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Ahmadinejad: Iran not a threat, but an 'opportunity' for Obama

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posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 03:37 AM
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Ahmadinejad: Iran not a threat, but an 'opportunity' for Obama


www.haaretz.com

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Tuesday that his country was not a threat to the United States as President Barack Obama has said, but "an opportunity."

In an interview with The Associated Press, Ahmadinejad said he expects open discussion of nuclear issues at a planned meeting with officials from the U.S. and five other powers.

The Iranian leader made clear, however, that Iran was not interested in discussing pressure to restrain its contentious nuclear program, which he again said was not intended to produce nuclear weapons.
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posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 03:38 AM
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Iran is a real threat, and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the Holocaust Denier, is leading the charge.

In all essence, Iran would produce nukes and mate it on Shahab-3 MRBMs, placing Israel in its crosshairs.

Once Ahmadinejad has a few nukes in his possession, he will be able to accomplish a feat Adolf Hitler would have dreamed of.

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posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 04:00 AM
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Do you know what reason means? Hopefully you do cause I'm going to ask you to reason with me. Why the POOP would Iran nuke Israel?



posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 04:03 AM
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Why would a terrorist strap bombs to mentally handicapped children to blow up mosques, hospitals, open markets?

You're attributing reason to an irrational person.



posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 04:07 AM
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A outspoken desire to see Israel let's see "Wiped off the map"?


 
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posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 04:08 AM
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Originally posted by mikerussellus
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Why would a terrorist strap bombs to mentally handicapped children to blow up mosques, hospitals, open markets?

You're attributing reason to an irrational person.


What does Iran have to do with the terrorism? Isn't that the product of American foreign policy?

The question was, why would Iran nuke Israel?



posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 04:11 AM
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Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
Reply to post by oozyism
 


A outspoken desire to see Israel let's see "Wiped off the map"?


 
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Do people Realy believe Iran will use nukes against Israel?

I am starting to think that many individuals have thoughts stuck behind there heads which constantly tell them that if Iran gets a nuclear weapon, they will use it against Israel.

Now this is a serious subject, this is a serious assumption, this is a serious claim which needs to be either proven with evidence which backs this thought, or a counter.

Now my part will be to counter this absurd claim which has been implanted in many minds through the media:

The first argument which will be used against the Iranians if you have focused on the debates is the following:
--iran IS a society built around martyr dome therefore they would nuke Israel--
This is a common argument used against Iran in debates, at first glance it makes sense due to implanted images in our head which are triggered.

When you look at evidence it is not at all the characteristic of Iran:
When Iran was attacked, Iran didn't go all out against Iraq, does any one ask why? It is because they were weak and they didn't believe it was necessary. So at the time when Iran thought it couldn't win an occupation against Iraq why did it stop? Do the Iranian leaders actually have brains? If Iran knows it doesn't stand a chance against Israel why should it nuke it? It is just absurd and what is even more absurd is the fact that people believe this absurdity.

People seem to believe Iranian leaders would be willing to risk the lives of all Iranians for the sake of destroying Israel, as evidence shows it is not true at all.

Another argument which will be used against Iran would be the rehitorics of their leaders for example: --wipe Israel off the map--

This is a very common quote used against Iran, even politicians use it although it has been proven over and over again as a myth:

Press TV: So you did not threaten to wipe Israel off the map as an Iranian leader? That we will wipe Israel off the map?

Ahmadinejad: No. We say that the people of Palestine should have rights and when the people of Palestine exercise this right, this will happen. Where is the Soviet Union? The Soviet Union has been wiped off the map. What happened to the Soviet Union? The decision of the people, the vote of the people. When the people of the Soviet Union, the Russian people, were allowed to decide to take charge of their destiny, the Soviet Union disappeared.

The Zionist regime is an artificial regime… a fictitious regime. You brought people from different parts of the world and you have built this state. No, that cannot last, it is not sustainable. If they do not listen to our solution, this will happen one day.


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Please pour your arguments against Iran, I will try to shed some lights in all of them through this thread.

Thanks for your time

oozy

[edit on 23-9-2009 by oozyism]



posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 04:11 AM
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And you're giving the atribute of reason to a man who thinks the holocaust didn't happen.

Might as well ask why Jesus doesn't split costs of a time-share with the Easter Bunny.

It makes no sense.



posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 04:18 AM
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It's NOT Iran Nuking anyone or Israel Nuking anyone.

It's a few Individuals Nuking Israel or a few Individuals Nuking Iran

Cowardly obsessed me hell bent on power. Prone to temptation, with incredible mechanisms at work in their brains to even let them want to "rule a nation" or "the world" perhaps...

Worse unlike the previous era of Nuclear check mates, this is not the Soviet Union or America where these men had what to loose and were at odds over political beliefs...

This is about Race, religion.... GOD

One side Israel, has leaders heavily influenced by religious men

the other side Iran is even worse the people ar directly ruled by men who's motives are genuinely by belief from a "higher calling"

Israel could just Nuke Iran

Iran definitely and highly likely might just Nuke Israel.

Because it's not Israel or Iran, in both cases one imho more worrisome than the other, the Missiles are controlled by fanatical nuts, not the Nations or people that inhabit them.



posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 04:20 AM
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Originally posted by mikerussellus
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And you're giving the atribute of reason to a man who thinks the holocaust didn't happen.

Might as well ask why Jesus doesn't split costs of a time-share with the Easter Bunny.

It makes no sense.


Do you want to start a discussion regarding the Holocaust? or stay on topic?

Your argument is that since Ahmadinajad rejects holocaust he can't reason? That is bluntly wrong, it actually proves that Ahmadinajad can reason. That he actually has a brain and that he can think on his own without someone having to tell him how the world is and how it was.

Winners write history, prove me wrong



posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 04:25 AM
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The fact that HE denies the holocaust speaks loudly of his inability to reason. To be rational.

And here you are, giving him a clean bill of mental health.

Why?



posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 05:04 AM
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Because the enemy of his enemy is his friend, even though that perception is completely illogical. In fact it's simply ridiculous.


[edit on 23-9-2009 by john124]



posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 05:42 AM
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*snip*,he hasnt denied the holocaust but has questioned the official figures.The wipe Israel off the map comment mentioned above is another myth a bogus translation designed to give the haters ammo.

*snip*What motivates you to spread this,do you think if enough petty minded islam haters throw enough muck on Iran then some is going to stick and gods children can attack it?




[edit on 23-9-2009 by noangels]

edited to remove personal attacks discuss the topic please.

[edit on 23-9-2009 by gallopinghordes]



posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 05:53 AM
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Originally posted by noangels
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,he hasnt denied the holocaust but has questioned the official figures.The wipe Israel off the map comment mentioned above is another myth a bogus translation designed to give the haters ammo.

?What motivates you to spread this,do you think if enough petty minded islam haters throw enough muck on Iran then some is going to stick and gods children can attack it?
[edit on 23-9-2009 by noangels]



Whoa sparky! Lay off the redbull. Youtube, in his own words. If you want to split hairs and discuss semantics, fine. But he is the one making threats. He is the one supporting Palestine, who is doing it's damnest to take land away from Israel.
And read back, I never said that he wanted to wipe Israel off the map. I did learn that it was a myth.

Ain't no lies here.








[edit on 23-9-2009 by gallopinghordes]



posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 06:08 AM
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He said the holocaust was a myth - that's his own words, as my Farsi speaking friends have told me.

Oh and saying Israel will soon disappear/vanish is no less threatening than saying wipe off the map, so semantics is really a pointless & irrelevant argument for this case.

It's not really about hate, so just grow up.

[edit on 23-9-2009 by john124]



posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 06:09 AM
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cool,if you know the wipe israel myth then your not all that bad


Will check that vid link out later,did try the link on this machine and it wouldnt work for some reason

For the record,many believe that the palistinians are the ones being forced out of their homes and lands by a group of thugs who believe that god gave them the deeds for that land a long time ago!I feel like starting my own religion and evicting them from thier houses,its amazing in this day and age to hear prominant people in power in israel still say that god gave them this land.

Will look at your vid later.thank you



posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 06:12 AM
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I must have missed the memo. When did it become taboo to criticize an enemy state?

Are we friends now? Do I have to start bashing Israel, because the politicians are doing it in DC?
Is Iran our new BFF?

-silly-



posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 06:15 AM
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Why create an issue out of their land anyways? We sure as hell didn't ask the american indians to take theirs. Whether you are pro/anti Israel, it is their land now.
And myopic threats from Iran aren't going to make them do nice for anyone.



posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 06:23 AM
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do you ever actualy read or listen to what he says ?


he questions wether the numbers - which are the same as quoted during WW1 are actually real - he says why did the soon-to-be-leaders of israel throw away the lives of 1/2 million jews they had the chance of saving - but instead might as well have lead them to the gas chambers themselves

he also says that given teh documented breakdowns of the ovens and machinery - the `6 million` figure isn`t right - and he also says that the entire event was engineered (given teh failure of the same thing in WW1) to give them the homeland they want - even slaughtering the british (the israel forces) to ensure they did this.


you have heard of the king david hotel masscare? the british soldiers hung drawn and quaetered for `being in the way` by israelies?

edited to remove personal attacks

[edit on 23-9-2009 by gallopinghordes]



posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 06:23 AM
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