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Originally posted by calstorm
You are right about one thing, God doesn't want blind followers. He wants people who made a conscious choice. He wants people to follow him because the want to, and choose to of their own free will.
Originally posted by reasonable
Originally posted by calstorm
You are right about one thing, God doesn't want blind followers. He wants people who made a conscious choice. He wants people to follow him because the want to, and choose to of their own free will.
And what happens if they do not choose to follow him? They burn in hellfire for eternity. So someone is aiming a gun at you and says bow before me or I'll shoot you in the stomach.. but the choice is yours.. you do not HAVE to bow before me. You call that free will? Laughable.
Originally posted by calstorm
reply to post by reasonable
Thats exactly what free will is. with all choices there comes consequences, some minor some major. You can choose not to eat but you will get hungry, you can choose not to go to work, knowing you could get fired.
Every second in life you make choices that affect your future. sometimes when know the consequences ahead of time, other times we don't but its still a choice. There are some people who actually want to go to hell and make that conscious decision.
You don't choose to be born, you don't choose whether or not your heart beats or whether or not you dream while you are asleep, but you can choose what you believe knowing there may or may not be consequences.
Originally posted by reasonable
Originally posted by calstorm
You are right about one thing, God doesn't want blind followers. He wants people who made a conscious choice. He wants people to follow him because the want to, and choose to of their own free will.
And what happens if they do not choose to follow him? They burn in hellfire for eternity. So someone is aiming a gun at you and says bow before me or I'll shoot you in the stomach.. but the choice is yours.. you do not HAVE to bow before me. You call that free will? Laughable.