Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh

Originally posted by TangoVooDoo

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1) Noah, his family and Lot and his are removed from the coming judgment of God so it fits that those removed in this period are also then saved from judgment.

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I disagree with you.

Noah was not removed. He had to go through the calamity, albeit, with God's help

The Israelites had to go through the plagues, but had God's help

God did not take Jesus away from the cross. He had to endure, with God's help.

God did not take Paul away from the Roman's, he had to endure, with God's help.


God will not take us away. We have to endure, with His help.

By Jesus I think he's got it!

Rapture is possible in revelations it talks of his children coming up. But we're to meant Jesus in the clouds I believe and I believe we help do battle with Satan. I need to read revelations again to know more.

Originally posted by cosmicpixie

I totally agree this is a plan and they are following a script. I happen to think the PTB have their own "masters" though, the ones who inspired and influenced religions around the world and that those REAL controllers are NOT human.

Yes, I agree. The controllers at the top are NOT human. And I also agree that they are the ones who have used religions to cause so much division among peoples. I also think the secret societies are their footsoldiers.

Originally posted by cosmicpixie
PS) The two in the field and one is taken issue ...I do not think it is the same issue as the gathering of the chosen elect who are taken to "meet the lord in the air" prior to all hell breaking loose in "Armageddon".

I see these as two separate events. Some of the elect will be killed; others will be "concealed" and remain on earth until the end. At that time of the last day, there will be some kind of instantaneous transformation.

Originally posted by cosmicpixie
The gathering of the elect is supposed to be related to those who are "saved" before SHTF . It's THAT event my abductee-implant theory relates to.

I must say that's a very interesting theory. Perhaps those abductees with implants have been promised to be gathered as the elect. However, if they have been given such a promise, I think it is misleading. It may be the intentions of the aliens to do that, but according to the script, they don't win.

I think it is their intention to "implant" the rest of the population that is willing. They need a voluntary slave class.


There are two harvests. The first harvest is called the grapes. The second harvest is the wheat.

To op, the verses in Luke are referencing God taking people as someone said during their "errands" and then states "wherever the bodies are, thats where the eagles are gathered" meaning sky. also the book of revelations says "there will be a meeting with the Lord in mid-air." as to the poster that said "We're going to meet Jesus" I'm sorry to tell you, but read carefully, he Isn't Jesus, he is the Son of God, but he will have a NEW NAME, therefore not Jesus. if you really pay close attention to read the bible, Jesus says, "surely when the Son of Man comes, will he find any faithful".. he is talking about The Holy Spirit, or the completion of the trinity. Now, there is only one Holy Spirit, and if you read the book of John at Jesus' baptism, it says "and then heaven opened up and the spirit of the Lord descended up Jesus" replace the words Spirit of the Lord with The Holy Spirit..... and then now bada-bing-bada-boom theres Christianity explained in a nut shell to you. take it or leave it. go on arguing amongst yourselves and trying to do a cover story on something most of you have know nothing about I can tell. as for the poster that explained the roots of the word Rapture, very good, because back then, and in the book of revelation the reed is referred to as a measuring device.

[edit on 27-9-2009 by clever024]

Originally posted by calstorm
After the 1000 years satan will be loosed again for a short time , and then after he is locked away once again the people who choose to follow him then will go to hell.

very true, however, after the 1000 years he will not be locked up, he will be cast into the lake of fire, along with death. at armegeddon*SP* he will be locked up. as for those in the lake of fire for 1000 years, when they are resurrected if they choose to follow satan again, they go back in, but not ALL in the lake of fire will be resurrected, their name must be in the book of life. but as far as entering the kingdom of God, very few resurrected after the 1000 years will be able to do so, the only ones are the ones who were Christians deceived into accepting the mark of the beast, but in no way will they inherit Christendom, as they will be deemed unfit for it

I think clever has been listening to too many televangelists!

Rapture does not mean "a reed."

If you search out the etymology of the word...put out a little effort instead of spewing cr#p like a parrot.... you will find that rape is the root word of rapture. It means to 'seize' and to 'seize by force'.

The thing we have to remember ids the word rapture is not found in the bible.

correct on the word rapture not in the bible, and I don't know where I read in this thread that rapture meant reed in this thread, it seems to have vanished.... my bad on the misunderstanding.... again its early and i'm goin on like 4 hours of sleep lol

Some Idiot who tells you to look at scripture in the language closest to which it was written states.......

Rapture doesn't mean "to be caught up". It comes from the greek word rhabdizo which means "to strike with a reed".

but if rhabdizo is in the texts, why is not the word rapture in english translations? or at least "striking with a reed" or anything similar?

infact the word rapture has its roots in latin I.E. "raptus" i believe from what i just read. and the reason why Jesus' said "Look for the Kingdom of God within you" is because he knew it would be a LONG time before the Kingdom of God would be on EARTH and the reason He said look for it within yourself, is because in the Kingdom of God is peace, he was basically telling you FIND PEACE within yourself

last time I check, I believe that rapture in the original language meant going up or something

Originally posted by cosmicpixie

ALATHEA - It's quite straightforward psychology to (A) plant the bad guys so that (B) you can sweep in and act as "saviours" to the human race.

ABSOLUTELY!
That is the basis of the hegelian dialectic process. Those who caused the problem...wait for people to react....then use the reaction to make people want the very thing they plan to implement. It's a way of guiding people toward your solution since you know they will not accept it unless they are under duress and the offered solution seems to be the way out.

This technique reminds me of the story of the guy who gets dissed by a girl, then quietly sets the girl's house on fire, and then shows up to put out the fire so he can be the hero.


I think the script has been written to make people believe that the outcome is that *they* will win. However, I think this notion can be challenged. They may be counting on the power of suggestion ---since they have "written the ending". However, there may be variables that could possibly keep them from the end they intend. What do you think, Pixie?