Cancer Cured in Canada, But Big Pharma Says NO WAY!

I bet every single person knows someone close who has died of cancer. I bet much fewer know anyone who has survived cancer.

Its crazy these days. People dying young, like 30's and 40's. I dont know the figures, but i think its pretty bad here in new zealand.

I think in my own opinion, you have to look at the amount of complete S**T that is in almost everything we eat, drink and put on our bodies for a start.

Im not saying every cancer case is because of this, but you have to look at the way of life here. Majorities are so concerned with there appearance (from ridiculous ages thanks to magazines and TV) that they slap all kinds of chemicals on their skin morning noon and night.

also, look at the stress in the world. everyone is stressed to the max about their jobs, their families, their income etc etc etc.......

I believe this makes a huge difference to the body. Every time i have a very stressful week at work, i always come down with flues and colds. it definatly affects us.

As for cures, well, yes many people can flame me if they want, but i think there are herds of hypocrites when it comes to shooting down the pharma companies. (hell, i ve even done it myself)

Pharma this, pharma that... they lie, they just make big $$$... but hey, remember this next time you are crawling to the toilet vomiting and sweating and aching with sever flu.....WILL you go to the medicine cabinet or to your nearest pharmacy for some drugs.

I believe a variety of cures are out there for certain kinds of cancer , yes. Some may work for some, and some may work for others. Either way, you most likely wont have time to try more than 1 or 2.

If you choose the right way for you and you make it, then hats off to you big time. for the time being you are in the minority.

Howvere, i really think within our livetimes, we shall have a cure for cancer from the Pharma companies.

but that doesnt mean to say, we may have other serious diseases that pop up and threaten us too.

g.

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As someone who has had three surgeries (minor) to remove skin cancer I have many friends who send me info whenever they get something that I may be interested in. A couple of days ago I got this...,I am not saying "it can cure cancer" but I did think it was worth looking into and posting here! Does anyone have any more info?


ARTICLE:

"Several years ago, I had a man seeking asparagus for a friend who had cancer. He gave me a photocopied copy of an article,entitled, `Asparagus for cancer' printed in Cancer News Journal, December 1979.
I will share it here, just as it was shared with me: 'I am a biochemist and have specialized in the relation of diet to health for over 50 years.
Several years ago, I learned of the discovery of Richard R. Vensal, D.D.S. That asparagus might cure cancer. Since then, I have worked with him on his project. We have accumulated a number of favourable case histories.
Here are a few examples:
Case No. 1,
A man with an almost hopeless case of Hodgkin's disease (cancer of the lymph glands) who was completely incapacitated. Within 1 year of starting the asparagus therapy, his doctors were unable to detect any signs of cancer, and he was back on a schedule of strenuous exercise.
Case No. 2,
A successful businessman 68 years old who suffered from cancer of the bladder for 16 years. After years of medical treatments, including radiation without improvement, he went on asparagus. Within 3 months, examinations revealed that his bladder tumor had disappeared and that his kidneys were normal.
Case No. 3,
A man who had lung cancer. On March 5th 1971, he was put on the operating table where they found lung cancer so widely spread that it was inoperable. The surgeon sewed him up and declared his case hopeless. On April 5th he heard about the asparagus therapy and immediately started taking it. By August, x-ray pictures revealed that all signs of the cancer had disappeared. He is back at his regular business routine. *
*Case No. 4,
A woman who was troubled for a number of years with skin cancer. She finally developed different skin cancers which were diagnosed by asking specialist as advanced. Within 3 months after starting on asparagus, her skin specialist said that her skin looked fine and no more skin lesions. This woman reported that the asparagus therapy also cured her kidney disease, which started in 1949. She had over 10 operations for kidney stones, and was receiving government disability payments for an inoperable, terminal, kidney condition. She attributes the cure of this kidney trouble entirely to the asparagus.
I was not surprised at this result, as `The elements of Materia Medica', edited in 1854 by a Professor at the University of Pennsylvania stated that asparagus was used as a popular remedy for kidney stones. He even referred to experiments, in 1739, on the power of asparagus in dissolving stones.

We would have other case histories but the medical establishment has interfered with our obtaining some of the records. I am therefore appealing to readers to spread this good news and help us to gather a large number of case histories that will overwhelm the medical skeptics about this unbelievably simple and natural remedy. For the treatment, asparagus should be cooked before using, and therefore canned asparagus is just as good as fresh.
I have corresponded with the two leading canners of asparagus, Giant Giant and Stokely, and I am satisfied that these brands contain no pesticides or preservatives.
* * PROCEDURE:
1) Place the cooked asparagus in a blender and liquefy to make a puree, and store in the refrigerator.
2) Give the patient 4 full tablespoons twice daily, morning and evening.
Patients usually show some improvement in from 2-4 weeks. It can be diluted with water and used as a cold or hot drink. This suggested dosage is based on present experience, but certainly larger amounts can do no harm and may be needed in some cases.
As a biochemist I am convinced of the old saying that `what cures can prevent'. Based on this theory, my wife and I have been using asparagus puree as a beverage with our meals. We take 2 tablespoons diluted in water to suit our taste with breakfast and with dinner. I take mine hot and my wife prefers hers cold.
For years we have made it a practice to have blood surveys taken as part of our regular checkups.
The last blood survey, taken by a medical doctor who specializes in the nutritional approach to health, showed substantial improvements in all categories over the last one, and we can attribute these improvements to nothing but the asparagus drink...
As a biochemist, I have made an extensive study of all aspects of cancer, and all of the proposed cures. As a result, I am convinced that asparagus fits in better with the latest theories about cancer. Asparagus contains a good supply of protein called histones, which are believed to be active in controlling cell growth. For that reason, I believe asparagus can be said to contain a substance that I call cell growth normalizer. That accounts for its action on cancer and in acting as a general body tonic. In any event, regardless of theory, asparagus used as we suggest, is a harmless substance.
The FDA cannot prevent you from using it and it may do you much good. It has been reported by the US National Cancer Institute, that asparagus is the highest tested food containing glutathione, which is considered one of the body's most potent anticarcinogens and antioxidants.
Please spread the news...
... the most unselfish act one can ever do is paying forward all the kindness one has received even to the most undeserved person *

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www.snopes.com...

There is no backup for any of the anecdotes.


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Thanks Phage, although that news is rather depressing, I was hoping otherwise!

is there another video? Youtube has pulled the link. I got the Gerson Therapy link but I'd like to locate more info on the original source. Cheers mate.

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nope sorry been looking all over its been pulled from everywhere even some peoples articles on it have been pulled,veary weird

Originally posted by zooplancton
sorry, but don't poo-poo on natural cures. they exist. period.
and they work.

There may be some natural therapies, and they may work some of the time.
Ask Linus Pauling about Vitamin C
Ask Steve McQueen about Laetrile.

I'm still having trouble getting even ONE first-person account about how alternative therapies cured them. Not their Mom (though I'm happy for you both), not some guys on the web...but themselves.

It's not like getting one first-person ATS testimonial will change the debate all that much, but I'm using it as a yardstick. Here you have a group of 174,270 members, by nature of the site, open to alternative means, and I have thrown this challenge out before. Not one first-person response. However, there are a number of survivors that have gone the cut/burn/poison path and are here to tell about it.

I tempered my treatment with complementary medicine...to which my evil oncologist...part of the Big Health/Pharma conspiracy to kill me...commented "It can't hurt".

The bottom line here is that y'all can do what you want to do, but anybody who is told that they will be cured by conventional means...and yes, that's precisely the word used to me...and goes the alternative route instead, is a fool.

And I flashed my OHIP card...and the only charge was for parking.

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by GORGANTHIUM
If i came up with a complete cure of cancer tomorrow they would be a good chance i would be dead within 24 hours.Maybe suicide or a accident.My cure would have vanished and the drug companies would sigh a great sign of releife knowing there empire was still safe.

That's poop. I know cancer researchers personally. They devote their lives to finding treatments. People like them came up with the one that cured me.

Anybody who has a shot with conventional therapy and turns it down is a fool.

Why would they tell their commercial secrets to YOU?

Seems you are suffering self delusion.

They have to sign confidentiality and secrecy clauses.

Knowing someone personally means nothing.

Devoted entire lives? With squat to show for it.
50 years and billions of dollars and still the same crap chemo.

Every other field shows huge leaps and advances but not cancer cure.Stays the same.

[edit on 23-9-2009 by beckybecky]

Originally posted by beckybecky

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by GORGANTHIUM
If i came up with a complete cure of cancer tomorrow they would be a good chance i would be dead within 24 hours.Maybe suicide or a accident.My cure would have vanished and the drug companies would sigh a great sign of releife knowing there empire was still safe.

That's poop. I know cancer researchers personally. They devote their lives to finding treatments. People like them came up with the one that cured me.

Anybody who has a shot with conventional therapy and turns it down is a fool.

Why would they tell their commercial secrets to YOU?

Seems you are suffering self delusion.

They have to sign confidentiality and secrecy clauses.

Knowing someone personally means nothing.

Devoted entire lives? With squat to show for it.
50 years and billions of dollars and still the same crap chemo.

Every other field shows huge leaps and advances but not cancer cure.Stays the same.

[edit on 23-9-2009 by beckybecky]

I guess they pulled the video because they want the truth to come out, right?

The whole cancer thing is an explanation for deliberate poisoning, lining the pockets of those in the know.

There will never be a cure with the current systems in place. Change is coming.

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change is coming,i really like that statement it needs to change and i hope your right king i really do.

Ok I need to put my .02 cents in. I was diagnosed with acute lymphoblastic leukemia in October of 2007. If it wasn't for my oncologist immediately starting me on a very strong chemotherapy course I would not be here now. Yes the chemo almost killed me initally, but thanks to his foresight I am still in remission. My rant here is that so many people are too quick to spout their opinions on something they know little to nothing about. Until you walk a mile in someone shoes you have no right to judge.

Originally posted by beckybecky

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by GORGANTHIUM
If i came up with a complete cure of cancer tomorrow they would be a good chance i would be dead within 24 hours.Maybe suicide or a accident.My cure would have vanished and the drug companies would sigh a great sign of releife knowing there empire was still safe.

That's poop. I know cancer researchers personally. They devote their lives to finding treatments. People like them came up with the one that cured me.

Anybody who has a shot with conventional therapy and turns it down is a fool.

Why would they tell their commercial secrets to YOU?
Seems you are suffering self delusion.
They have to sign confidentiality and secrecy clauses.
Knowing someone personally means nothing.
Devoted entire lives? With squat to show for it.
50 years and billions of dollars and still the same crap chemo.
Every other field shows huge leaps and advances but not cancer cure.Stays the same.

Why would they tell their secrets to me? Do you think it's some kind of kabal hidden away under a mountain? This work is done in hospitals and universities. By everyday average people. Sure it's an industry...but if there's a cover-up, I'd say it's in the triggers.

"With squat to show for it?...the same crap chemo?" Nonsense...you are embarrassing yourself. Please take a really good look around and you'll see new therapies, drugs...no magic bullet but much more effective treatment.

And for every statement that blueberries and pomegranates are effective in fighting prostate cancer, there is a huge amount of research and testing. That's to make sure it ain't just voodoo.

Look at Zyflamend...currently in clinical trials. A good example of an alternative medicine working its way through the system by providing actual results. As opposed to what somebody on the internet told me.

But, dig...Cancer kills. Every one saved is a victory.

Seems you are suffering self delusion

You think so? I'll tell you, one thing I'm not suffering is cancer. Because of radiation treatment.

Holy smokes i just watch the video last night and now its gone. Its not like the video was new it was an older story. Come on it was CTV news they aren't strict on terms of use you can find tons of their videos online.

Either way the video is still up under a different name.



Go ahead and post this in at the front of the thread.

It's all about MONEY Folks! I would say the ultimate culprit would be the Bankers. Think of the billions out on loan to all the cancer facilities for buildings and medical equipment, all the personnel, all the student loans, if there was a simple cure you could buy off the shelf at Walgreen's your would destroy the Cancer Money Making Machine overnight. How about the American Cancer Society, they've been around for a hundred years now, do they want a cure, not hardly, those people who have made their living scamming contributions for decades would be out of jobs. Then you have the Drug Companies, the loans they have, the personnel, equipment, the loss of a perpetuating segment of their business if a simple cure was found. Don't count on the FDA, they're owned by the Bankers, Big Pharma, the Lawyers, the Politicians and the Lobbyists. The very wealthy at the top have denied us our health, free energy and a easier way of life all to fill their own pockets. Think what we'd be paying for Health Insurance if a simple cure were found.

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The Gerson cancer cure is a popular alternative cure. Supposedly it has had dramatic results.

Basically it all breaks down to this: IS your body Alkaline or Acidic. You can buy Ph strips at whole foods for relatively cheap that tells you where your bodies PH levels are at. Cancer cannot live in a highly alkaline environment. So alternative treatment is based on making your body highly alkaline. You do this with a totally plant based diet. Cultures where animal products are their main source of nutrition often have high cancer rates among many other diseases. Cultures on plant based diets, which are usually poorer countries, often have the healthiest people. Eating very little of high quality plant based organic foods often gives people long ,healthy lives free of diseases and sickness.
Arnold Ehret considered the father of Naturopathy, Stanley Burroughs and Paul C. Bragg are proponents of this lifestyle among many others . Supposedly Paul C. Bragg cured his tuberculosis with fasting and a plant based diet at a alternative wellness center. Arnold Ehret has a similar story of going from sickness to superb health through this regimen.

Did you Know: EVERYBODY HAS CANCER. EVERYBODY.

The difference between people that get cancer and the people that don’t is the strength of that person’s immune system. The immune system is the only cure for cancer. Your Immune system has to be strong enough to kill and fight the diseased cells. That’s why it makes little sense, to me anyways, that you would do treatments like chemo and radiation that weaken the immune system. 5% of chemo patience’s survive the treatment. It kills the cancer but also kills your immune system to the point you have no energy to regain your health. It is best to take preventive measures instead of waiting till you get sick. Start drinking and eating organic foods and leave out meats, dairy and breads. Products like breads take forever to digest and sap your energy. Digestion takes up ¾ of your body’s energy that is why it is good to eat easily digestible foods for optimal well-being and health. This is tough to do at first, but with discipline you can make the transition relatively easy. This is what I do. I take some lettuce, one carrot, one piece of celery, one apple, flax seeds and throw all that in a blender with ice. You can use any vegetables you want. Keep the fruit at a minimum. Fruit is like the energy drinks of the past, it is what they used for quick energy without the crash. I blend this all together with some plant based protein powder from whole foods. (10$ or 15$ for the powder) . It makes like 40 oz. I use a whole tray of ice to make it thick. This highly alkalizes the body AND IT VERY EASY TO DIGEST. It’s a smoothie that last for breakfast and lunch. My energy levels are through the roof and mentally the fog clears up. I still eat the occasional organic meat and what not. But I just take some counteractive measures to keep me feeling great. You will notice how certain foods really make you sluggish and mentally slow. This is motivation to stay healthy and that leads you to have energy whenever you want it. You will be able to get more done in a day than you ever thought possible.

Blood flow comes from the gut and in times of high stress the blood flow is cut off or squeezed to a minimum. When this happens we stop growing and maturing. So in times of high stress if we don’t learn to relax we are actually inhibiting growth and sabotaging ourselves. Keeping us from actually solving the problem.reply to post by spacemanLive


Someone should start a thread about hypertension and stress. These are the number one killers and are very anonymous.
I think that technology has caused this hyper awareness which causes massive stress.
Stress is the number one killer.
Our cortisone levels have to be extremely high compared to people of the past.
Blood flow comes from the gut and in times of high stress the blood flow is cut off or squeezed to a minimum. When this happens we stop growing and maturing. So in times of high stress if we don’t learn to relax we are actually inhibiting growth and sabotaging ourselves. Keeping us from actually solving the problem. Maybe that is why the news plays horror and grief all day. It is inhibiting the growth of humankind and keeping us from reaching our true potential.
Just my 0.2$

Originally posted by spacemanLive
It is best to take preventive measures instead of waiting till you get sick.

Bingo! Frankly, I'm really quite certain that there are a number of environmental factors at work, as well, but a healthy diet surely lessens the chances of falling ill.

[edit on 23-9-2009 by JohnnyCanuck]

Gerson Cancer cureAlkalize Or Diereply to post by spacemanLive


Here are two links to two websites that promote alternative natural methods.
The Gerson website says right on their homepage that they have healed cancer and many other incurable diseases through the natural process.
People are waking up to how these giant corporations are destroying us. I have done allot of research about alternative healing. My aunt died of breast cancer. She was a very spiritual woman who went through hell from the treatments of western medicine and died what i feel like was a slow, miserable death. How could such a Godly person die such a harsh death is what i thought at the time. It is best to take preventive measures even if you dont believe in natural healing. Chemo is Hell.

Here is some information about DCA:

www.thedcasite.com...