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reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 11:38 AM by lpowell0627
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Anybody that thinks this will not apply to them (since they don't work in the medical field) should think twice.
The next group that it is going to be mandatory for --
School Children!
Keep in mind, they can do this because you still (technically) have a choice.
1. Employer requires it? Get a new job.
2. Schools require it? Home school or charter schools (some don't follow mandates for vaccinations)
This is how they get away with PASSIVELY enforcing it. One small segment of the population at a time....
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reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 11:41 AM by bigyin
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Really sorry to hear about this. I know the work involved to become a nurse. I did the training myself a few years ago and at the end decided it
wasn't the job for me. At one stage I was going to move to USA and do nursing there, but I didnt do that either. Glad I didnt now. One of my class
mates is moving from UK to USA today oddly enough. I'm not sure if she plans to do nursing there or not. Will ask her on Facebook.
If enough medical staff are against this you need to organise together and walk out. If more than 50 % walk out the system will crash about their ears
and they will have no option but to reconsider it.
I wish you luck.
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reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 11:44 AM by hikix
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my girlfriend just started a radiography program at a university. They are making her get 4 shots including the swine flu vaccine, or they will make
her leave the program. Nothing she can do about it, its insane.
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reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 11:48 AM by Chilled Zen
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This is the way they will force people to take the vaccine, threatening their Jobs.
Don't want the vaccine? OK your fired then.......
No need for "physically" forced vaccination, this is just another type of force.
Best thing to do would be to get as many medical professionals at the hospital to refuse it as possible.
Hope things work out OK.
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reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 11:58 AM by nydsdan
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I am a bit torn on the issue. Personally, I do not subscribe to the whole "the government is trying to kill us off with biowarfare" line. It just
does not make sense because all survivors (and there will still be millions) would dismantle the ranks of TPTB so fast if this vaccine were
malicious.
It is not the M.O. of TPTB.
If anything, the vaccines are just padding pockets of special people - maybe for favors later down the line.
Anyway, back to this mandatory vaccination for healthcare workers....
I fully expect mandatory vaccinations to healthcare workers. These are the very people that will be treating those with the flu, no?
How do you feel about mandatory vaccinations to measles, mumps, rubella, hepatitis and varicella?
Do you find it unconstitutional that a surgeon must scrub in before performing surgery? It is mandatory you know.
How would you feel if you went to the hospital after a truck accident and the attending physician infected you with the flu and because of that flu
you had complications which killed you?
Let's just postulate for a second here that the vaccine is being developed in good faith and actually may result in a lower chance of communicating
the virus... I know, crazy talk on ATS, but let's just go with this for a second:
If:
1. The vaccine can prevent the virus
2. The CDC is expecting a higher incidence of cases this year
3. The new strain is more communicable than traditional flu
4. Hospitals have the means to provide vaccinations to healthcare workers
and
5. Doctors are not vaccinated because of rumors and fear-mongering
The result would be that if the virus ended up spreading as expected, hospitals would close (low staff counts, increased communicability, increased
complications) and the death tolls would increase also leading to more deaths and complications in patients not even there for the flu.
Is it not their job to do whatever possible to mitigate the chances of the aforementioned scenario?
Now, I agree that they need to get their heads on straight and do a little better in informing the public here. There is a LOT of fear mongering on
the issue, and not enough EDUCATION being done on the part of health and human services.
HHS: Quit telling people how to sneeze and publish meaningful information on the current vaccination (including adjuvants and historical data)
ASAP!
Lack of real information regarding the vaccine to inform the public and mitigate fears is what is causing this whole mess. We as citizens are correct
to be concerned but the hospitals are stuck in a jam. They are supposed to do whatever possible to prevent a healthcare meltdown while the HHS and
vaccine makers are too busy trying to make money instead of inform the people.
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reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 11:59 AM by midniteracerx
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I suspect children and teachers will be next. Makes me feel better about being an unemployed teacher. My girlfriend is a teacher as well and there
hasn't been any mention of forced vaccinations....yet.
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reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 12:00 PM by ChemBreather
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Well, you guys living in the area should really post flyers all over the place, these people arent reading about this stuff.
They are watching MSM and think nothing off it !!!
You could save lives here people, get flyers up in the area, serious, stand up !!!
I live in Norway, kinda hard doing something over at Ny..
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reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 12:02 PM by Roadblockx
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Hey bro, I hate to hear of the situation that you and your wife have been put into. It is only the beginning and the "normal Jo's" are feeling it.
It won't be long before those that supply the hospitals will be forced to get the shot, then those that support those that supply the hospitals and
before you know it, they have found a way to get everyone involved.
I'm not a lawyer or judge and didn't stay at a holiday inn express last night, but according to
this site, you may be able to file a temporary injuction against your
employer regarding this shot. It will more then likely mean your wife's job but if enough people file this until the court can hear the case, it may
set a precedence for others! Way to fight the machine.
Hopefully this is a wake-up to those that have been in "ostrich mode".
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reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 12:06 PM by Revealation
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reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 12:07 PM by bigyin
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Health Care professionals along with other professionals having been getting the flu and the cold and other illnesses since time began. They don't
need forced vacinations to do their job. If they get sick they stay at home till it clears and then they go back to work. Thats how its always been.
Something has changed and it stinks.
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reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 12:09 PM by Dark Ghost
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That really is frightening. Who would have thought they would go through these lengths to ensure people get the vaccine? Scary where this may lead
to...
Not sure if anyone has mentioned it or not, but besides standing up to your superiors, or taking legal action...find out what substances are present
in the vaccine and get a trusted doctor to write a note saying you are allergic to one of the substances. Make sure you and your doctor have
considered all the possible loopholes they will try and find. Not sure if this will work, but worth a try if your other options fail. Good Luck.
[edit on 23/9/2009 by Dark Ghost]
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reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 12:11 PM by nydsdan
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Oh, and mandatory immunizations of healthcare workers (including those that do not work directly with patients) is not exactly new. I had to prove up
to date vaccinations for a whole gamut of stuff when I was hired for a large medical center back in the late 1990s.
And this document outlines guidelines as of 1997:
CDC: Immunization of Health-Care Workers: Recommendations of the Advisory Committee on
Immunization Practices (ACIP) and the Hospital Infection Control Practices Advisory Committee (HICPAC)
Did anybody think that 'conspiracy theorists' may be on to something with regards to TPTB so they manufactured this swine flu with questionable
vaccine only to cause this outrage and resistance? Then the flu will come around, people that are not vaccinated will get it, it will cause closures
and complications and will be worse than if people just got vaccinated...
...then they would have very obedient sheeple that shun those crazy paranoid conspiracy theorists next time, won't they?  
That, to me, is more like the M.O. of TPTB. Until there is some sort of proof that there is something shady with this particular vaccine series, I am
inclined to get it. If TPTB wanted to cull the population and cause an outrage while doing it, they would just nuke a few cities and blame some brown
people...
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reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 12:12 PM by Revealation
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Originally posted by pluckynoonez
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Yeah, whitewave said in another thread that they had to cancel a 100,000 dollar surgery because a nurse didn't show due to being sick. The point is
(and maybe she can come to this thread an clarify) there is not enough RNs to go around, you start giving walking papers to many who refuse this shot
and there won't be any medical care available, for anyone.
This is exactly right (and I gave a star for this being a fact in the field..shhh, don't tell anybody). My wife is always telling me there's a
shortage of nurses and her being a head nurse has on MANY occasions had to take a full assignment of multible patients while still doing her duty as
head nurse.
That's why I feel (and I'm not one to protest) that this will be positive if they can get as many people as possible. They need all the people they
can get. If the future health care workers who are students now also join in it will make a major statement.
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reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 12:12 PM by TeddiRevolution
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Now that it's here, without the trumpets and riots and civil unrest, I wonder if anyone will even notice.
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reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 12:13 PM by orderedchaos
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The first is coersion by threatening our livelihood, and they cannot be allowed to get away with such menace - for some reason (call it instinct), I
think they will try next to take away will be our kids.
I apologize for such horrific images that invokes, but I can't get that Children Work for FEMA memo out of my head, nor can I the passage that 'kids
will work toward being reunited with their families.'
We can't them take another step, or I think they may just take everything we have.
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reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 12:22 PM by silo13
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Here ya go - I re-sized but I hope it's not still too big.
TEST lol
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reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 12:27 PM by spinkyboo
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Originally posted by marg6043
Interesting, I thought Obama said that vaccines where not mandatory.
This is the way the Fed keeps itself looking somewhat clean - it defers to the states to make the decision (which is not actually true either
according to the WHO) - my question is - what is the payoff for the states - what are they getting from the fed for pushing the vaccine to this
degee?
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reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 12:27 PM by Revealation
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I understand your view and how you can be torn on the subject. First I would like to clarify that I'm not claiming Bio Warfare but speculated that
IF they were actually responsible for producing and distibuting the H1N1 that it would definately be considered a form of Bio warfare.
That outta the way I agree with your points regarding surgurgeons scrubbing in and if I contracted the flu from a worker but I would expect them to
excersize and use the same COMMON SENSE, and knowledge learned through school and training. Scrub in to be sterile yet be incompetent enough to go to
work all infected is just poor judgment and the should be written up at the least depending on the severity their actions caused.
Like I said a lot of it's common sense and unfortunately many people don't have it. I just express that NOBODY has the right to threaten you with
your life for not bending to their will. If I told you I was going to beat youy within an inch of your life if you didn't give me your
money...wouldn't you feel violated. Same principle. Being forced to conformto the will of another's agenda
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reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 12:28 PM by Victoria 1
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I could not agree with you more. These people are out of control. Something needs to be done because it will only get worse!
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reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 12:31 PM by harrytuttle
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Take the shots and kiss their boots. Bow down to your NWO masters.
Your nervous system will shrivel into atrophy and disease, and there won't be a damned thing you can do about it.
Or you can refuse the shot, lose your job, and keep your lips clean from the scum on their boots. Stand up to your NWO thugs, and declare them your
enemy.
/Alex Jones like rant.
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