Over half of the people at the UN walked out during Ahmadinejad's speech, page 4
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reply posted on 24-9-2009 @ 02:01 PM by MikeNice81
Originally posted by nonconform
I think that people walking out is a disgrace to all the people of countries who have elected them.After listening to his speech i think he has some valid points,although i wish he would stop involving religion with everything he says.
If your memorys arent that short,you will remember the media forever building saddam and iraq to be our enemy with wmd.GUESS WHAT its happening again,a funny little pattern,to whip up hatred so when we go into IRAN to liberate them from the dictator,that the public will agree that we are doing the right thing.Does cheap oil ring a bell,once hes removed we strike up a deal with the new goverment that we install that give us cheap oil cos we liberated them.
YOU MUST SEE THE SIMILARITIES


What ever happen to the good old days. It use to be as simple as sending a sniper to do the work. I guess the rich can't make enough money that way,

Seriously though, does anyone disagree with statements like these?

We have all seen that how the inequitable economic structures controlled by certain political interests have been used to plunder national wealth of countries for the benefit of a group of corrupt business giants. The present structures are incapable of reforming the present situation.

The political and economic structures created following the World War II that was based on intentions to dominate the world failed to promote justice and lasting security.


Regrettably, in the current international relations, selfishness and insatiable greed have taken the place of such humanitarian concepts as love, sacrifice, dignity, and justice.


Lies have taken the place of honesty; hypocrisy has replaced integrity and selfishness has taken the place of sacrifice. Deception in interactions is called foresight and statesmanship; looting the wealth of other nations is called development efforts; occupation is introduced as a gift towards promotion of freedom and democracy, and defenseless nations are subjected to repression in the name of defending human rights.


I don't agree with the man on his definition of equality and freedom. I do think that we should be engaging him looking for a middle ground that adds stability to the region.

I did disagree with this part however. . .

Reforming the current economic structures and setting up a new international economic order. . .


There was more to the statement. I just really disagreed with this part. Every country should handle its own financial order/matters and get out of each other's business. Hard or impossible to achieve these days though.

I felt this next part was a bit disingenuous. His idea of cultural respect seems not to extend to christians and others. I say that simply because he keeps mention the return of the great Iman and "the one true god." Plus the fact that they murder gays and women who chose to date without a chaperone.

Reforming cultural structures , respect for diverse customs and traditions of all nations, fostering moral values and spirituality aimed at institution of family as the backbone of all human societies;


He made some good points. He had a few bits that felt like rhetoric for rhetoric's sake. However, I didn't see anything that offended me. I also didn't see anything "crazy." Like another poster though I kind of felt like I was being asked to chose which NWO I want. One under Islamic law or unchecked greed and disregard for the "non elites."


reply posted on 24-9-2009 @ 03:42 PM by guardstarr
Originally posted by IAF101
reply to
post by Cosmic4life



Leaving was the most dignified response to something entirely vulgar and the totally ponderous rhetoric. An "honest" debate would have been a volley of boots hurled to the dais till he either ran away or was knocked unconscious.


And this is how according to you the worlds problems get solved? You seem to be very full of anger and have a dangerous way to keep the peace. Leaving was very undignified. It showed a complete lack of tolerance and dedication to solving the worlds problems. I guess his words against capitalism must have hit pretty close to the mark to get them all riled up like that huh?

*If the worlds problems were solved by throwing shoes, the world would be barefoot. -This has been a public service announcement from Guardstarr



reply posted on 24-9-2009 @ 05:30 PM by jsobecky
reply to post by wazthewazzock



and i think i found plenty of love 200 years ago when thousands of africans were made as slaves, beaten, whipped, raped and killed in exchange of making America the richest country in the world with not having to pay the workers.

or the time when over 100,000 innocent civilians were killed in a single war.

or how about the only country to ever drop the worlds most deadliest weapon, yet still preach about not having them.

I can say the same to you my friend.


You're talking about ancient history and I'm pointing out the policies of Iran TODAY. Big difference.

People walked out and why?
They didnt like what they heard,
they already have impressions on what he is;
a terrorist, a mad man, a dictator.


And he is a mad man. Based upon his actions TODAY.

If you sit and listen to his ravings, then you are giving tacit approval to the murders he commits in Iran.


reply posted on 24-9-2009 @ 05:34 PM by jsobecky
reply to post by MikeNice81



Regrettably, in the current international relations, selfishness and insatiable greed have taken the place of such humanitarian concepts as love, sacrifice, dignity, and justice.


As I look at the current state of affairs in Iran, where homosexuals are hung from lightposts in the city square, and young girls are stoned to death, I wonder where this wacko gets off talking about 'humanitarian concepts as love, sacrifice, dignity, and justice'.

Or did he think we would just conveniently forget about those atrocities just because he is speaking in front of the UN?


reply posted on 24-9-2009 @ 05:34 PM by sos37
Do you really expect the representative leader of Iran to come out to the UN council spewing obvious venom in a speech? To do so would be to turn the rest of the world against them! Think about it, people - right now Iran is trying to calm people's nerves as they continue their nuclear ambitions, whatever those might be.

Hitler's speeches during his rise to power were also soothing and golden to the ears of the Germans. They said the man had a silver toungue. For evidence of what Iran really stands for, you only need to look at how they treat their citizens:

* Those who protested the recent election and called for investigations were jailed and beaten; some were killed outright. An Iranian cleric ordered the execution of protestors:

Iran Cleric: Execute Election Protesters
www.cbsnews.com...

Have we forgotten the viral video of the Iranian woman (Neda) shot while walking with her music instructor by Iranian police during the election protests?

Death video Iranian woman 'shot by militia': fiance
www.google.com...

Fiance tells of Neda's last moments - 23 Jun 09
www.youtube.com...

* As another poster pointed out, homosexuals are killed. There is no tolerance of freedom of choice in that country when it violates the edicts of the mainstream religion. Either you do what is expected of you by God or you die.

Iran Executes Two Homosexual Boys
www.beirut.indymedia.org...

Iran: Reports Of Gays Being Executed Raise Concern
www.rferl.org...

* Convicted of a criminal act in Iran? You die. Here are two young men executed publicly after being convicted of rape:

Iran: Public execution for the teenagers convicted of rape
www.jihadwatch.org...

* Countries that oppose Iran are considered evil; again, there is no room and no appreciation for differences.

What does this tell you all - that Iran wants to be a team player with the rest of the world???? Wake up guys!!! Those leaders had every right to get up and walk out on whatever that man said because he represents the Mullahs, not the people of Iran.

If you were defending this man, his speech as not sounding anything like Hitler's, then you have a serious problem. You are reading what Iran wants you to read. You are not remembering how they treat their own. You are falling for the PROPAGANDA. And you should be ashamed of yourselves if you defended this horrible man.


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reply posted on 24-9-2009 @ 06:35 PM by sickofitall2012
reply to post by sos37



I agree with you completely!!! Great post!

Here are some more of his thoughts....

"Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was speaking to his own nation’s youth, the next generation. He said what his generation has always believed, that is, that Jews must be killed.

He stated that the state of Israel, founded on May 14, 1948, must be "wiped off the map." In other words, all Jews must be slain. That is the typical degradation given to Jews by Muslims. Jews are referred to as "Jew-pigs and descendants of monkeys."

"Iran’s President said that "anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation’s fury. . ." "

www.canadafreepress.com...

"Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Thursday the solution to the Middle East crisis is to destroy Israel"
www.washingtonpost.com...
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