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reply posted on 22-9-2009 @ 08:40 AM by Psyagra
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Now that's the best speculation I've heard so far ... !!! That makes so much sense and for the moment, I am holding onto that one with both hands until proven otherwise.

Makes entry on cell phone and Outlook to remind me to stay away from these places during the 2010 World Cup ... coz I'm bound to forget ... as I'm sure most others will forget about today's events by that time ... then it will be: "Hey what happened and how could we have planted these things while people were working in and around the sites?"

Slaps star on Whatshenneping's forehead

Edited for punctuation ...

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reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 01:17 AM by harryhaller
Well no surprises, he lied, it's NOT under control.

NEWS24

Johannesburg - The US Embassy and other American offices in South Africa will remain closed for a second day on Wednesday after closing on Tuesday because of unspecified security concerns, US and South African officials said.

"We are not discussing the nature of the information," she said.

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This is very arb. They are apparently very concerned people, yet there is nothing else in the news that may suggest a reason. I don't see it related to any of the other world events (Iran, or even Somalia for that)
The only idea i do have is the recent vist by, Mrs Clinton, where a US base was spoken about. Is this going to be the catalyst for urgent deployment of US troops?


reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 02:21 AM by harryhaller
I think i've found it:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Pakistan Raids US Embassy Security Firm

That hits my buttons. All of them.

Oh, and also another thread by Warrenb, about the ISI chief admitting all sorts on a video. (can't find the link - still looking)

Here it is: www.abovetopsecret.com...

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reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 03:38 AM by Psyagra
Bolded by OP ...


U.S. State Department spokesman Ian Kelly said the threat was "pretty credible information" against U.S. government facilities in South Africa, the continent's biggest economy.

South Africa, due to host the soccer World Cup next year, is not itself seen as a target for attacks. Hudson-Dean said it was the first time in a decade the offices had been closed due to a security threat.

Somali rebels have vowed to avenge last week's killing of one of the continent's most wanted al Qaeda suspects in a raid by U.S. commandos, but there has been no previous link between Somali insurgents and South Africa.

Bombings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 killed 224 people and wounded thousands.

"The embassy is tracking developments very closely and assessing its security posture and formulating an appropriate course of action," said Kelly.


Source Article ...

It makes total sense that they would 'target' the leading economy on the African continent ... and I don't mean 'they' as in potential terrorists ... I mean 'they' as in the US. The world doesn't really pay much attention to things happening in Northern Africa - but if something were to go down in South Africa, especially during the 2010 world cup, then all manner of wheels could be kicked into motion to further the NWO agenda on the African continent.

Remember that there is an ongoing tussle between the East and the West over Africa and with China already dictating to our government about who may or may not enter our country earlier this year (read Dalai Lama), you can be sure that the US would want to get a head start and foothold in "South Africa, the continent's biggest economy".



reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 05:07 AM by Psyagra

Right now, we are focused on supporting the Transitional Federal Government in Somalia against the threat of radical violent extremists, al-Shabaab, and their allies. The minister and I are well aware that al-Shabaab is recruiting young Somalis from South Africa, Australia, and the United States to become suicide bombers, to participate in their efforts to turn Somalia into a safe haven for terrorism, which the United States believes would not just threaten the Horn of Africa, but all of Africa and beyond. - Secretary Clinton


Source Article from www.state.gov

From my previous post ...


Somali rebels have vowed to avenge last week's killing of one of the continent's most wanted al Qaeda suspects in a raid by U.S. commandos, but there has been no previous link between Somali insurgents and South Africa.


So, on 22 September 2009, Reuters in the New York Times reports that there have been no previous links between Somali insurgents (al Qaeda?) and South Africa ... yet, scarcely a month and a half before that, Clinton says "The minister and I are well aware that al-Shabaab is recruiting young Somalis from South Africa, ..." !!


On February 29, 2008, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice designated al-Shabaab (aka al-Shabab, aka Shabaab, aka the Youth, aka Mujahidin al-Shabaab Movement, aka Mujahideen Youth Movement, aka Mujahidin Youth Movement, aka MYM, aka Harakat Shabab al-Mujahidin, aka Hizbul Shabaab, aka Hisb’ul Shabaab, aka al-Shabaab al-Islamiya, aka Youth Wing, aka al Shabaab al-Islaam, aka al-Shabaab al-Jihaad, aka the Unity of Islamic Youth) as a Foreign Terrorist Organization under Section 219 of the Immigration and Nationality Act.

Source Here ...



aka, aka, aka ... No wonder the terrorist's weapon of choice is an AK ... sorry, I couldn't resist



SECRETARY CLINTON: Let me just say that we discussed everything from the President’s views on regional issues from Zimbabwe to Somalia to Sudan to global issues like climate change. We had a broad-ranging, very substantive discussion and I greatly appreciated the President sharing with us his advice and suggestions about how we can make progress. We have the same goals for a peaceful, progressive, prosperous continent starting in southern Africa of course, but moving north, west and east and the President’s advice was extremely helpful to us.

QUESTION: Was there any discussion around the US having forward bases in South Africa?

SECRETARY CLINTON: There is no discussion of that. That has never been raised by any of us in any of our discussions. It’s not an issue.

Source here ...



I can't help wondering "How about now?"


reply posted on 23-9-2009 @ 06:02 AM by halfmanhalfamazing
On SABC news analyst, Henri Boshoff said

“According to them there is a real threat and possibly the information available to them is that it is so specific that it is about date - place and time and that's why they closed,”

That means that it was meant to probably happen yesterday. I am keeping my eye peeled for any info but it seems that we are still being kept in the dark as to what these threats are and whether they could affect the general public.

www.sabcnews.com... efault

In th article they mention that they could poissibly reopen the embassy later today... but then again... yesterday they also said "we have it under control" and that the offices would be open today (23 September). That never happened. I think we might be dealing with something bigger than we think! Why else would the government keep us in the dark, what possible motivation could there be??


reply posted on 25-9-2009 @ 12:56 AM by harryhaller
So the embassies are open again, after an "al qaeda" affiliated threat.

Sparked by a phone call, "pretty credible" they say.

IOL news:
IOL

News24: [url=http://www.news24.com/Content/SouthAfrica/News/1059/5bd760b3c44c44fbbe9b36d05cdac880/24-09-2009-11-03/Al-Qaeda_group_threatened_embassies]News24[ /url]

As per news24, reporting the Star newspaper:
The planned attacks were believed to be in response to last week's killing in Somalia of one of the continent's most wanted al Qaeda suspects in a raid by US commandos, the newspaper said.

But nothing further. No arrests cited, except everyone seems happy with each other, including the US Govt specifically thanking the South African Police Service (SAPS) Division: Crime Intelligence, for outstanding cooperation and support.

So as per the good guys, IT WAS THE SOMALIS. As per the Somalis, it wasn't them.

This STINKS of disinfo.


(edits: i hear you on the url formatting, but this id poofies, both done and appear exactly the same, until i hit submit. Using Opera, anyone else having issues with this?)
Sorry OP, i'm not getting this second URL right? Its a freaking pop-up box!!
Fo some reason, look where you close url, there's a space between [ and /url ... this is illogical, as there's no space in the preview?

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