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posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 05:00 AM
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I have done some reading on pole shifts. And yes they have found lava that have Iron structures that point to the south instead of to the North. This finding was done 50 years ago from Lava samples gathered from Hawaii. But this finding or knowledge was not actually accepted until now.

What this lava basically told us is that the magnetic structures in Iron pointed to the south some 780 000 years ago. To day Magnetic structures in Iron point to the North. As the magnetic current flows from magnetic south to magnetic north. This finding would indicate that there was at least one pole shift before. Well actually they found more samples that indicate that a pole shift has occurred every 200 000 years or so.

From old pottery they have been able to measure the strength and direction of the magnetic current at the time the pottery was made from clay. As with Lave the iron elements within the Clay would line up with the present magnetic current N and S as it cooled down. This is also the case with Iron owens to day. The Iron that is molded has its magnetic structures pointing to the magnetic current N and S as it cools down.

By these studies they have found it quite safe to say that Earths magnetic current has changed directions in the past. The current has made a 180 degree change of direction.



[edit on 27.06.08 by spy66]




posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 08:49 AM
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I was unaware of that Spy66, thank you for your input.

So if this does occur what exactly happened 200,000 years ago?

Is there any record of it in any civilisations and if so it would be facinating.

I am well aware of how the mayans had said the world had been destroyed several times once by fire, and other times by water.

If such an event did have a massive impact and human civilisation was able to keep a record of it wouldnt it be amazing to see from their own perspective



posted on Oct, 1 2009 @ 09:02 AM
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It is pretty scary when somebody conglamerates a story together.. and it is a pretty close match of what your research path has also shown.

I like the Venus theory, hadn't heard of that. Nearly, everything else you mention is aligned with many others.

I do think the TPTB won the war for suppression of the truth and intervention is inevitable.

[edit on 1-10-2009 by sticky]



posted on Oct, 4 2009 @ 11:03 AM
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The second earthquake has hit indonesia


Anyone else keeping track of the effects globally or just me?



posted on Oct, 7 2009 @ 02:19 AM
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Just updating on the theory after my account was banned after posting a timeline of the history of palestine, well I wont be doing that again (I wont upset the zionist members of ATS again and your racist doctrine of erasing history)

So I'll just update on the effects currently,

At the moment India has been flooded and so has the Phillipines... Heading towards the end of October I forsee the Israeli strike on the Iranian Facility.

The death of the dollar was just a matter of time, and the second collapse of the market is predicted very shortly.

During the wall st crash there was in fact two crashes the first one recovered then slumped dramatically.

This again is the hostile takeover of non illumini companies.

Apart from that the serious implications from my calculations are manifesting themselves faster than I had predicted, what we are looking at is another possible earthquake... this is just maths at the moment, and I am not a seismologist.

For the Record I will just keep updating this topic with more information and not piss off the control freaks again I wish to share this information with everyone before its too late.

If you remove this topic you have no idea how serious I am being....

This is purely science and I am not emphasising on anything spiritual.

I do beleive from my data, WW3 is approaching much faster than I anticipated.

Expect Conscription to be revived shortly, and hostile talks with china and russia to emerge.

The USA is actually not impressed with the Iranainas having the Russians process the Uranium for them, nor is the Israeli Prime minister happy with the fact that Russia has intentionally given the Iranians intelligence on building a warhead, this does not mean entirely that the Iranians are working on such a device at the present time and this can be avoided.

What Israel is attempting to do is push the US into a corner where it must allow it to strike the Iranian facility.

The funding of several anti government forces in Iran have be responsible for many attacks against civillians, and the funding of the kurdish rebels is now a common cause for many Semetic and Arab states to allign them selves against.

There is no doubt that the USA has been funding and arming forces in the region for years to attempt to destabilise Turkey, Iran, Syria and Iraq (during saddam) by using the PKK.

This is why Saddam Hussein Gassed the Kurds, yes it was disproportianate but this was his response (as much as the world hated him)

At the present time according to data that I am receiving the Iranians are Training the Basj militia into being converted in to the revolutionary guard.

The Militia which is a volunteer force is helping the Taliban, hezbollah, and hamas there is no secret about that. The Iranians are as guilty as the USA.

But as for Motive?

The USA will eventually outlive its welcome in Saudi arabia and other 'US friendly states" as the dollar becomes worthless.

From this we can expect a massive outleash of aggression from the USA towards arab states which adopt a new stance, they will be labelled as supporters of terror and so on and so forwarth.


My warning was not taken seriously in the past with a previous account 12 months ago, and I was laughed at and ridiculed for even bringing up the solar storm. Well look who has the last laugh.


Please ask questions and I will asnwer them the best I can.

More people need to collaborate Ideas here based on SCIENCE AND HISTORY.

NOT MUSHROOMS OR MIND ALTERING SUBSTANCES



posted on Oct, 22 2009 @ 05:54 AM
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Originally posted by DoctorLaVey
Well I'll explain on the natural disaster.

Now I have only just become aware of the possible natural disaster regarding the moon IF that is in fact if the moon is hollow, but I strongly disagree with this as the moon as been pulverised non stop by metorites for thousands of years in fact its been responsible for saving our ass multiple times.

As for a huge explosion causing the moon to go off by about a few degrees and screwing with the earths tides well thats a plausible theory.

The main problem is in fact the solar storm, and the effects from a massive CME, alot of people find it hard to beleive that the sun is in fact the source of global warming.

We started hearing about global warming back in 2000, funnily enough that was around the same time the sun started going into the solar minimum, it reached the solar minimum back in 2006.

Now how does this relate to global warming?

Now during a CME the north and south pole's of the earth and the sun become less focused and move directions as it would normally (true north and true south) But as we approach 2012 the movement of true north and true south become more and more erradic jumping not a few cm as per usual but meters of kilometers.

So how and why? and since the core is responsible for the north and south pole?

See we will never truely understand why the poles move in relation to the core of the earth or how the sun is able to effect the direction of how the core of the earth moves.

But when this happens the core changes direction gradually causing the mantle to also change direction causing earthquakes and other geographic disasters. (see samoa and nations that are currently being effected around the ring of fire)

Gradually this change will also mess around with seasons an example is El Nino.

But what will happen?

and is this permanent?

Well I cant answer that question in regards to permanence or if this will be a pole shift which I strongly beleive no one can predict, but as for a gradual scrambling of the poles which is currently underway I can tell you straight up that this is happening. As for a pole shift it is gradual and not some instantaneous event.

What will happen?

At first there will be more airliner disasters than normal (which we have already seen) caused by navigational failures which cannot be explained and other problems regarding that will happen. There have been multiple incidents of this so far and I suggest just turning the television on and I guarantee hands down that you will at least see a few coming up.

in relation to Samoa and the Tsunami... the south pacific Tsunami watch was deliberately cancelled moments after the earthquake for what reason I would not be able to guess fully.

Basically it boils down to this,

Navigational failures, natural disasters, and eventually electrical grid failures when in conjunction with the H1N1 Virus you are looking at an apocolyptic senario.

As for Aliens on 'Nibiru' aka Venus we wont be able to find that out for a very long time. Those of us which are familiar with life forms which do live in space itself can understand that not all living creatures require air or oxygen to survive, and does not need to be entirely carbon based to be a living creature.

Space is very similar to that of the ocean.

The one thing which also I have a gut feeling about venus was the japanese prime ministers wife and her story about her trip to venus.... sounds absolutely bizzare and straight out insane... or is it?


The effects of the decreasing range of Venus would be directly felt here on earth particularly causing devistating tides and tsunamis directly felt here on earth from the gravity feild of venus.

Nearly everything about venus is Alien to this solar system, there is another topic on here explaining this and even showing why by giving calculations in regards to its orbit, days and the direction of its axis.

In Regards to acending or other spiritual garbage, THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN, there is nothing sacred


You had me all the way until the very end.
So you presume what ancients knew about the universe, space, and the world. And im not saying about god, im talking about what science now can prove. Was all bs?
quantum physics, time, space, the universe, where we are, what is coming up, crossing the galactic center, being able to predict the suns flares that are coming soon.
All of that was by chance right? lol they just happened to have access to a Hubble telescope or they had an active ATS account? lol

I find it funny that spiritual is "absurd" yet it talked about EVERYTHING you just spoke about, thousands of years ago...and science now is barley being able to "catch up" with it. lol
i am somewhat amused right now. SCIENCE IS DEFINITE, but the thing that science STUDIES (spiritual/religion) isn't?...



posted on Oct, 22 2009 @ 05:57 AM
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Please DoctorLaVey, if you could answer my question. JUST AN ANSWER, no speculation, no quoting from other scientists, no other doctrines of some sort, just a STRAIGHT ANSWER as to how all that is, i would be very glad.
A SCIENTIFIC REASON that is...u know...the thing that you claim to be the REAL answers, and nothing spiritual at all lol



posted on Oct, 22 2009 @ 06:01 AM
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Originally posted by DoctorLaVey
People have tried fooling themselves into thinking this will be a 'spiritual experience' giving them superpowers... please lay off the shrooms there is nothing supernatural about this.

Has this happened before?

well taking into account the destruction of atlantis, and noah's flood and the ark's location being now a military base in turkey its highly likely that we are being withheld crucial information to what the ark actually was.

The Ice Caps are melting there is no doubt about that, but looking back into history we have seen this happen again before about 7,000 years ago when we look into carbon dating (another article here on ATS).

Our Ancestors were giving us a clear warning and even dated to when this would APPROXIMATELY occur, There is no specific date so throw the 21st of December out the window.

Am I a Christian NO WAY. I am a buddhist.

People who have not watched the Documentary on the Chariots of the gods I highly advise you do so

www.youtube.com... Part 1

There are anomalies which we cannot explain from this movie.

The whole Idea of Qi Gong is not exactly Insane either, but there is nothing in relation to 2012 just to set the record straight.

WORST POSSIBLE SENARIO

During a CME and the weakening of the Earths Magnetic feild we will become more exposed to radiation, and guess what unfortunately for me I live in Australia which is the main fallout area of the earth as it has the largest 'hole' in the ozone layer.

the Main Fallout area for Australia will be Northern Australia and central Australia.

This will not be like out of the movie Knowing at all... that was hollywood crap which has no scientific grounds whatsoever.

the movie 2012 is again more zionist bullcrap which still misses crucial points.

We will not be in the center of the Universe, in fact the milky way is in fact similar to that of a star travelling around something much larger which could be said to be 'a universe inside a universe'


The main problem or reason to as of why NASA is bombing the moon could be a cause to help accelerate a more horrific natural disaster.

SO why are the FEMA camps not in operational?

well think about it, we havent reached the peak yet... and when we do infection rates will soar beyond that of 700%.

What about the Vaccine? well they are urging sick people and the elderly to get in first... and I find that disturbing as that would be a mass cull of the 'weak', remember what the Nazi's did to the disabled or people who were disabled or impaired from an illness?

They murdered them.

Back when the IMAGINARY SARS VIRUS hit, they spent more money on developing a H1N1 Vaccine than the SARS vaccine... funny bout that as well...

What I have touched on here has been the main subject of the bilderberg meetings and especially the one in Canada.

Some people ask me "who is mabus" bad news people Mabus died ages ago who was he, just a normal human being like all of us he wasnt famous, and he wasnt some amazing world leader. He wasnt murdered, he just simply died.

Now I am going to Touch on a subject here on ATS which is frowned on, now to make this CLEAR I am not advocating the use of illicit substances,
but if you watch the Chariots of the gods as above they touch on the "veda" subject in the Hindu Relgion, and Lord shiva the "god of destruction" who was also the god of "cannabis". People have asked me to as of why Marijuana is illegal if all the recent data points out it is in fact both physically and mentally safer than that of Alcohol, and as of to why the HEMP plant even though it is not a drug is banned in the USA and some other countries.

The reason being is that if this was in fact given to us by a Veda this would imply that Cannabis is in fact not entirely as Natural as we might think.

Think about it, a plant that contains a chemical that destroys cancer cells and can help cure physical ailments is made illegal and not even used for medical purposes like the opium poppy.

So why?


You are a buddhist? Yet you search only for the Negative aspects of 2012, ONLY THE EVIL "scary things" of 2012. BUDDHISM first of all says obliterative ALL FEAR... ALL OF IT, and in fact you are here raising fear. Once again i know your "trying to help" but this is all speculation off of GOOGLE SEARCHING (hardly any REAL re-search). As well as a Buddhist you would surely know that 2012 IS a spiritual moment. Whether its for good or BAD it is a spiritual moment. Much will be learned from it, as well as taken from it. Whether we all die or live, much POSITIVE SPIRITUAL things will come from 2012. REAL BUDDHIST's see the positive in all the negative things. And smile at it, not spread doom and gloom, but spread positive from the gloom.
Please dont claim you are a buddhist just because u read a few things, or watched a few youtube videos
its a state of mind, not a state of title.



posted on Oct, 22 2009 @ 06:08 AM
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"veda" subject in the Hindu Relgion, and Lord shiva the "god of destruction"

haha god..you really find the facts that you WISH and WANT to find.
THATS NOT AT ALL HOW HINDU WORKS.

First of all there are 3 "MAIN GODS" but there are NO AMOUNT OF GODS NEITHER. they dont believe there is ONE GOD for ONE THING, they somewhat believe that all the gods are ONE god, just in a multi mind all as one.

They are neither monotheism nor
Brahma, Vishu, And Shiva. are the three "MAIN GODS"
Brahma is the creator, Vishnu is the sustainer, and Shiva is the destroyer and/or consummator.

IT IS NOT JUST A GOD TO COME HERE and "destroy things" and kill us all. its a god to bring balance to a negative and positive, when one gets to much, (good or positive) "shiva" comes to BALANCE it out.
There view is that ANY GOD, is enough to worship for they are all the same, all in one, just as we are all one, and all the same.e

As well, it is never thought to be a WOMEN or a MAN or ONE SINGLE person. Quite literally US HUMANS can be seen as SHIVA, (the destroyer's and consummators)

please get your religions STRAIGHT, dont quote a book that was written and BARLEY touched any basis or facts on religions. NO ONE can literally explain the full extent of hinduism.



posted on Oct, 22 2009 @ 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by DoctorLaVey

This is my theory based on events and current changes in the weather.

In fact the changes in the solar storm indicate that the sun is in fact responsible for global warming



Wait a second, I have to write that down


I swear, some of the things I read on here make me wonder if 2012 isn't actually a GOOD thing.



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 02:46 AM
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First off, being a modern buddhist I am not a beleiver in re-incarnation or a soul. I am indeed an aethist but I follow the principles of buddhism.

There is nothing spiritual about what we are going through.


The ring of fire has been activated/disturbed due to the direction of the core changing, and this has a direct correlation to some CME's that have been felt in the last month or so.

The effects are NOT immediate, they are gradual sometimes even taking a week for the full effects to emerge.

I have had to create another account due to a repeating problem.

Again, this is a SCIENTIFIC explanation, there is nothing to look forward to.

At the moment I can tell you the 'giant ball of BS' is starting off.

On the 28th the banks did a shift in the market and shifted around something, to which we can only speculate and guess. (this was on another topic).

and the New crop circle I have partially translated.

i.telegraph.co.uk...

Basically those 9 balls your seeing NOT including the center one are the planets of the solar system. But the Yin Yang sort of symbol stands for an eclipse. The big wave in the middle translates to solar wind.

The Second disc from the center translates to VENUS the second planet after mercury. the one behind it is earth.

Most people would speculate saying the second disc should be earth but in fact it is not.

Venus will be in its transit in 2012, and there is no doubt now in my mind that venus is the real nibiru.

The exact order of the discs either counting from left to right i am uncertian of. It could be translated either from Right to left or left to right.

My understanding is the wave hits as far as mars, but then again it could be said the large disc is jupiter... but to say that would make no sense as of the order of the disc.

"You had me all the way until the very end.
So you presume what ancients knew about the universe, space, and the world. And im not saying about god, im talking about what science now can prove. Was all bs?
quantum physics, time, space, the universe, where we are, what is coming up, crossing the galactic center, being able to predict the suns flares that are coming soon.
All of that was by chance right? lol they just happened to have access to a Hubble telescope or they had an active ATS account? lol

I find it funny that spiritual is "absurd" yet it talked about EVERYTHING you just spoke about, thousands of years ago...and science now is barley being able to "catch up" with it. lol
i am somewhat amused right now. SCIENCE IS DEFINITE, but the thing that science STUDIES (spiritual/religion) isn't?... "

See kaskade, there is no such thing as a spiritual entity, or magic as such, our own perception of magic or god or super powers is limited and by that I mean if you were to observe the middle ages and see how science was once revered as 'magic' or witchcraft, it can be seen in that light.

Everything has a scientific explanation, if we cannot find it, it is there it just means we are not yet intelligent enough to understand how or why, and our maths is still only very basic. in the last 200 years modern society has been built, in the last 50 years or so we have only had computers and advanced mathematics, and only just begun to understand physics, and space itself.

If I was to sit down with you and explain to you that everything you saw and touched was thinner than paper, and a projection, but also if you were to vibrate particles to a certian degree you could detect another dimension you would have no idea what I was talking about or even be able to comprehend it.

This is the thing that defines that there is no soul, if it cannot be detected or found, and if there is no way of detecting a soul reading similar to that of electricity I stand at my point of saying there is no soul or in fact a spiritual entity called the holy spirit.



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 02:55 AM
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To say that our own perceptions of life havent changed is a crock of BS again,
back in the middle ages it was heresy to say the earth was round, or even to speak against the word of the church.

Buddhism does not worship ANY entity, or idol, people who worship buddah or pray to buddah are way off. I attend monastaries regularly and I also am about to take up Qi Gong.

How about I just link everything else together to make it easy?


www.abovetopsecret.com... the 3rd Lebanon war is about to kick off.

Amazingly this could trigger Israel to jump the gun and attack Iran. *BINGO*

www.abovetopsecret.com... Another CME happened again, and funnily enough NASAs SOHO satelite went down just as it got interesting.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Obama Declares h1n1 an emergency and his children receive a different vaccine from the public (not really public knowledge yet).

This all relates to my theory.

The next phase is that the epidemic reaches a peak, in the northern Hemisphere first and FEMA camps are put into use from the CDC.


I will now address the Shiva issue, this is not a debate on hindu gods, I was merely relating to the fact that Shive the lord of destruction was the god of the cannabis plant, this isnt really that important so stop making a big deal out of it, it was a simple example of how far they will go to stop any track of history relating to the Ancients.

Again, a plant that can cure cancer, be used as food, fuel, plastics, paper, fabric, and uses less water than cotton made illegal even when the THC content is below that of being able to be used as a drug. ?

I was merely pointing out the fact, and this is NOT a debate on hindu gods, so please reframe from that.

This is a scientific discussion, please take religious ideals out of the room, this is not the place for them.



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 03:11 AM
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Originally posted by Retseh

Originally posted by DoctorLaVey

This is my theory based on events and current changes in the weather.

In fact the changes in the solar storm indicate that the sun is in fact responsible for global warming



Wait a second, I have to write that down


I swear, some of the things I read on here make me wonder if 2012 isn't actually a GOOD thing.



OK ill explain it.

See how global warming really works is that when we go through these 11 year cycles (this one starting back in 2001 the first time we had heard of global warming and a war on terrorism).

What happens is the North and south poles are less concentrated

science.nasa.gov...

Now during the 11 year cycle the true north and true south are weakened and move in further leaps, basically if the icecaps are too far away from the true north which moves away of course they will melt.

BUT if the poles become weakened and scrambled they will melt.

Which is what happens during a massive CME or a continual amount of them during a solar storm.

www.nasa.gov... this shows the conveyor belt.

and this shows some outcomes science.nasa.gov...

science.nasa.gov... this shows the northern lights which were visable from as far as cuba during a single superstorm in this cycle. (funnily enough I didnt see it on the news)

science.nasa.gov...

This shows how serious NASA is taking this... it is ESTIMATED in 2013 a final PEAK. This does NOT mean the major effects will not be visable in 2012.

The solar storm is only a single PART of the 2012 prediction, it is NOT the entire answer.

2012 is NOT a single event, it is a combination of events which lead up to a series of disasters the 2013 peak may be correct but it does NOT account for the transit of venus, nor does it account for a possible worst case period of the h1n1 virus.

The virus has NO CURE, even with a vaccination the virus will infect you over a period of time.

The best treatment of the virus is electronic cigarettes, which are becoming illegal in the USA shortly. even though the cartrigages only contain nicotine and artificial flavoring which is next to harmless.

Nictotine blocks the vega nerve in your body stopping an overreaction of your immune system which is what kills you NOT THE VIRUS.

the best treatment would be nicotine patches, gum, and if you can get the electronic cigarettes I would stock up on them.


going back to global warming the Australian ABC did a report on the Ice caps and showed they were FREEZING on one side and melting on the other.
This article was written back in 2008 and is no longer on their website.

If someone is able to locate it, that is hard evidence of the direction of true north changing in a faster motion than previously expected.



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 03:12 AM
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Originally posted by kaskade

IT IS NOT JUST A GOD TO COME HERE and "destroy things" and kill us all. its a god to bring balance to a negative and positive, when one gets to much, (good or positive) "shiva" comes to BALANCE it out.
There view is that ANY GOD, is enough to worship for they are all the same, all in one, just as we are all one, and all the same.e

As well, it is never thought to be a WOMEN or a MAN or ONE SINGLE person. Quite literally US HUMANS can be seen as SHIVA, (the destroyer's and consummators)

please get your religions STRAIGHT, dont quote a book that was written and BARLEY touched any basis or facts on religions. NO ONE can literally explain the full extent of hinduism.


you took my point out of context to make me look like an idiot take your trolling elsewhere. Shiva is NOT coming to destroy us all I do not recall saying that.



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 03:23 AM
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By the way here is Russias Military Doctrine for 2010 NEXT YEAR.
en.rian.ru...

how ignorant do people have to be before I have to cram it down their necks,

Russia backs Iran, and ANY threat to Russian interests directly concerns Russia.

If Israel Strikes Iran, they can expect Russia to supply intelligence, and weapons to Iran in order for them to succeed.

The Russians have a military Naval base in Syria, and Surveillance systems in Syria which support Hezbollah in intelligence and counter intelligence.

Surely 1 + 1 = 2 prole.



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 03:48 AM
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Ok, first things first: What is the connection between "Nibiru" debunked and

Originally posted by DoctorLaVey
high amount of christianity BS floating around on the net...
?
Occam's Razor: Hypothesis: Nibiru is a figment of imagination of S. Stitchin. If this hypothesis can be proven logically and scientifically true than you do not need all your part where you try to debunk it as a misrepresentation of the planet Venus. Anyway, what has christianity BS on the net to to with it? Please, explain further ...

About the flu and vaccines: it could kill and it could not kill you, but why risk it, if there is a vaccine for it? e.g. I belong to a high risk part of the general population due to prior bad medical history, so I would appreciate it, if nobody starts to suggest to me not to take the vaccine, 'cause "ya know, it might kill me" while the flu itself might or might not kill me.

Concerning the chips and all that it's coming and it's huge, it's the future and it's not all bad ... just my 2 cents.

Al Qaeda, 9/11 and CIA involvement. Well, the only involvement there is that during the Soviet Afghanistan occupation the CIA funded resistance throughout against the Soviets. From that, the myth was constructed that Bin Laden was CIA trained and funded and a buddy of theirs. The truth is no, because Bin Laden and Al Qaeda did get little if any of the CIA money and weapons and they did not need it. Remember Osama is filthy rich himself. My take is that 9/11 was indeed planned and executed by members of Al Qaeda to show the enemy (the USA) and the world, that Al Qaeda can strike at the centre of your mighty civilisation and wreck havoc.



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posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 03:59 AM
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The single point i would address is the claim that Venus will come so close to the Earth that tidal waves & landmass disturbances whill occur.


normal science tells us it is impossible for a solar storm to push a planet from its orbit.


now, what is possible in the view of todays science is that a massive CME or super-humongous flare(s) could blast off a lot of Venusian Atmosphere into space...
the then unbound atmosphere with all its alien molecules would form into a cometary tail

this comet-tail shaped atmosphere might drift outward until the time when Earth's orbit would pass through this cloud of Venus gas & alien molecules,

what might happen as a result ?
perhaps a near mass extinction event is what.


~counter point~ thank you,



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 05:24 AM
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actually it isnt impossible....

Jupiter gets closer at times doesnt it and it appears brighter in the sky from memory and that wasnt that long ago.

and venus does get closer from memory and shine brighter?....

what planet are you on and what are you smoking? pass it on earth wants it.


What I am saying is that venus will get closer than usual its not going to be as big as the sun, but it will be closer than usual. The effects would be similar to what the moon does with the tides as its GRAVITATIONAL PULL on the tides.

what I am saying is that the gravitational force of venus will have some effect,



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by St Udio

now, what is possible in the view of todays science is that a massive CME or super-humongous flare(s) could blast off a lot of Venusian Atmosphere into space...
the then unbound atmosphere with all its alien molecules would form into a cometary tail

this comet-tail shaped atmosphere might drift outward until the time when Earth's orbit would pass through this cloud of Venus gas & alien molecules,

what might happen as a result ?
perhaps a near mass extinction event is what.


~counter point~ thank you,



To address your point what you are describing is the horned appearance, it is an effect similar to the northern lights dancing in the sky on earth, but in this case the solar winds are stronger, and with the constant winds of venus's clouds in combination with an electromagnetic event such as the northern lights it gives a horned appearance.

No I do not beleive this poses a threat to humanity, BUT, who is to say that the h1n1 virus originated from earth? it's appearance during these events which coincide with the transit of venus and the solar storm do make it suspicious. But we can only speculate.

If a massive amount of venus's atmosphere was blown into our own in a strong concentration of sulfuric acid was to become present in our own atmosphere then yes, but there is a million to one chance of that happening.

It would also need to be VERY close, and it would be like trying to shoot a pin head with a cannon.

But your concerns are valid as it is a scientific question.



posted on Oct, 28 2009 @ 09:26 AM
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I found another member who is on to my point.

here are his posts. I thank this member alot for his input.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

This is in regards to global warming.

Enjoy and I thank this member for his input.



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