Space Battles In Earth Orbit!

Can't believe I sifted this thread for a space battle and all I get is a plug for night vision goggles?
If anyone has ever seen anything interesting with NV-Let alone a space battle!-Please post!
Also who starts a thread and does not even give the time of day to contribute to the discussion? I'm not impressed.

I believe the music from Sassy's video is from the soundtrack to the film Sunshine (2007).

As for Mr. Grimsley's video(s), I really don't see what amounts to a space battle. Perhaps there are some anomalous shapes floating around but I don't see how they could be called battling ET craft or even a UFO in the traditional sense.


reply to post by tcbtom

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I was pretty skeptical of Ed's claims when I first heard them, but I decided to take him up on his offer to look for myself.

I did so on two separate nights, several months apart and WOW-- I definitely saw what I believe to have been some sort of craft. Not just one or two, but at least a dozen. I also saw moths, bats, birds and satellites, but none of those crossed from one horizon to the other in seconds, made right angle turns, etc. It is really remarkable when you see it for yourself. I would not believe from the videos either, since there is never any context outside the frame of the goggles so it's impossible to really tell relative distances etc. But when you are looking up at the whole sky and then squinting through the goggles and suddenly you see these things, there is almost zero doubt that they are some kind of craft.

I never saw any "battles," and I can't imagine how you could tell the shape of anything really through the NV (ie "deltas, "ovals," etc). I don't personally subscribe to any particular theories of who was operating them, allies/enemies, space battles or anything else. In my opinion that is all speculation.

But I know I saw some really strange and remarkable things. I do not believe they were satellites, bugs, venus or any other conventional objects. Many others have seen them too.

If you haven't actually looked through the NV equipment for yourself then really, you are talking out of your ass. It's easy to see some grainy video out of context on the web, hear some wild rambling explanation of it, and conclude that the whole thing is BS. Go ahead and feel smug and proud of your superior brain.

I really didn't expect to see anything but bugs when I looked through those goggles. I was pretty amazed at what I did see, although I cannot say what it was other than my VERY strong impression was of something very high altitude, mechanical, and intelligently guided.

reply to post by vimanaboy

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Could you please tells us why you believe you were seeing intelligent vehicles?
What did they do to make you come to this conclusion? Do you think it would be possible to see the same thing with a telescope?

Just a gut feeling that I was looking at "vehicles." Like I said, I saw several trace the arc of the sky from one end to the other in seconds (much faster than satellites, slower and longer than shooting stars), and several make very sharp turns. They appear to be much higher than the birds, insects, etc, have much less organic flight patterns, and a much sharper and brighter appearance (bugs and birds are more blurry and diffuse looking, and you usually figure out what you are seeing pretty quickly)

I doubt you would see them with a telescope simply because people would already be seeing and reporting them much more often. With the NV you can go out on just about any night and see strange things.

I realize that makes something more mundane a more likely explanation and I am actually quite open to a more conventional explanation than vehicles, but not from someone who hasn't directly observed it for themselves.



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If they are having battles above us, why cant we see it???

reply to post by cellardoor1976

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You can't see it because it doesn't happen Another contender for the UFO Hall of Shame.

So if an alien builds a spacecraft, it might be made of something that is very durable, right? so if there are really BATTLES goin on, why no ships hittin the ground. What,... they are ALL burnin up on entry, not possible.And you never see an escort goin up with the space shuttle.or a gunner on board.

Dude cmon hook it up, please post a video of what you see through the goggles.

You will be a hero to many

reply to post by SkepticOverlord

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Uh-huh....

This would all be very impressive if this guy were to actually hook up some of these night vision viewers to a digital video recorder, and actually show video of some real-life Klingons shooting it out in orbit or something.

Until you can provide proof beyond just claiming you saw hundreds of spaceships, all you get from me is a barely stifled yawn and suggestions of reserving a room at your nearby hospital's mental health wing.

Now that's a real example of healthy thinking. The rest who thinks differently, MARCH !!! Straight to a mental institution. We don't deserve to be among the realistic and very very down to earth people.

C'mon people!
Are you trying to say that IF he had nightvision videos of a war with spaceships fighting above our heads you would NOT call them FAKE VIDEOS?

You wont believe sh*t unless its with your own eyes. THATS A FACT! So look up in the sky with your own eyes people (or whatever you are?)!

"oh, no.. thats silly... we are the only species with a brain in the entire universe. In fact its only on this planet in the entire universe bacteria and water exists. Everything else is BS!"...

Well said. In human psychology is a condition or a pattern called consensus blindness. Is a phenomena which can almost be called a defining characteristic of the human race. Means that people do not see what is in front of them because they believe they should not. And that's simple. Goes by the model created long ago. Is the same pattern as in political spinning which in its own is the art of constructing a consensus reality around events by the spinner. It takes advantage of the fact that humans cannot interpret events on their own but require a context; the spinner supplies the context. And unfortunately this excessive timidity of humanity is what enables our species to be routinely manipulated. We just live in a vast collective dream. And that's the reason why 'heretics' and original thinkers are always persecuted, because they threaten the dream. As far as this concept goes, collectively we're told and taught that we're alone. Chances for a civilization to have evolved in another planet within or out our solar system are so remote that even mentioning is not worth it. This concept is buried so bad in our subconscious that is very hard to by pass it. I remember while reading The Book Of Dulce from Branton, one of the JPL's scientists looking at a clear picture of a UFO (most likely those that aren't seen by the public) sees it and even though the view was right in front of his eyes, subconsciously he wasn't prepared to accept the reality. Goes on by saying that in order for him to believe, needs more proof And that fits the bill. Who doesn't want to believe, who is is denial, is going to be like that no matter what. For a lot more of a time we're gonna see the things the way we are and not the way they are.

reply to post by SkepticOverlord

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HADES

reply to post by Atlantican

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Actually you can get 1st gen night vision all day (no pun intended) for $150 and sometimes a little less.

Pazz

Exactly. I wouldn't either. There is no "proof" in a posting about this to ATS, only a suggestion that maybe you should get off your ass and look for yourself if you want to qualify to have an opinion about it that's actually worth anything.

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You guys need to keep in mind that Phillip Corso a top Pentagon official says in his book " The Day After Roswell" that the Star Wars (SDI) system was put in place to fight hostile ET's and this sort of thing has been going on for years. Notice that Star Wars was a apt nickname for this system because in the movie that's what took place - one race using lasers to combat another races ships. It is a fact that we have atomic/nuclear powered satellites in orbit with heavy laser capabilities. A study of world history reveals the presence of aliens on earth and coming to earth for countless centuries now. This is recorded in some way in almost every culture dating back many thousands of years.

Two good starting points for research include Secret Space volumes 1 and 2 as found on Google Video. You may not believe everything you see in those videos but there is enough provable information to cast doubt on what the government says is really going on in orbit around this planet.

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I just came from Ed's website and I find the raw footage there interesting. I do not however see anything that looks like the UFO above in nightvision/inferred UFO 002 video ( triangular shape craft) After watching the nightvision/inferred UFO 002 video again I realized where I had seen such a craft before. It was a documentary on the Phoenix Lights and the large black triangular shaped craft thousands of people in Phoenix saw. There was shown U.S Government footage of a large triangular shaped craft that was made by us - A US Air force craft. At night it had a triangular shaped pattern of lights just like the craft in Ed's video.

Perhaps someone can help me find pictures of the craft in question.

After looking at Ed's video again I realized that this craft was moving very slow in comparison to other UFO's seen in other raw footage on his site and no other UFO in Ed' footage resembles this craft. No other footage in Ed's site seems to have a UFO so close to us and so clear. I think it's possible this triangular shaped craft is ours and not a UFO.

Added Later - [ The craft I was thinking of is the TR-3B. Although it's light pattern is close it is not an exact match. lmgtfy.com...
I also find this interesting about the TR-3b ( remember Phillip Corso said in the book The Day After Roswell that the SDI program was made to fight ET's in space.. well the TR-3B comes in part from SDI funds.. Interesting!! See this:
" According to Fouche, the development of the TR-3B began in 1982 and was part of 'Project Aurora'. The aim of 'Aurora' is to build and test advanced aerospace vehicles including the TR-3B, the triangular-shaped nuclear-powered aerospace platform. Apparently around 35% of the US Government's SDI (Strategic Defence Initiative) funds have been siphoned off to help finance it. " Found here, scroll halfway down the page: www.ufos-aliens.co.uk... ]

Also in Ed's raw footage it is very hard to decern the UFO's he is looking at without a firm understanding of what the rest of the things look like when viewing them through a night vision scope. For instance, what do airplanes, orbiting satellites, stars, meteors and other known object look like so that you can tell which ones are the UFO's? There is no legend of these things to compare to when viewing Ed's footage.

This is something Ed should correct on his website so we can all understand what he is seeing a little bit better.

I believe there IS something going on up there because of what I have read from other sources.. but I am not clear that what Ed is showing us is IT.

Can someone Please help me understand these things ?

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Just hold a camera to the lens of a night vision scope. Works for me.