posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 11:44 AM
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic
Matthews did not "go on a tirade".
He did not "threaten" anyone.
He didn't mention race or racism.
I don't know what you're watching, but its not the videos I posted. I welcome everyone to watch them videos I posted and tell me Chris isn't
mentioning race, accusing anti-Obama protesters of being racists and threatening them by claiming "they're playing with fire".
When I was a kid and my dad told me that I was "playing with fire" , it usually meant I was about to get an ass spanking.
Once NBC gets the transcripts up I'll post them, but anyone can click on the videos and see BH is full of it. If you really doubt Chris's position,
look at ANOTHER conversation he had with his panel.
CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST: Rick, you've just got a big cover out this week in Time magazine about this paranoid streak in American history.
We've written about it, learned about it for years. Is it part right now, part of it is this white attitude towards a black president? Is it that
RICHARD STENGEL, TIME MANAGING EDITOR: You know, I start from the viewpoint that lots and lots of racists voted for Barack Obama. I don't, I
can't tell you what is in people's minds and heart. I do believe that the reaction that's going on now would happen to a white president who's
trying to do some of the same things that Barack Obama is doing. But I do think also that us dwelling on it, and I agree with Obama about this, is
actually not good for the public discourse. It's not good for America. We basically have to move on from this kind of discussion and deal with him as
he is, as President. And by the way, remember once upon a time we worried about the fact that people couldn't criticize Barack Obama because he's
black. We're passed that now.
Matthews doesn't like that his first guest disagreed with his assessment, so he goes on to the next:
MATTHEWS: Let's take a look at this sign, I want Kathleen to go to this, "I Want My Country Back." That was last weekend in Nashville.
Would that have happened with another Democratic president? I want my country back?
KATHLEEN PARKER, WASHINGTON POST: I think so, Chris, and I so agree with what Rick said. I mean, of course there is a racial element any time you
have this conversation there's going to be a certain percentage. But, by the way, in January 75 percent of voters approved of Barack Obama, and they
didn't, that percentage didn't suddenly become racists. So, there's something else at work, and when they say, "I want my country back," they're
talking about this great anxiety that's widespread about the rapid growth of government, the growing debt and deficits, you know, this healthcare
program that's so huge and incomprehensible to most. So, when they want their country back, they're not saying, "We want white America back." I
don't think, I think that's a stretch. They're saying, "We want to remain a constitutionally sound country." And they're in doubt about
Forget the fact Democrats used that EXACT slogan in the 2004 campaign, Chris thinks its racist! Fortunately, his guest didn't agree. So, on to the
MATTHEWS: This existential question is about should he be president, that this rage we're seeing and these rallies, you think it would be
there with Hillary if she were president?
DAVID BROOKS, NEW YORK TIMES: Yeah, I do. I mean, what Rush and Glenn Beck are doing, that's just race-baiting. 100 percent, that's
race-baiting. But if you take a longer view what we're seeing now is what we've seen before in American history with Father Coughlin, William
Jennings Bryan, with Andrew Jackson, Huey Long. It's a populist uprising of mostly rural people who think the moral backbone of this country comes
from people who work with their hands, who are extremely suspicious when you get government power fusing with banking power which is a lot of what
they've seen over the past few weeks. And so there, there, they would be upset if Washington merged with Wall Street the auto industry, the energy
sector, the health care industry, and if a bunch of what they saw as overeducated people were leading the country. They'd be upset whether it was
Hillary, whether it was John Kerry or whether it was Barack Obama whether it was anybody.
Matthews finally got someone to agree and notice who it is? David Brooks, the left wing's favorite "conservative".
]HELENE COOPER, NEW YORK TIMES: I disagree with you guys, I think race plays as huge part of what we're seeing. I'm looking at, you
know, the, the, what you just described about the rural, the rural south and rural people who were afraid, I mean you didn't see that when George
Bush was in power and he's the ultimate elitist.
[edit on 23-9-2009 by Wimbly]