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Originally posted by Beausant91
reply to post by KSPigpen
Thankyou for the reply this all and well that we are all given opportunity but it can never be achieved man is too fickle the title is used to fire up that old hatred but if we stop and think for a while yes he was misguided yes he went the wrong way completley but it is the basic principle of that if a group of people are given more space they flourish quicker it is more to the viewpoint of Nietzsche that i hope humanity can swerve to have the free spirits on top the men with the stomach to move humanity forward and we may lose freedom in the process but if it provided answers, to achieve the goal of all philosophers to achieve truth to find the answers and deliver them to the world, it is once again another utopia that we can dream of.
Originally posted by really
By the way, Hitler was only about 5' 9" and not very physical fit or intimidating. I could take him easily and I'm more of a Spiderman than a Superman.
Originally posted by really
First off, with the physical problems he had, who the hell is he to judge who's a superman? The dude was an artist.
Secondly, I'm sorry to upset a member of the Hitler fan base by saying that I'm pretty sure I could take Hitler in a brawl. I just feel awful.
I teach you the overman. Man is something that shall be overcome. What have you done to overcome him? All beings so far have created something beyond themselves; and do you want to be the ebb of this great flood, and even go back to the beasts rather than overcome man? What is ape to man? A laughing stock or painful embarrassment. And man shall be that to overman: a laughingstock or painful embarrassment. You have made your way from worm to man, and much in you is still worm. Once you were apes, and even now, too, man is more ape than any ape...The overman is the meaning of the earth. Let your will say: the overman shall be the meaning of the earth...Man is a rope, tied between beast and overman--a rope over an abyss...what is great in man is that he is a bridge and not an end..."
Originally posted by bettermakings
Too many comments are on a tangent.
This is about EUGENICS. Look up the word if you don't know what it is.
I believe that there are many who support eugenics today. I know of many personally. Many countries other than Nazi-Germany have supported the idea of eugenics, including America, Australia, and other developed nations.
I might call someone a "Nazi" occasionally, not because they are anti-Semitic, but because they support the idea of eugenics.
Personally, i think nature knows best. That is the argument: Do humans know better than nature when it comes to the evolution of our own species?
So, to the author, you are a supporter of EUGENICS. I'm not saying it's wrong, although my beliefs differ; I'm stating the fact that many people today don't realize that they have a similar mentality to the Nazis.
i'm asking the question that if we get rid of our herd mentality and our morals is giving the few "Supermen" the space to thrive such a bad thing getting humanity out of mediocraty so the species can evolve faster and with better results just want to hear your views!!
No one who has attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must be highly injurious to the race of man. It is surprising how soon a want of care, or care wrongly directed, leads to the degeneration of a domestic race; but excepting in the case of man itself, hardly any one is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed.
The aid which we feel impelled to give to the helpless is mainly an incidental result of the instinct of sympathy, which was originally acquired as part of the social instincts, but subsequently rendered, in the manner previously indicated, more tender and more widely diffused. Nor could we check our sympathy, even at the urging of hard reason, without deterioration in the noblest part of our nature. The surgeon may harden himself whilst performing an operation, for he knows that he is acting for the good of his patient; but if we were intentionally to neglect the weak and helpless, it could only be for a contingent benefit, with an overwhelming present evil.
Originally posted by mopusvindictus
The next great religion Islam? Wasn't that in the 13th century? lol
You see the point i making is that christianity has been the religion for the masses next is Islam in my country anyway don't know or care in America.
That would also include Nazis who remaining legacy exists in the form of awful drug gangs most of whos members rot in American prison cells at any given time.
Are there your wrong most Nazi Scientists they actually worked for the American Government with records being changed and the legacy of Nazi Germany is your space programme your nuclear armorments and most of the scientific leaps also they hired high ranking members of the gestapo and SS into the C.I.A wow America really are the most selfishly led country in the world and this is the beauty of it for you understand the place many of the Ubermensch will ail from is America what cruel irony.
Originally posted by Beausant91i'm asking you the question was he right in his belief that there are superior human beings who deserve to have the space to thrive and prosper