This is kinda freaky. In April this year, ATS was nuts about getting to the bottom of what was going on. I am quite happy that because of ATS I was able to inform most everyone close to me about, "What I saw on the horizon".

I can only hope that as this news crosses borders. As similar state legislations are passed, people I had hoped to touch will sense the irony behind forced action. Ultimately leading them to investigate everything themselves.

I LOVE ATS!! :kisses:

[edit on 23-9-2009 by sticky]

I'm from Mass and I have watched this go down slowly but surely. Liberty started and ended here. All I can say is... Let them try to pull this off without a hitch. That would be an interesting sight.

What will really suck is when they add a clause that if you don't get the shot, you can lose your home and other belongings, maybe even your children for being an unsuitable parent. They can do ANYTHING they want because NO ONE fights. NO ONE calls and complains.

It really must be an exciting time to be someone in power knowing that you have thus unrestricted power. But woe to them for when the people FINALLY wake! And I can't wait. This country needs an enema...and one of those flu shots.

Wow, I'm beginning to feel like I should change my name to Logan and start running...

Two things come to mind immediately when I think about this happening in my state.

1. I cannot forcefully defeat them if they want to come for me and my family.
2. Even being fully aware of number 1, I refuse to submit. I can't get 'em all, but I can get enough to make the rest of them think about their immediate futures.

Seriously, anyone who even implies intent to stick my kids with this vaccine will be met with a violent, unmeasured response.

Thanks though, as making the vaccine mandatory makes otherwise complacent people start to wonder. These methods of enforcement makes them quit wondering, and wake the hell up.

You think the "insurgency" in Iraq is bad? Wait 'till you get a load of us.

eerrrr uuuhhhmmm can we verify this through a news source that is not main stream faux or msn?

I have not heard of this anywhere else. Not that I don't believe it, but until I have a trustworthy source, I will take it with a grain of salt thank you.

Fear mongering from these stations is rampant.

Harm None
Peace

And to top it all off, nothing says the flu season like Denver this year, which went from Summer to Winter in one day. Yes, I feel all of this is happening faster than we think.

Who ever thought FOX news would actually do something
beneficial for the people? Suddenly, they're on OUR SIDE?
politics makes strange bedfellows as they say - I just don't
want to see what kind of bastard child comes out of this.

All this talking we do here on ATS is great, but has anyone actually performed any ACTIONS on this? Somebody in the state of Mass. had better get this thing challenged in the Supreme Court ASAP. It clearly is in violation of numerous individual rights, not just liberties and I can't imagine the SCOTUS refusing to at least review it. (unless many here are correct, and the fix is in, that is.)

I don't know about you all but where I live, but here, even the most hardcore obamateurs have told me they believe there would be an armed revolution if there were forced vaccinations.

That is coming from people who probably bought the Obama commemorative plate and pray to it.

Seems that the government is getting scarred, perhaps they have looked at what I've been yelling about for the last 8 years - I got this published last year.
IS GE FOOD ENABLING PANDEMICS?
Posted by: admin ⋅ July 27, 2008 ⋅ Post a comment
Tags: genetic engineering Posted in: Featured, Health, News, Science
23 July 2008

There have been more than a dozen pandemics since 1730. Each has been an entirely new virus, for which we had no immunity. One of the more recent pandemics, an influenza virus, while in transit between the America’s and Asia was found to have mutated 8 times.
With heat shock and pollutants such as heavy metals favoring horizontal gene transfer; and the antibiotics increasing the frequency of horizontal gene transfer up to 10,000 times. We need to take another look at our worse case scenarios.
We know that -
Bacteria naturally attempt gene transfer to produce their own food.
GMO’s shed genes more readily then natural organisms.
The gene package in the GM food we consume daily, survive in human saliva for an hour.
Ingested DNA sequences large enough to contain whole genes have remained intact and entered the blood and tissues.
The bacteria Agrobacterium Tumefaciens is in all soils and is frequently used to transport the gene insertion package.
Parts of the insertion package have been found in human intestines, GMO releases were approved because reassurances were given that this would not happen.
I am asking to test Agrobacterium Tumefaciens and other typical soil bacteria, and the common bacteria we as humans carry, to see if their are increases in attempted gene transfer when in contact with GMO’s and antibiotics.
Presently, in the 200 million acres of GM crops planted in North America, are workers with mutated viruses, flu viruses and on antibiotics while eating their GM food. Our field tests are a support of this.
The government has been shown how to approach growing & producing GM safely indoors. We can destroy the insertion package before allowing the product into the market place. Currently no effort has been made to reduce these risks. Production increases from growing indoors proves GM releases unnecessary for the production of food.
The minister of health has informed us that we have increased our pandemic preparations because of concerns of the bird flu mutating. The minister of the environment spouts ERMA like some form of mantra.
Perhaps readers would like to e-mail the Ministers and ask them “How many more pandemics? Or what are the risks with GM food and antibiotics? Or do bacteria attempt gene transfer more often because of GM releases? These are fundamental questions; ask why existing research into horizontal gene transfer will not answer this.
When they start talking about something else and you have reminded them of the question, and finally they refuse to answer, join me in asking them to do testing in the lab and find out.
In election year find a party that will fix this, or make one. Currently with what we do know; you do not get to survive the worse case scenario.

...I was brought up as a pighunter.

Wonderful animals, wild pigs, they can be the masters and the defenders of their environment.

Ultimately the armed hunter is the one who predominately is going to win the day - but every now and then you hear of some hunter getting gouged up pretty bad by an enraged/frightened Boar who got the drop on that hapless hunter.

One thing about pighunting is that the pigs who make all the noise, who leave all the tracks, who stand out in the open snorting and grunting in your direction make for an easy kill. Their moment of defiance is very short-lived...lasting the extent of a rifle raise, a bolt slide, a trigger pull and a bullet flight.

Its the pigs that are quiet, who know the hunter is in the region, who keep a wary eye on the hunter...but who don't snuffle and snort at them...those are the ones that often remain free to roam another day.

Or better yet from the pigs possible point of view: Able to dash out from the undergrowth and skewer that overly confident hunter, tearing out their calf muscle and leaving them far worse off.


Wonderful animals, wild pigs.



Whatever anyone is planning on doing, or thinking, remember what happens to the Boar that broadcasts it out in the open...

...be the Boar that waits in the shadows...




Peace.