Originally posted by ecoparity
Aiming for a 6th grade audience is considered the "rule" with most publications and press.

It certainly is not a rule that applies here where the discussion spans far above a grade six technical level and the participants are expecting more than the main stream answers.

If there are posts that are more technical than some would like, then they can skim past them. For those who want to know...bonus.

Originally posted by dainoyfb
Ok, now that your finished insulting the ATS crowd,

Originally posted by ecoparity
I didn't write a single word accusing ATS of being less technical or literate than the rest of the World so you're completely out of line with that one.

Stating that you should communicate with people on ATS at a grade six level isn't insulting?

Originally posted by ecoparity
Military night vision gear will always be at least one generation above the consumer models and are controlled a/f/a who can buy them and where they can be exported.

Not all military night vision gear can be purchased by civilians. There are quite a few devices limited to mil and LE sales only. Most "standard issue" gear will remain "standard issue" for several years by which time a civilian version will usually be on the market.

Yes, but my point was and is that the military is using Gen3 and mil spec Gen3 is available to the public. This is important to know because it is what Ed is using and what people should be seeking if they intend to duplicate his capabilities.

Originally posted by ecoparity
If your goal was to educate people who are not familiar with the technology you failed. If they don't understand the tech they aren't going to understand a bunch of technical terms which are specific to that technology.

Aren't they? I guess it depends on how it is explained. "Image intensifier" is the standard term used to describe the technology so I hope somebody lets them know so they can ask for the proper product. Its like the difference between CDrom and Blue Ray. You kinda wanna know what your buying.

So are you saying that the alternative is to lie to them so they are completely misinformed and have to take an even further path toward understanding how the technology works? How is "tube" any less understandable than "chip" anyway? You outright deceived them and you're saying I failed? Is there a light sensitive little mouse in there with a bunch of Crayons too?

Originally posted by ecoparity
Since you're the expert I'll bow out of this and leave you to it.

Yes, I am an expert. There are not a lot of people that have deigned these types of systems and truly know fact from myth about how they work and what their capabilities are. Unfortunately I find a lot of misleading information posted by a few people who say what they think they know instead of confirming it from credible sources first. Its a lot of work to clean the mess up.


At any rate, Ed uses Gen3 PVS7 goggles. They are image intensifier based. If you purchase goggles made by the same companies that supply the military (such as ITT) they will not lie about the generation and you will end up with great quality stuff. Even ITT gen2 units will blow your socks off and even outperform most commercially designed Gen3 units. Sometimes vendors have non mil spec units which have small artifacts in the tube that fails them for service. The price is much lower on these units and the artifacts are usually in the form of one or two little dark spots in the view that are not really a problem. With today's economy I wouldn't be surprised if you could find a bunch of second hand units getting dumped for cheap by private owners who are trying to change their toys into much needed cash.

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It would be nice if someone recorded the ET battles. There must be night vision video cameras on the market. Anyone own one?

Sorry mods. Its 3am; had a few toddies.

I love this guy. He has a pair of $4000.00 military grade binocs! Wish I could afford that, I'd be doing it.
I heard him on the Kevin Smith Show when he first started a lot of this. Then, George Noory got to look through them, and he was amazed. I have actually seen this happen without them. And so has a friend of mine. Me in Oregon and her in Missouri. I guess they are getting a little out of the atmosphere that they are hiding in. And no, it wasn't a shooting star!
I was sitting out on my porch, checkin out the sky and I saw this lighted object, going pretty fast and then I looked just east of it, and blam, big sparklies and the other disappeared like really fast. And my friend in Missouri, said she heard something like exploding in the sky, and she looked up and saw something falling apart right after that. And no, that wasn't a star or meteor shower. I do know the difference and so does she. Just putting that in there before somebody starts hollerin at me!

Originally posted by The cult of Osiris
It would be nice if someone recorded the ET battles. There must be night vision video cameras on the market. Anyone own one?

I've been looking with mine quite a bit since Ed came on the scene this year but I haven't seen anything worth pressing the record button for though.

You are correct. Thanks for providing more specific info. Though I don't see how that is being a jerk.

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[edit on 24-9-2009 by dainoyfb]

earth seems to have an infestation of
reptilian nature.
they must be routed
so that people can drop the scales from their eyes.
....don't panic
everything is going to be o.k
so says radarloveguy

wonder if you can get night vision contact lenses.......
would solve a few things, methinks.

Hi all.

iv never posted anything rubbishing anyones claims on here as i like to keep an open mind.

here it comes...however..

i work for a company that deals with laser based technology for the construction industry, including light enhancing and "night vision" equipment for use in under ground surveying.

i find it very hard to believe that Ed can see anything in space using them as military grade night vision equipment has a limited range that is no where near the edge of space.

this is due to the way they work. Faint light that the human eye cannot pick up is radiated by the googles (in the same way a laser bean is radiated to make it visible) and projected. if the "goggles" could see that far they would be rendered useless on earth as they would detect the visible light from every star and the image would "white out".

What Ed is most likely seeing is a reflection of light from the fluid on his eyes. Old models of night vision suffered from this reflective defect until a company called Leica developed a filter lens in the late 90s. As the light reflects back it becomes weak enough to be radiated and so visible. as he moves his eyes, so does the fluid and will appear to be in the distance and moving.

Of coarse this is just a theory..but an very probable one.

Originally posted by ramfan
Hi all.

iv never posted anything rubbishing anyones claims on here as i like to keep an open mind.

here it comes...however..

i work for a company that deals with laser based technology for the construction industry, including light enhancing and "night vision" equipment for use in under ground surveying.

i find it very hard to believe that Ed can see anything in space using them as military grade night vision equipment has a limited range that is no where near the edge of space.

this is due to the way they work. Faint light that the human eye cannot pick up is radiated by the googles (in the same way a laser bean is radiated to make it visible) and projected. if the "goggles" could see that far they would be rendered useless on earth as they would detect the visible light from every star and the image would "white out".

What Ed is most likely seeing is a reflection of light from the fluid on his eyes. Old models of night vision suffered from this reflective defect until a company called Leica developed a filter lens in the late 90s. As the light reflects back it becomes weak enough to be radiated and so visible. as he moves his eyes, so does the fluid and will appear to be in the distance and moving.

Of coarse this is just a theory..but an very probable one.

Lights at night can be seen from a distance further than the normal daytime range.

Also, your theory doesn't explain how the objects get from Ed's eyeballs onto video.

Lights at night can be seen from a distance further than the normal daytime range.

Also, your theory doesn't explain how the objects get from Ed's eyeballs onto video.

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There is far too much light for the Goggles to work in the day or around alot of "man made" light so the range is limited to night vision.

The light passes through the lens as "strong" light and is ignored by the Diode processors. This is then reflected back as it hits his eyes or anything else reflective such as sweat beads and is radiated and becomes visable. The lens Leica developed has two main benefits. it focuses the light to be radiated as it enters the lens as well as disapating reflected light.


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That is both absolutely astounding, and aggravating!

I've got to get me a pair of those now.

I can't believe the government. For what would they be hiding all of this from us for? What do THEY want with the truth, and how is it damaging to them if we know?

The government wants us to think that we are powerless little pawns, and it's WORKING. People think that all these delusional responsibilities we have are the absolute most important thing in this reality. Folks aren't aware of the power they have as an individual!

There's no telling how much they keep from us. We might be able to levitate for crying out loud.

[edit on 9/24/2009 by Psycontagious]