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EU Funding 'Orwellian' Artificial Intelligence Plan To Monitor Public For "Abnormal Behaviour"

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posted on Sep, 20 2009 @ 11:31 PM

EU Funding 'Orwellian' Artificial Intelligence Plan To Monitor Public For "Abnormal Behaviour"


A five-year research programme, called Project Indect, aims to develop computer programmes which act as "agents" to monitor and process information from web sites, discussion forums, file servers, peer-to-peer networks and even individual computers.

Its main objectives include the "automatic detection of threats and abnormal behaviour or violence"......Shami Chakrabarti, the director of human rights group Liberty, described the introduction of such mass surveillance techniques as a "sinister step" for any country, adding that it was "positively chilling" on a European scale.
(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on 21-9-2009 by burntheships]

posted on Sep, 20 2009 @ 11:31 PM
This is pushing it as far I am concerned...
I suppose there is no kind of personal defense against this, and to think that The United States is on par to be integrated with the E.U. in the year 2015, both in the same boat.

This seems technologically connected to MALINTENT...

MALINTENT is technological system that was developed by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to be implemented for detection of potential terrorist suspects.

The system does various test scanning for elevated blood pressure, rapid heart and breath rate, and non-verbal cues. According to the scientists, the MALINTENT system uses a barrage of non-invasive sensors and imagers to detect and evaluate a person's facial expressions to gauge whether he or she could be planning to commit an attack or crime.

In its current development, it can recognize seven primary emotions and emotional clues and will eventually have equipment which can analyze full body movement, an eye scanner and a pheromone-reader.

If the sensors pick up anything considered alarming, analysts can decide whether to subject a person to questioning.

(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on 21/9/2009 by Mirthful Me]

[edit on 21-9-2009 by burntheships]

posted on Sep, 20 2009 @ 11:56 PM

I can't help but notice that a large portion of the news sources that fuels this site are from

Is this site trustworthy? Do they check their facts and provide relevant documentation/links to those facts? I'm not judging, there's quite a few interesting articles there and even more interesting posts about them here. I simply want to know.

posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 12:02 AM
Here ya go arrowmancer
Straight from the webpage:

Project Description

Intelligent information system supporting observation, searching and detection for security of citizens in urban environment.
The main objectives of the INDECT project are:
to develop a platform for: the registration and exchange of operational data, acquisition of multimedia content, intelligent processing of all information and automatic detection of threats and recognition of abnormal behaviour or violence,
to develop the prototype of an integrated, network-centric system supporting the operational activities of police officers, providing techniques and tools for observation of various mobile objects,
to develop a new type of search engine combining direct search of images and video based on watermarked contents, and the storage of metadata in the form of digital watermarks,
The main expected results of the INDECT project are:
to realise a trial installation of the monitoring and surveillance system in various points of city agglomeration and demonstration of the prototype of the system with 15 node stations,
implementation of a distributed computer system that is capable of acquisition, storage and effective sharing on demand of the data as well as intelligent processing,
construction of a family of prototypes of devices used for mobile object tracking,
construction of a search engine for fast detection of persons and documents based on watermarking technology and utilising comprehensive research on watermarking technology used for semantic search,
construction of agents assigned to continuous and automatic monitoring of public resources such as: web sites, discussion forums, UseNet groups, file servers, p2p networks as well as individual computer systems,
elaboration of Internet based intelligence gathering system, both active and passive, and demonstrating its efficiency in a measurable way.

This is creepy I must say

posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 12:26 AM
reply to post by Mr Headshot

Headshot, thanks for taking me seriously on my request. The Telegraph just rose a notch in my esteem.

construction of agents assigned to continuous and automatic monitoring of public resources such as: web sites, discussion forums, UseNet groups, file servers, p2p networks as well as individual computer systems,

This is an ambitious project, to say the very least. But I see some critical flaws, a few of which will be fatal.

1. Indvidual computer systems. Everything else in the list could be classified as material provisioneers. In the strictest sense, the personal computer could be, as well. I'm amazed that the UK would allow their government this level of control. At least in the US they had to cheat us out of it, lie to us, and we are still resisting.
If you and I are playing Halo online together, then our IP's are linked through a central hub. If your government were accessing your system while I was linked to it, then it would also be linked to mine. There are many people around the world that are not bound by certain restrictions and would have the will and the means to exploit that connection to protect themselves.
2. The US also funded a project that had a narrower, but similar scope. An imaging system that used a person's gait (the manner in which they walk) to identify them. It was something which went all kinds of nuts because an imaging system like that would be too costly to set up and maintain.
3. The amount of data that would have to go through this system would be phenomenal. Since it will be an artificial intelligence controlling it, the limits of it's programming would make it susceptible for deception. Exploiting the weaknesses of an AI system is extremely easy.
4. As this will be used by law enforcement, it's a reasonable assumption that there will be some modicum of restraint implied. However, where there is Man, there is corruption. Everyone could assume they are being monitored at any given time. Orwellian was an appropriate term. I can see the blank faces of the people as they went about their tasks. The conformity that would become the norm. Honestly, I seriously doubt the people of the UK are prepared to allow that to happen. Despite what the rest of the world thinks, the US still considers the UK our older brother and we watch you, respectfully.
5. Any system of man, no matter how good the intention behind it, can be exploited by that man's counterpart in the private sector. This kind of technology can work both ways. Whenever information is shared, there is a chance it will be intercepted and the possibility it can be used to gain an advantage over the system itself. This particular system will be no different. From the amount of data that will be collected and the channels that will be used to acquire it, transmit it, and deliver it, this system will be particularly vulnerable. Expect rapid advancements in encryption and security.

It's late, probably didn't think through a tenth of the problems I've seen, but this is a basic few. I'll read through it again tomorrow and try to make my points clearer.

All the same, my heart and mind are with you, UK.

posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 01:13 AM
I get a good laugh when I read anything about the E.U. European Union unfortunately I can't say it's not true.

posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 01:24 AM
I'll give up any of my civil rights as long as it keeps me safe. There may be terrorists in my community here in des moines, iowa. We have at least one bridge that is pretty large, it must look pretty tempting to them Arab Islams. They hate us for our freedoms so if we have less freedoms we won't be attacked.

I don't care what the government peeps into, if I am doing nothing wrong why should I care? I don't break any laws, I pay my taxes and get up every day and go to my 8 hour a day job as a fry cook at McDonald's. I'm way up the ladder from those losers that work the counter, I make $1.10 more an hour than they do, though if they raise minimum wage again like 3 years ago it'll be even again. I don't carry cash, you know you can get ripped off so I have an ATM card and that way I can keep track of all my money and it's real easy to file tax returns that way.

I'm saving up so that next year I can ask out this new girl at the counter if she wants to go on a date. If she says yes we might go to dinner. You think Burger King will honor my McD's 10% employee discount?

Just kidding. I'm no dummy. I'm a fry cook! I get benefits! Free Oxy10 for my pimples, and a prosthetic if my hand ever slips into the grease vat! Again!

(the american sheeple. now playing at a town near you.)

Organized Stalking. It's real and it's happening somewhere right now, to someone, simply because the life they lead flies in the face of the above. The totalitarian surveillance society it is part of includes what you report here too.

posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 01:35 AM
And what happens if the public determines that the government is behaving abnormally?

I think we need to set up cameras to watch them.

posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 01:41 AM
So they are putting all this money into ways to collect information online? What if those who really want to do harm use a pencil and piece of paper?

posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 01:53 AM
How ironic.
Paranoid Psychopaths looking out for "abnormal behaviour" in others!

posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 02:30 AM
Looks like just another measure to profile and target the ingrates among us who think our leaders are a bunch of criminals. That would be the majority of us most likely!

So, what are they going to do if, for instance, I come to their attention for some scathing online posts in discussion forums and visit websites that post news that they'd rather the population didn't see (censored by the mainstream corporate press)?
Will they pull me in for questioning / ban me from overseas travel / have me sent to a mental institution for my thought crimes?

posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 03:17 AM
reply to post by cloakndagger

I am sure they are working on that angle...
Do we remember Orwells "1984", the thought police....

They already have the technology available, and in use at airports
monitering for terrorists. The program is called Mal Intent...


"This is all pretty scary stuff in my book. These projects would involve a huge invasion of privacy and citizens need to ask themselves whether the EU should be spending their taxes on them," he said.

"The EU lacks sufficient checks and balances and there is no evidence that anyone has ever asked 'is this actually in the best interests of our citizens?'"

Miss Chakrabarti said: "Profiling whole populations instead of monitoring individual suspects is a sinister step in any society.

"It's dangerous enough at national level, but on a Europe-wide scale the idea becomes positively chilling."

[edit on 21-9-2009 by burntheships]

posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 04:23 AM
Has it crossed anyone elses mind to think that perhaps World War 3 will not be fought with guns and bombs, not even nuclear weapons, but with computers?

Seriously, there are millions of hackers out there just waiting for an excuse to co-ordinate and attack TPTB. This story is only going to antagonise the situation further.

posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 04:34 AM
reply to post by Kryties

Yes, for sure that is true. Think about how the hackers from China
have kept Microsoft in continuous peril.

I know one thing for sure, it is as you say right now.

Every branch of the military has thier own unit for this
"online" warring.

posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 05:39 AM
Lets hope they test it against the politicians first, see what responses the system comes up with , I personally think it would go into meltdown in the first day, as we all know politicians behaviour is odd to say the least, all those lies and deciets, all the perversions and the debauchery in their rooms.

They want it? test it on them first.

posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 05:41 AM
reply to post by DataWraith

Yes it would be interesting would it not to focus it on Gordon Brown, and Sarkozy and see how Abnormal they are!

posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 11:46 AM
reply to post by burntheships

Every branch of the military has thier own unit for this "online" warring.

Let us not forget that wonderful individual from overseas, Gary McKinnon. In an interview, this were the opening statements:

Spencer Kelly: Here's your list of charges: you hacked into the Army, the Navy, the Air Force, the Department of Defense, and Nasa, amongst other things. Why? Gary McKinnon: I was in search of suppressed technology, laughingly referred to as UFO technology. I think it's the biggest kept secret in the world because of its comic value, but it's a very important thing.

He made us here in the US look like noobies!
I was so happy to see this. Told all my friends. If this guy isn't one of us, he deserves an honorary badge. Not for the crimes that he committed, but for the fact that he was willing to risk his own freedom to Deny Ignorance. I still want to know what he found.

It also points out some major flaws in our international crime system, especially those concerning extradition.
The Interview
The basic news story.

posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 01:32 PM
reply to post by Britguy

Well, there is indefinite detention that President Obama wants to make legal. That is, the government being able to put any person away indefinetedly even if that person never committed any crime, they will probably even develop a "Pre-Crime unit" like in the movie Minority Report...after all Janet Napolitano and the DHS also labeled most Americans as "possible terrorists"...

I see something like this being set up in the EU also, just like it is happening in the U.S. After all, we ALL must be complacent to the One World Socialist Dictatorship.

[edit on 23-9-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 01:55 PM
IF thier were pre crime police* that would literally be the IDENTICAL bother in todays terms, of nazi germnay's ;'ghestappo'...and thats the truth! watchng and removing anyone the government saw un desirable or fit to be allowed to live or seen in public eyes. sick isnt it?
Well, if they ever do set up these cameras, i have lots ot show them, in terms of 'unusualy behavior' flipping off the camera 20 times a day..doing a BIG #2 loaf right in the city street or governors office steps...using an air rifle to shoot out its lens eyes* throwing hard rocls at them as target and throwing practice..all while wearing a ski mask or stockings of course

posted on Oct, 4 2009 @ 11:42 PM
reply to post by burntheships


This file, marked "confidential", describes development of an EU-funded intelligence gathering system ("INDECT work package 4") designed to comb webblogs, chat sites, newsreports, and social-networking sites to inorder to build up automatic dossiers on individuals, organizations and their relationships.

"The aim of work package 4 (WP4) is the development of key technologies that facilitate the building of an intelligence gathering system by combining and extending the current-state-ofthe- art methods in Natural Language Processing (NLP). One of the goals of WP4 is to propose NLP and machine learning methods that learn relationships between people and organizations through websites and social networks. Key requirements for the development of such methods are: (1) the identification of entities, their relationships and the events in which they participate, and (2) the labelling of the entities, relationships and events in a corpus that will be used as a means both for developing the methods." wikileaks

Download: INDECT

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