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posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by prettyflowers
then forced death vaccinations to kill off up to 50 billion in u.s.a.


All this time I thought the population of the entire planet was around
6.7 billion.

World Population

The US comes in a smidge over 300 million.

US population

The death goal was carved in stone about 30 years ago.

6.2 billion to die by new age 10 commandments

I do not know the country specific goals, but I expect anyone
who resists what they plan will be killed and that will likely be
most of the Christians.

78% of USA are Christian affiliated

You can find more of the NWO goals and propaganda in their hit
pieces called Eco Science ( in part written by our current science czar ),
Limits to Growth, and of course the aforementioned Guidestones.

So a little over 90% population reduction is the goal.

Ppl in other countries have read these posts on here and word has
spread and some ppl who wield power from the shadows are
getting ready for these acts of idiocy.

Some of these ppl in the shadows do not agree with the big die off.

Their will be surprises for all, and thus why my plan is to just get
the hell out of the way while all the various factions do what they
do best and that is destroy the earth and each other.

Just like it has been going on for thousands of years.

History does not shine favorably on us.

Good Luck to you all !




posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by Ms.Skies
Open your mind and be receptive to differeing opinions, if you are only closed off to yourself... well then that's just a very sad, very small little world, and people who live in isolation aren't typically the people others look up to and respect. Come out of your cave and explore a bit...


See? There seems to be a base breakdown in communication, people talk AT each other instead of TO. You are saying exactly what I was getting at; that everyone seems to have closed themselves off to others points of view; everyone wants to just exclaim how they feel over and over and damn what anyone else thinks.

This upsets me, I try hard to evaluate and understand where people are coming from when their views contradict my own. By expressing that it upsets me when people go out of their way not to do this, I end up being told I've closed myself off, I'm isolated, and in a metaphorical cave.



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by Ex_MislTech
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I really wonder how many ppl on ATS are working for the NWO
with posts like this ?

We know we got a few NWO shills on here.

Growth is a problem, no doubt in that.

The easy answer is "kill off the useless eaters" for some of the Elite.

The problem is, what if you just aborted Einstein or Hawking ?

Due to greed, control, and a myriad of other mental illnesses we
have refused to step up to the solutions we have for all out problems.

Peak Oil is negated by the fact that we can grow our own oil via
vertical hydroponic systems developed by valcent.

These so called water shortages are due to poor management of resources.

Do we need to filter and chemical treat our water before it goes
down our toilets ? Water our lawns ? Wash our cars ? Etc etc.

This could be solved with rain barrels or cisterns and catchment.

We need clean water to drink, bath, and cook with is roughly it.

On to the food issue, Bio Dynamic Agriculture and Vertical Hydroponics
could feed roughly 20 times the ppl we have now, and with no oil
based fertilizers.

On the power issue...

The Sahara Desert alone has enough solar thermal power to provide
all the power needs for the entire planet a few times over.

The Antarctic current has over 100 times the flow of all the rivers
in the world and undersea shrouded turbines would provide safe
clean power 24 hours a day.

There are other currents in other places of the world with flows
greater than all the rivers in the world.

In the central US there is a Wind corridor that would provide all the
electrical needs for the US and pump water to higher elevations for
stored power effect like a mechanical battery.

Thorium can be used in special nuclear reactors and is much more
abundant than uranium, though nuclear power would be my last choice.

1% of the Jet Stream could replace all forms of energy on the entire planet.

This over population myth is just a well contrived excuse to bring
Eugenics like has been tried throughout history many many times.

The seeds of operation paperclip are bearing their bitter harvest.

If 10% of what was spent on Sports, Religion, and Entertainment
were spent to better the planet we would live in a paradise that man
has not even dreamed.

But instead we will spend Trillions on killing each over oil that
we know how to grow via algae.

Someone has a dark agenda, and we are its victims.

Good Luck to you all !

[edit on 22-9-2009 by Ex_MislTech]


Are you kiddiing, NWO, dark agenda?

Some people like to ask tough questions, that is what ATS is about, some people like to discuss hard questions. it doesn't make me a bad person or a tool for the NWO!

Who said abortion, who said killing off people, you need to grow up dude!

Then if you really are an ex missile tech I assume you can read, you have to read peoples OP's properly, don't just react to the title!





[edit on 22-9-2009 by kiwifoot]



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by D.E.M.
Personally, and I am going to get shot down for this I know, I support the view of the world as set forth by the Georgia Guidestones.


Just so ppl know what this creature supports.

The Georgia Guidestones

The new age 10 commandments derived from Limits to Growth,
and Eco Science.

The excrement of the minds of The Club of Rome, Committee of 300,
Trilateral Commission, and the Bilderberg Group.

These will be the two sides of the coming World Wide Civil War,
and the defenders of the ppl are deep deep asleep mostly.

Only in the 11th hour when the axe of the NWO and New Age ppl is
looming sharp and bright and in motion toward the neck of the the
good ppl of the earth will ppl see the spawn of the operation paperclip
crowd for what they are.

I do not claim the catholic church as the good ppl, great horrors has
been done in its name.

I think it will be far too late by the time the ppl wake up to what has
been prepared in the background that we get clues from like all
the murdered micro biologists.

Thus again why my plan is to bug out and hide out while the world once
again attempts to destroy itself, as it has so many times before.

Good Luck to you all !



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 04:32 PM
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Originally posted by prettyflowers
here's my rough summary of the near future.

october..maybe the 11th..d.c. nuke...

then forced death vaccinations to kill off up to 50 billion in u.s.a.

in all 194 countries....a total of 2 billion dead by spring time using re-engineered 1918 flu.

then this will be the start of ww3.

israel and iran will go at it.

china and russia will invade u.s.a. and orderly exterminate the rest of the elderly and 18 to 36 folks. the children will be spared because they are programmable.

the entire world will erupt into chaos, disease, war, and mass death.

a few ..maybe 3 or 4 nukes altogether will be used during all of ww3 because they are militarily useless. the production is all deep underground now and using nukes is pointless.

this will all be over by 2020 and the world restructering and clean up will begin.



and the roman catholic church will again re invent themselves from thier new world order command central that will be located in israel on top of the foundation to solomons temple.

long live the papacy! the emporers of earth!



L.O.L

Funniest post I have ever seen on ATS ,LOL 50 BILLION KILLED OFF IN USA ALONE

AHAHAHAHHAH 50 BILLION

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

that's what you actually believe XFD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 04:33 PM
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The Georgia Guidestones state to "maintain" population below 500 million, and they were designed for a "post apocalyptic" scenario. Nowhere on those stones does it say to reduce population to 500 million, or to kill 90% of the population!

In addition, NWO does not want to reduce population, because we are their slave race. They need us building their wealth for them! If they reduce the population, then the are no longer "elite".

If anyone is pushing for population reduction, I would look at the "green" activists, and animal rights orgs! They would rather protect koala's and pandas, and whales, than humans!!

Southern California is fighting for its life right now, because the water supply was shut off to save a certain fish! Farmland is dried up, people are losing jobs, the Fed Govt did exactly what they were scared terrorists would do just a couple of years ago!!

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posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 04:34 PM
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reply to post by getreadyalready
 


All I can tell you is that I am most deff AGAINST the NWO...



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 04:34 PM
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reply to post by Ex_MislTech
 




The excrement of the minds of The Club of Rome, Committee of 300,
Trilateral Commission, and the Bilderberg Group.


And apparently of many members here which I am shocked to see. One expects this of psychopaths, but for 'normal' people to be advocating eugenics, depopulation etc is just depressing in the extreme.



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by maus80

Originally posted by Ms.Skies
Open your mind and be receptive to differeing opinions, if you are only closed off to yourself... well then that's just a very sad, very small little world, and people who live in isolation aren't typically the people others look up to and respect. Come out of your cave and explore a bit...


See? There seems to be a base breakdown in communication, people talk AT each other instead of TO. You are saying exactly what I was getting at; that everyone seems to have closed themselves off to others points of view; everyone wants to just exclaim how they feel over and over and damn what anyone else thinks.


This is the smoke before the fire, the closing down of discussion.

The time of action is coming soon.

The millions of firearms sold in a matter of a few months.

The billions of rounds of ammunition.

Some are just waiting for that critical mistake and the hammer will fall.

Make your plans to head away from the cities if you want to be safe.

My plan is to bugout and get away from the cities.

I am sitting this dance out.

Good Luck to you all !



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by Ex_MislTech

Originally posted by D.E.M.
Personally, and I am going to get shot down for this I know, I support the view of the world as set forth by the Georgia Guidestones.


Just so ppl know what this creature supports.

The Georgia Guidestones

The new age 10 commandments derived from Limits to Growth,
and Eco Science.

The excrement of the minds of The Club of Rome, Committee of 300,
Trilateral Commission, and the Bilderberg Group.

These will be the two sides of the coming World Wide Civil War,
and the defenders of the ppl are deep deep asleep mostly.

Only in the 11th hour when the axe of the NWO and New Age ppl is
looming sharp and bright and in motion toward the neck of the the
good ppl of the earth will ppl see the spawn of the operation paperclip
crowd for what they are.

I do not claim the catholic church as the good ppl, great horrors has
been done in its name.

I think it will be far too late by the time the ppl wake up to what has
been prepared in the background that we get clues from like all
the murdered micro biologists.

Thus again why my plan is to bug out and hide out while the world once
again attempts to destroy itself, as it has so many times before.

Good Luck to you all !


Be quiet, the Guidstones have already been severely defaced with threats to the NWO, such as "DEATH TO THE NWO!" and "DON'T TREAD ON ME".

It's not going to happen, a 500k steady population will NEVER happen. Do you understand me?



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by maus80

Originally posted by Ms.Skies
Open your mind and be receptive to differeing opinions, if you are only closed off to yourself... well then that's just a very sad, very small little world, and people who live in isolation aren't typically the people others look up to and respect. Come out of your cave and explore a bit...


See? There seems to be a base breakdown in communication, people talk AT each other instead of TO. You are saying exactly what I was getting at; that everyone seems to have closed themselves off to others points of view; everyone wants to just exclaim how they feel over and over and damn what anyone else thinks.

This upsets me, I try hard to evaluate and understand where people are coming from when their views contradict my own. By expressing that it upsets me when people go out of their way not to do this, I end up being told I've closed myself off, I'm isolated, and in a metaphorical cave.


Well then if that's the case, I misunderstood your post, and I do apologize... am glad we're on the same page now.



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by kiwifoot
Originally posted by Ex_MislTech
reply to post by kiwifoot
 


Are you kiddiing, NWO, dark agenda?

Some people like to ask tough questions, that is what ATS is about, some people like to discuss hard questions. it doesn't make me a bad person or a tool for the NWO!

Who said abortion, who said killing off people, you need to grow up dude!

Then if you really are an ex missile tech I assume you can read, you have to read peoples OP's properly, don't just react to the title!



No, I am not kidding.

The complete idiot's guide to the NWO

I am fully grown, I have my fair share of grey hair.

That RADAR I worked on for years while at Sea is the
AN/SPG-55B mod 10 Guide Missile RADAR system.

I am not reacting to just the title, but I am reacting to the fact you
have been swayed by the stealthy message of a group of ppl
that have brain washed most of the public via the TV and lies.

Watch the video and you may begin to understand.

Odds are if you have not figured it out yet, there is nothing I can
say that will wake you from their mesmerizing methods.

Good Luck to you all !

[edit on 22-9-2009 by Ex_MislTech]



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 04:45 PM
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In addition, NWO does not want to reduce population, because we are their slave race. They need us building their wealth for them! If they reduce the population, then the are no longer "elite".


Oh yes they do.... try reading this as one example.



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posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by Hazelnut
reply to post by maus80
 


You may be right and I may be delusional. I still believe that under the right circumstances, people are not hopeless fools and are able to self regulate.


Not saying you are delusional but in a past conversation with you you showed me that you say one thing- and when called on it- say you didnt say it- take that as you will

People are indeed hopeless fools- think Africa where they just keep on breeding when AIDS is so prevelant and there is no food- kids dying of AIDS and starving to death - it doesnt make sense- they just keep bringing more and more children into that mess.

To the OP my answer is NO, I believe one day we will work it out- how to sustain life without bankrupting our planet.



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 04:48 PM
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yes I know the video, thank you for attempting to educate me, I do appreciate it actually.

But I am aware who the enemy is, from my OP:



The real question is this - As we approach this uncertain time of Swine Flu and its vaccine, wars and the NWO threats of depopulation, would it be wiser to accept this OPEN and gradual form of depopulation, rather than succumb to an apocalyptic scenario of disease and war?

We'd all (myself included) like to believe that when the time comes we will fight the good fight and stick it to them, but is this realistic and even possible? Would it be better to and turn the tide of our bulging population voluntarily now rather than have it force on us through disease and mass depopulation?


Why are you in such a rush for war and apocalypse huh? if you know there is a war coming (not military war) and you know the enemy's plans, that gives you a chance to outwit them.

Oh ad for the record, from a later post:



No mate, lets get this out!

No FORCED giving up of CHILDREN
No FORCED sterilisation
No KILLING or HARMING
NOT DEPOPULATION by any other means except slowing down the rate of POPULATION, by an OPEN one maybe TWO Child policy



See, no sinister agenda, eugenics or mass killing, just a desire not to destroy the planet, and keep something for my great grand kids, yeah, I'm a really bad person!

[edit on 22-9-2009 by kiwifoot]



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 04:50 PM
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"Be quiet, the Guidstones have already been severely defaced with threats to the NWO, such as "DEATH TO THE NWO!" and "DON'T TREAD ON ME".

It's not going to happen, a 500k steady population will NEVER happen. Do you understand me? "

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Telling me to "Be Quiet" ?

I think I understand you VERY well.

I think you treat ppl like they are your children.

Denial is one of the 5 stages in a well known process.

The 5 stages of grief

I to have grief for the loss of the US, but it is far far too late and
we have let the country fall under the control of the same ppl
that killed JFK in Dallas.

The game is almost at its conclusion, and all that evil has to do is
convince good men to do nothing.

And we have done nothing very well indeed.

The game is almost over.

Good Luck to you all !



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 04:56 PM
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You are not as evil as the NWO folks, your method is less forceful.

But none the less the slow gradual shift to their plan is how it
has been progressing for many years now.

I say that we can drop fossil fuels and have room for triple the
population we have now, but it will require changing the way we live.

Ppl do not like change, and ppl are largely asleep.

The NWO is very far along in their game and I do not see the ppl
waking up, and ppl like us can only really talk about solutions
as we have little power to do otherwise.

The outcome is already in the works.

The NWO is going to win, and all of our discussions will not
amount to a hill of beans in the aftermath.

There will be a hell of a fight, but the NWO folks are ready for it.

The ppl simply are not.

Good Luck to you all !




[edit on 22-9-2009 by Ex_MislTech]



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 04:58 PM
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I can't believe what I am reading. Many of you who have talked about how our rights are being systematically taken away (example: forced vaccinations, ect..) are now in favor of some morbid depopulation program? " One or Two kids only." Now you want the government to control that aspect of our freedom too?

Why stop there? Maybe they should have the power to tell us when and how often we can f*ck too.

Here is a way you can help us with the population problem, go get yourself in line for the swine flu vaccine. Maybe it willl turn out to be some depopulation program by the government.

Pardon my harsh reaction. I will be the first to admit that are SO MANY kids in this world who are homeless, unwanted, or abused. I was one of them myself! But I think a more appropriate way to handle the situation would be some sort of incentive program for having either zero, one or two children, rather than forcing a new law. And even that is pushing it cause next they will have all kinds of incentive programs for getting your RFID chip implant as well. Get my point? Besides, forced abortions and dead baby girls laying around in the street is not my idea of a success!

My point is simply this: why do we keep handing our rights to them? When will it stop? Why do we give them our freedom every day, and then sit around on ATS complaining about the government forcing vaccinations, and chip implants, and their agendas on us?



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 05:02 PM
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Because it is easier to vent than to take action. Are you going to do anything about it tomorrow? Are you going to get a group together, storm your state capitol, and burn it? Are you going to raid a bank and shoot the CEO's? are you going to hold people accountable in a way that actually matters?

Or are you going to go to work, go home and eat dinner, take pleasure in your life and then vent your frustrations here, possibly sign a meaningless petition or two, and go to sleep.

Hell you might even go wave a sign at a rally while the ones in power look on smugly, knowing that until you take route A you mean nothing to them.

Now you know the answer to your question. Or, since the answer was so obvious, was the question rhetorical?



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by PolarityHorizon
I can't believe what I am reading. Many of you who have talked about how our rights are being systematically taken away (example: forced vaccinations, ect..) are now in favor of some morbid depopulation program? " One or Two kids only." Now you want the government to control that aspect of our freedom too?

Why stop there? Maybe they should have the power to tell us when and how often we can f*ck too.

Here is a way you can help us with the population problem, go get yourself in line for the swine flu vaccine. Maybe it willl turn out to be some depopulation program by the government.

Pardon my harsh reaction. I will be the first to admit that are SO MANY kids in this world who are homeless, unwanted, or abused. I was one of them myself! But I think a more appropriate way to handle the situation would be some sort of incentive program for having either zero, one or two children, rather than forcing a new law. And even that is pushing it cause next they will have all kinds of incentive programs for getting your RFID chip implant as well. Get my point? Besides, forced abortions and dead baby girls laying around in the street is not my idea of a success!

My point is simply this: why do we keep handing our rights to them? When will it stop? Why do we give them our freedom every day, and then sit around on ATS complaining about the government forcing vaccinations, and chip implants, and their agendas on us?




Ah the typical response to what is a hard question. But nobody said forced abortion, nobody said anywhere anything about dead baby girls or RFID chips!

You need to READ, god i am so sick of people going off the deep end!

Read the OP!

OH and FYI- you can still have sex as often as you like and not have kids, man you are showing your age!





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