Man from Texas takes pictures of Unexplainable Light Phenomena

Did anyone see an explosion of threads here on ATS with so-called rods, together with the appearance here of the user "Johnbro"? I wonder what documentary regarding rods will be released soon, so it needs some publicity. Or..ATS learned me one thing: to be paranoic


well... see my bugs:

Originally posted by depthoffield
I really need to make again a copy and paste action, from another thread

Here it is:

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BUGS or BIRDS. USSUALLY BUGS

...and technical phenomenons regarding capturing images.
...and people not knowing those technical stuff.


Bugs filmed during the day.
Bugs can appear long and short.
Bugs can appear white or black. (depending on ilumination and bacground brightness)
Bugs can appear colored or translucid.
Bugs can appear moving straight or doing fast turns.
Bugs are a very likely occurence. Just 2 holidays not hunting them and i have already a big collection.

I don't like bugs.

But here they are:

r1
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/a4e2b66bfd6a.jpg[/atsimg]

r4
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/eb663e9ca587.jpg[/atsimg]

r9
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/97f8c82fac9f.jpg[/atsimg]

r14
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/c59261a28618.jpg[/atsimg]

r17
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/1a70784aad6a.jpg[/atsimg]

r21
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/2a6b16ff1eb3.jpg[/atsimg]



All of these frames extracted from this movie:

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More BUGS:

r2
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/064369a4a5d3.jpg[/atsimg]

r3
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/de78c9b11dcc.jpg[/atsimg]


r5
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f3bb19eb67f3.jpg[/atsimg]

and it's animation:

r18
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/1b3b6b4283f4.gif[/atsimg]


r6
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5070bf91e75d.jpg[/atsimg]
and from another part of the same shot:
r22
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/9ceab39254ad.jpg[/atsimg]



r7
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/caefca8b55a7.jpg[/atsimg]

and the corresponding animation:
r13
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/95f0b1a42460.gif[/atsimg]



r8
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b6653726a682.gif[/atsimg]

r10
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/cbe6a0a16d64.jpg[/atsimg]

r11
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/6cf79cffbab2.gif[/atsimg]

r12
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/d9c4e171a411.gif[/atsimg]

r23
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3f7c03f36900.jpg[/atsimg]

and the animation here:
r15
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5f327da89217.gif[/atsimg]




r16
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f9abc6232f80.jpg[/atsimg]
and the animation:
r20
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/a0e5b96c628a.gif[/atsimg]



r19
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/1e43a4b22cee.jpg[/atsimg]


r24
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/e91ea0cc9772.gif[/atsimg]


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More bugs or birds?

Here is my collection:

www.freewebs.com...
www.freewebs.com...
www.freewebs.com...
www.freewebs.com...

(later edit: now i see i have some broken links in my free site... ussually links to the original pictures, which where too big for my primary used picture sharing site, imageshack.us, and therefore posted at picfu.com, which..lost them

)



Damn those BUGS. It really can puzzle your brain...


p.s. all the animations are slowned down at half or third of real speed, because using GIF format.


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Originally posted by Skeptical Ed

Originally posted by Arbitrageur

Originally posted by Skeptical Ed
I have a ton of footage of rods which I taped off TV and every example is of distant objects not near the camera lens or inside the camera!

How do you know they are distant? I don't think you have any idea how far away an object in the sky is with no reference points.

That video link you posted sure looks like a bird to me, it just wasn't filmed with a high speed camera.

There is not only something wrong with your mind but your eyes as well. You speak without knowledge.

So I ask you how you know the objects are distant and you reply with an ad hominem attack? That does little to support your position.

Here's a challenge for you, show me a rod video made with a high speed camera running at 1000 frames per second, like the video I posted above. The rods will be revealed as something other than rods when recorded with a high speed camera, just as that video shows. If you have a 1000 fps video of a rod, then please show it. If you don't, then I suggest you re-watch the MonsterQuest video again so you can understand why you need video from a high speed camera to convince anyone rods are anything other than birds, bats or bugs.

Originally posted by Blaine91555
I know I'm piling on but it has been common knowledge that these are insects, mainly moths. The people who take these photo's are hoaxers. They lie to get attention I suppose. He probably got the idea from another hoaxer on the Internet. Just look up "Rods".

Either that or they are really really thick

Rods are old news.....wouldve been more convincing if he just made a CGI

On History Channel they proved this "rods" are not what they seem to be. They used a regular camera and one of those 1000 frames per second cameras. And when a "rod" appeared flying in front of the regular camera, you could see an insect on the special camera.

PROVEN: They are regular insects flying or even birds, but their movement can't be recorded properly by regular cameras because they move too fast.

YOUDEBUNK link

RODS DO NOT EXIST. SEE THE VIDEO AND BELIEVE IT!

reply to post by depthoffield


Awesome post. Some great examples there.

Edit: Starred, whatever that does.

[edit on 24-9-2009 by EsSeeEye]

Originally posted by Arbitrageur
So I ask you how you know the objects are distant and you reply with an ad hominem attack? That does little to support your position.

You said: "I don't think you have any idea how far away an object in the sky is with no reference points." You're judging my mental capacity; not kosher.

You said: "That video link you posted sure looks like a bird to me, it just wasn't filmed with a high speed camera." You positioned yourself as knowledgeable about the equipment used, which you are not. FYI, a professional ENG videotaped the rod and he didn't use a consumer-grade camcorder.

Originally posted by Skeptical Ed
You said: "That video link you posted sure looks like a bird to me, it just wasn't filmed with a high speed camera." You positioned yourself as knowledgeable about the equipment used, which you are not. FYI, a professional ENG videotaped the rod and he didn't use a consumer-grade camcorder.

OK then enlighten me, how many frames per second was the video shot at?

Just because the camera isn't consumer grade doesn't make it a high speed camera by the way, professional grade TV cameras can record rods too. I may not know the exact model of equipment used, but I am knowledgeable in recognizing artifacts related to moving objects filmed with video cameras at normal shutter speeds, so I based my comment on that knowledge and experience. For example I can also tell if somebody posts a video of a fuzzy donut shaped object floating by, they probably used a reflector style telephoto lens even without them telling me they used a reflector telephoto lens. So you don't always need to have equipment details to make observations about the video produced.

And what about my challenge to produce a rod video filmed with a high speed camera running at 1000 frames per second? Have you got one?

Did you watch the monster quest video?

Thanks for the more civil reply this time by the way, there's no need for ad hominem attacks.


[edit on 25-9-2009 by Arbitrageur]

Originally posted by Arbitrageur

Originally posted by Skeptical Ed
You said: "That video link you posted sure looks like a bird to me, it just wasn't filmed with a high speed camera." You positioned yourself as knowledgeable about the equipment used, which you are not. FYI, a professional ENG videotaped the rod and he didn't use a consumer-grade camcorder.

OK then enlighten me, how many frames per second was the video shot at?

Just because the camera isn't consumer grade doesn't make it a high speed camera by the way, professional grade TV cameras can record rods too. I may not know the exact model of equipment used, but I am knowledgeable in recognizing artifacts related to moving objects filmed with video cameras at normal shutter speeds, so I based my comment on that knowledge and experience.

And what about my challenge to produce a rod video filmed with a high speed camera running at 1000 frames per second? Have you got one?

Did you watch the monster quest video?

Thanks for the more civil reply this time by the way, there's no need for ad hominem attacks.

Don't waste your time with little Ed there

He has a thing for instigating. For evidence of that just look through his posts. You're better off ignoring the person. All he'll do is come back and nitpick your post to death.

He's just trying to get a rise out of you. Don't fall for it.

reply to post by nightmare_david


Thanks for the advice.

I asked if he watched the monster quest video, because if he's seen that and he's still not convinced he needs a high speed camera, then I agree there's not much point in trying to debate the subject further, it should be pretty obvious.

Oh, god here we go again.

Rods are Camera Artifacts of known flying creatures - that can include both birds, bats insects etc.

The artifact or illusion is basically a multiple exposures in one frame of video.

The monster quest video pretty much explains it all.

End of story.

[edit on 25-9-2009 by verylowfrequency]