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Topic started on 24-9-2009 @ 09:17 AM by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Military Muscle Will Show in G-20 City


www.military.com
September 24, 2009
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review

Traffic in Pittsburgh's skies, streets and rivers will have a different look today and Friday as military helicopters, gunboats and armored vehicles stand ready for emergencies related to the Group of 20 economic summit.

It's nothing to panic over, Mayor Luke Ravenstahl said.

"We don't want people to overreact. Don't be alarmed, because it's just part of the overall public safety effort," he said.

The use of Chinook transport helicopters and armored Humvees is routine for an event of this stature, according to retired Army Gen. W
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reply posted on 24-9-2009 @ 09:22 AM by ProtoplasmicTraveler

"It's pretty smart to have that type of equipment ready in case something happens," Pagonis said.

The Chinook helicopter is a "versatile piece of equipment" that could be used for security, evacuation or medical transport purposes, Pagonis said. The helicopter can carry a crew of three and up to 33 passengers and lift a small vehicle or cargo container weighing about 19,000 pounds, according to the Army Web site.

"If there's a place for them to land, they can pick up people pretty fast," Pagonis said. "If there's a demonstration and the National Guard needs to capture and segregate the leaders from the rest of the group, they could remove them from the area quickly."



Well it’s nice to know all that urban combat in Iraq has paid off! Nothing like practice to make perfect the quick military dissection of a ‘demonstration’ even if it does happen to be constitutional to demonstrate here in America, but I digress, as clearly we are lucky that it doesn’t require just mindless blunt force trauma to get to the leaders by bludgeoning everyone in sight like baby seals as the British Police did in London at the recent G-20 there!

We can just go in and surgically remove constitutional demonstration leaders!

I wonder if they are going to use Tomahawk Missiles and Laser Guided Smart Bombs too?

We are so lucky! We clearly have the best Government money can buy here in the United States! Now if only we knew who owns it! Clearly it’s not the people.


reply posted on 24-9-2009 @ 09:28 AM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Smaller than the Chinook, Black Hawk utility helicopters can transport about a dozen troops and carry smaller cargo loads. Black Hawks, seen in the skies above Pittsburgh this week, are used for electronic warfare and aeromedical evacuations, according to the Army.

In an emergency that would require helicopter evacuations of the world leaders attending the summit, the armored Apache attack helicopters could escort the Chinook, Pagonis said.

The heavily armored Humvees, he said, are formidable pieces of equipment with "great deterrence capabilities." Just the sight of a Humvee with a crew of Soldiers in battle dress uniforms and helmets is intimidating, he said. The vehicles are 15 feet long, more than 7 feet wide and weigh 5,900 pounds.



Wow, according to these rosy news accounts I bet the good people of Pittsburgh have never slept so well being comforted by the knowledge that at last after hundreds of years of their public being ‘unsafe’ the military has finally moved in to properly secure them in person!

Oh wait, that’s to secure the leaders in their person. I guess if you are just an average denizen of the city who has chosen to make it your home that well you still have to get by with out all these aides of being rescued from a grimace or shout with a Black Hawk or Cobra Helicopter.

But as the article points out with Military Humvees roaming the streets designed for intimidation the not so encouraged constitutional right to assemble to peaceably protest where shouting and taunting might occur will not instead be an exercise of ‘Run Forest run!” for the protestors.


reply posted on 24-9-2009 @ 09:31 AM by marg6043
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


Exactly, this show of power is not for the safety of the people in the city, they should protest the fact that at the expenses of tax payer money the city is targeting the residents as the enemy.

I am so sad of what our nation has become because we have allow this to happen.


reply posted on 24-9-2009 @ 09:33 AM by marg6043
reply to post by pieman


A star for you my friend, but sadly the crocks are protecting their masters.

The population is the enemy because in America is still people like us that doesn't bend to the NWO.



[edit on 24-9-2009 by marg6043]


reply posted on 24-9-2009 @ 09:38 AM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


Exactly, this show of power is not for the safety of the people in the city, they should protest the fact that at the expenses of tax payer money the city is targeting the residents as the enemy.

I am so sad of what our nation has become because we have allow this to happen.





It's hard to believe Marge and don't you know the government will for the large part pass it off as saying that the city itself represents an 'attractive target' to terrorists with so many important world leaders in town.

All they ever have to do to convince half of the people of the nation there is nothing sinister or untoward is to evoke the 'terrorist boogeyman' as justification as to why it's for our own 'safety' to live under the military jackboot!

It's shameless isn't it?


reply posted on 24-9-2009 @ 09:45 AM by Kram09
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


So i take it there are going to be people protesting, or at least trying?

I wonder what scenes we'll see?

It was bad in the UK for the G8.


reply posted on 24-9-2009 @ 09:55 AM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Originally posted by Kram09
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


So i take it there are going to be people protesting, or at least trying?

I wonder what scenes we'll see?

It was bad in the UK for the G8.


From what I understand about 95% of the permitts requested to protest were granted. Some environmentalists were arrested yesterday for posing a 'danger' in their protests which evidently included dangling people off of at least one bridge!

PITTSBURGH, Pennsylvania (CNN) -- In what appeared to be the most visible demonstration yet of this week's G-20 summit, four people attached to a massive banner dangled from a Pittsburgh bridge Wednesday to protest the global economic meeting.

The banner hung from the West End Bridge over the Ohio River and read like a road sign: "Danger: Climate Destruction Ahead. Reduce CO2 Emissions Now."

Greenpeace, the environmental activist group, claimed responsibility for the stunt. On its Web site, the group said it wanted to send a message to G-20 leaders with the nearly 80-by-30-foot sign, calling for more attention to the issue of global climate change.



So there definately will be protests and already have been in the lead up to the summitt, time will tell what the 'excessive' display of military force does to curb protests or possibly further enflame them.

Thanks for posting.


reply posted on 24-9-2009 @ 09:57 AM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by Maxmars


What's really kind of funny is the fact that one could say there are probably at least 20 or so "terrorist" along with their respective entourages there. That they are planning distinctly non-American initiatives and policies which will cause suffering and harm to others, all based on their ideologies. And evidently the tools of violence are part of their arsenal.


The reality is that these leaders are the terrorists. Terror is a political tool to strike fear and terror in citizens for political reasons. The War on Terror has been waged as a War for Terror and we the citizens are the target of that Terror and the agressors are our own governments!



reply posted on 24-9-2009 @ 10:04 AM by Kram09
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler


So a permit is needed to protest?

Interesting?

Is that usually how it is, or do you have to get a permit just because it's the G20.

I suppose they just pick and choose who gets a permit then?


reply posted on 24-9-2009 @ 10:12 AM by ProtoplasmicTraveler
reply to post by Kram09


Most municipalities require you file for and be granted a permit to protest.

They are almost always granted in most cities, and is a way of informing the local police that a protest will be occuring, where, for what purpose and who is in charge and organized it so the police can 'protect' the protesters peaceable right to protest.

For instance here in Miami where I live most recently permits were applied and granted to each side in the Operation Cast Lead, Israeli military action against Gaza.

Each camp would be given permission to use opposing sides of the street with the police standing in the middle to make sure words don't turn in to violence.

Who ever wants to protest technically has a right to be protected from those with opposing views and in part that's what the permit process is normally designed to do to alert authorities so that they can be on hand and prepared if neseccary to protect the right to protest from those who might be offended to the message.

However in this case it is the leaders themselves that are opposed to the protests as opposed to just other citizens with differing views.
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