Global Warming / Climate Change = the biggest hoax ever created.

I've studied this subject professionally at one point. It's almost funny how big of a lie it is. The climate is actually extremely stable right now. What is NOT stable, you ask?

A worldwide-average temperature-change of 10-20 degrees in less than 50 years. That is "climate change", which we haven't seen in about 11,000 years!!! (We actually would be better off a little warmer, but anyways)

So if one were to look at the climate history of the past 1,000,000 years (for example), there IS a trend: Major Ice Ages!!! We are highly due for one. That is the real threat today, not warming. We're already seeing colder temperatures the past decade over ALL areas that were once covered in glaciers. It's starting out as a mini-ice-age, but it is possible that the world could PLUNGE INTO A MAJOR ICE AGE 20 DEGREES COLDER BY 2050.

That would be the end of the world as we know it. . . and it is going to happen sometime in the next 1000 years, guaranteed. There is a clear cycle of 10,000-12,000-year interglacial periods which we are at the end of right now. Remember it started 11,000 years ago.

Hey,

What does it matter if it is real or not?

The "solutions" put out so far are nothing but a great "scam" and EVERYONE knows it.

There is no miracle solution... electric cars.. .coal power plants.

Algae oil would work but just like everything else if this Carbon Tax is allowed to happen, you will never have a "cure".

There will be to much money to EVER cure the problem.

i agree that the whole manmade global warming is bunk, but i wouldn't say our climate is stable.
to me its like the calm before the storm, the sun has gone into one of its deepest minumums in recorded history, in 2007 we had around 160 days without sunspots then in 2008 we had 266, this year we've already had 212. if we keep it up we'll break 290. also our magnetic field is doing all sorts of gymnastics

i think we'll probly snap out of this low sun activity around spring 2010 maybe summer and once that happens our sun is going to go berserk for the next 3 years. there will be no talk of ice ages then unless of course yellowstone blows

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The thing is, what can we do about it?

Fair enough, a lot of it is for the greater good but right in the middle of it, we have new taxes and fee's coming in all across the west in order to get us to cut down on our emissions.

The problem is that while these emissions are being taxed, the alternatives are not showing up quickly enough to give us an option to move to lower emission products. So an there will be an abundance of tax collected.

Some countries like France will be doing the right thing and canceling these new taxes by decreasing taxes in products or services that have low carbon footprints.. this seems noble and honest to me.

My own country and the rest of the countries that are using the Anglo Saxon model it seems, will be keeping huge portions of the tax income in order to cover their bailouts during this crises.. or even giving this money to large investment companies for a return.. and not necessarily to be invested in green projects. One of these investment companies happens to be the Rothschild group.. who set up the specific investment company for dealing with carbon tax investments years before the carbon tax idea became any way widespread.. I really hate those bastids.

Also, its so convenient that the US/UK began pushing for the carbon tax as soon as they had bailed out their banks and needed to refill their coffers.

The EU had been on about carbon taxes for decades but wanted to tax the industry, not the consumer.. but we're "socialist" so thats understandable.

global warming due to man is as made up as manbearpig....wasn't there a period in time that numerous volcanoes erupted for many years continuously? wouldn't that exceed what we've done by many times over? the earth goes through periods of warmth and ice ages as far back as we can tell, they are just using it to exploit people for profit and to control the populace more...

funny thread.. it may be true that people may take advantage over global warming and to make money from it thats why its called capitalism..... and do you really think its a hoax when global warming has been known to people since the early 80s??? Just because it may seem like its warming or they may be signs of it cooling that is not to say it is not true. There are other factors that can contribute to climate change over a short period of time like lack of sunspots volcanic eruptions all lead to cooling but that isnt to say warming isnt taking place in the long run. we have had a stable weather system for over 10000 years after the last ice age (these periods of ice ages may be linked to the precession of the earth which hsappens every 26000 yrs) but if u inject extra gases into the atmosphere how the hell can anyone say it is not going to affect the climate.....

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[edit on 22-9-2009 by loner007]

Global warming is a fraud. Climate change is very well real. And in no way are humans at all responsible for any of it. The earth goes through its own climate changes on its own. The greenhouse gases that we as humans have contributed to the atmosphere is so little that it has done nothing.

The most abundant greehouse gas is water vapor. 80% of the greehouse gases are water vapor. Carbon Dioxide only comprises of 5%. and we as humans have only contributed to a total of 3.225% of all of the carbon. The rest is completely natural and would happen whether or not human were on earth.

Also, The wavelengths of the greenhouse gases that keep heat in are proportioned the same. The only difference is that the majority of carbon dioxide is also covered up by water vapor. This means that even if all that carbon were not there the water vapor would still have the same effect.

When you look at the temperature of the earth from a million years ago til now is has changed and fluctuated but has always went back to the way it was and then the opposite. It gets hotter then colder. Thats how the earth works.

In the past hundred years the temperature has fluctuated and we are now at the same temperature as then. and suprisingly, on the downward slope. Meaning that it is going to get cooler before it gets warmer again.

When you look at the rise and fall of temperature over time and then look at carbon levels in the atmosphere during that same time you will see no relation. but, when you compare temperature with water vapor levels they are in direct relation. When there is more water vapor in the air the temperature gets hotter. Carbon does not effect the temperature. Water vapor does.

Today carbon in the atmosphere is way higher than it has ever been. And yet the temperature is less than many other peaks in history. How could this be possible if carbon levels make temperature fluctuate.

Also, when you look at individual temperatures over the course of time it would seem that the northern hemisphere is warming faster than the southern. and that the southern is getting cooler. This is impossible if you believe that carbon is the cause. Here is why. Carbon levels are the same in every part of the stmosphere. No matter what. It is the same at the north and south poles, at the equator, on ground level and ten miles high. It is constant. But what isnt constant. Water vapor. Is is given off by trees, humans, anything you can think of that is living. and looking at the facts. suprisingly, the northern hemisphere is growing more trees than before and also the southern hemisphere is losing more.

Just as an example. In the desert where there is no water vapor. Is it very hot because it is close to the equator. But when the sun goes down and the greenhouse gases should trap the daily heat in. It doesnt. and it gets very cold. why is that. also, in tropical rain forests. much water vapor. during the day it is hot. because it is on the equator. but at night it remains hot. the greehouse gas there is doing its job and trapping the heat in. So where carbon levels are the same. temperatures are very different and fluctuate rapidly or not at all. Yet the only difference is water vapor levels.

The facts are true. and you cannot argue with facts. Oppinions just dont add up in comparison. this is pure logic.

I do agree with everyone in the world. We must find a way to be cleaner with less polution. Get away from fossil fuels. But lieing to people and scaring them telling them that the earth will be destroyed is unnessesary and should be stopped.

Thank you for reading!