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Originally posted by stevegmu
Polygamy shouldn't be restricted to Mormons- that would be discriminatory. Gays and polygamists live alternative lifestyles. Why would it be Ok to discriminate against polygamists, while granting 'rights' to gays?
Originally posted by maus80
How is this "extra rights"? Please explain what extra rights are granted.
How is increasing the number of people who can have a "nuclear family" a destruction of that model?
Could you be clearer? You make zero sense here...
Originally posted by jd140
If by bigot you meant that my being a roommate of a gay guy when I lived in Germany means I hate gay people, then yes I am a bigot.
I applaude you for proving the assume analogy correct.
I don't mind homosexuals getting married. What I do mind is the Federal Government forcing the hand of the State.
Originally posted by stevegmu
Really? I thought both were about equal rights? The argument is about equality in marriage. If the bill were really about equal rights, polygamists wouldn't be excluded.
Crying straw-man is like crying racism...
Originally posted by Dark Ghost
I do not believe taxpayers should be paying benefits to fund two people who cannot naturally reproduce their own children. My opinion, sorry if you don't like it.
Originally posted by jd140
Small government until it suits our agenda, then its okay for them to expand a little.
Originally posted by Dark Ghost
Technically it is not more rights, but homosexuals have always had the same rights to marriage that heterosexuals have. Bisexuals and heterosexuals were not allowed to marry members of the same sex before either. So how has there been discrimination against gays? Both have always had the right and freedom to marry members of the opposite sex, because this is how marriage has been defined.
Originally posted by maus80
Originally posted by Dark Ghost
I do not believe taxpayers should be paying benefits to fund two people who cannot naturally reproduce their own children. My opinion, sorry if you don't like it.
I know tons of lesbian couples who have children who were produced quite naturally.
You would grant them rights that you would deny to people who are sterile or do not wish to reproduce?
Nobody has equal rights under law that discriminate based on sexual organs.
I can marry a woman because I have a penis, my friend Sara can't because she does not. This is not equal rights.
If sexual organs are removed from the equation, then everyone truly has equal marriage rights.
Originally posted by Dark Ghost
Being a couple should not grant two people state benefits because they are together. If allowed to occur, isn't this discrimination against singles?
[edit on 23/9/2009 by Dark Ghost]
Originally posted by maus80
Yes it is, in the same way that any government regulation/cut/allowance etc that only applies to homeowners is discrimination against renters. I can agree with you.
But how do you give rights involving the ownership of a home to someone who doesn't own a home?
How do you grant someone rights based on a legal contract, if they have not entered into one?
Originally posted by stevegmu
reply to post by VintageEnvy
Polygamy shouldn't be restricted to Mormons- that would be discriminatory. Gays and polygamists live alternative lifestyles. Why would it be Ok to discriminate against polygamists, while granting 'rights' to gays?
Originally posted by maus80
reply to post by Dark Ghost
How is redefining the terms of a specific type of legal contract redefining what a legal contract is?
Please explain.
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
Just one more step towards true equal rights for all citizens.