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Originally posted by Jakko
In my opinion humans will just have to get it into their little heads there WAS a creator that always was and always will be, that created everything.
Originally posted by Jakko
No Damned.
There is no difference between "what created a creator" and "what created first creation" and "what created the creator of the creator".
In my opinion humans will just have to get it into their little heads there WAS a creator that always was and always will be, that created everything.
Originally posted by one eyed tom
If there is an after life i do not want to go to hell or heaven. I just want to sleep forever.
Originally posted by Damned
Apparently, you believe there was a creator. Why? Besides the bible(which was written by naive, primitive men), what inkling of proof do you have of this?
Humans need to get it through their head that there never was a creator,
IMO, and quit arguing about which f'ing creator is better than the others, and who's going where when they cease to live. It's utterly ridiculous.
He doesn't have any power over anything because he never existed. I've tested that theory every possible way I could. It still holds 100% true.
God is for people who desperately need love and guidance, but can't get it from anyone except an imaginary fantasy figure.
Originally posted by TruthCanHurt
The proof of a Creator is all around us. As an example: You can smash a bunch of rocks together for billions of years and you're never going to get a typewriter. But yet we have typewriters, the typewriters were created by intelligent beings.
Yes. The traditional myth of a 'god' is a god made in our image. We've been here but minute on earth.. and a millinsecond in this universe.. a god with a human interlect came much AFTER we ever came into existance.. and we were monkeys beforehand.. before that single celled muicrobes.. if we were suppose to be made in his image.. was he a single celled microbe at the time?
Is it so hard for you to extend this concept beyond
our world?
I've noticed that a lot of people that do not believe in God do so because He does not fit their expectation of what they expect. Their logic usually goes something like: [How can there be a god if ...] [If there is a god then how could he let ... happen]
As if God is supposed to insure that our life experience does not include anything that we do not like.
Originally posted by wrath_of_god
Sometimes religious can be a powerful psychological weapon. Any way I am a Christian and I believe in life on other planets I dont think the others planet are just for decoration
Originally posted by TruthCanHurt
The proof of a Creator is all around us. As an example: You can smash
a bunch of rocks together for billions of years and you're never going to
get a typewriter. But yet we have typewriters, the typewriters were
created by intelligent beings. The world surrounds us with many many
examples of creation. Is it so hard for you to extend this concept beyond
our world?
You are always asking for proof, what proof do you have to support this
statement?
Yes, there are lots of idiots and religious fanatics out there in the world which have the wrong ideas. This does not prove the absence of a
creator, however.
Care to share with us how you've tested your theory?
I've noticed that a lot of people that do not believe in God do so because He does not fit their expectation of what they expect. Their logic usually goes something like: [How can there be a god if ...] [If there is a god then how could he let ... happen]
As if God is supposed to insure that our life experience does not include
anything that we do not like.
Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
Truth is there is no evidence to proove that god is real, is there???
Thats called EVOLUTION. We used to bang rocks together to make fire. Then we discovered we could cook with it.. then we discovered we could make the wheel etc. etc.
Yes. The traditional myth of a 'god' is a god made in our image. We've been here but minute on earth.. and a millinsecond in this universe.. a god with a human interlect came much AFTER we ever came into existance.. and we were monkeys beforehand.. before that single celled muicrobes.. if we were suppose to be made in his image.. was he a single celled microbe at the time?
Our logic is simply that we actually USE it. I've noticed pro god people using the capital He.. is it logical to assume that someone omnipitant has a penis? [well he did give mary the once over i guess..]
Wow thats patronising. We take the responsibility ourselves to insure our life experiences don't include things we don't like. We are not rebellious little children giving daddy the silent treatment.. we simply realise he's not there.. bloody hell.. what a terrible place the world would be if there was no religion!!
Originally posted by Indigo_Child
Damned, still at it eh? It really seems to be that your strong anti-god feelings have something to do with how life treats you. You have some issues needing resolving my friend. You are not alone, that is often why people entertain beliefs of atheism.
At the end of the day, not believing in our creator, or our universe, is like not believing in yourself. That is not about logic, that is about issues you need resolved in life. It's often the case, unhappy people become atheists. I know, because I was one, and then I saw the light.
You assume that this is so very complex that it must have been created.
At the end of the day, you need a crutch, while I walk strong and independent, believing in myself.
I am my own god.
I control my life and every aspect of it, without panic or desperation.
While I'm thinking about how to handle the next random event, you're on your knees, hoping your god will help you. When I came to the realization that there is no god, I gained a lot of faith in myself. I became stronger. You, on the other hand, prefer to beg for help and forgiveness.
Hahahahah people are atheists because they're unhappy? I think I've heard it all, dont equate your life to mine, its nothing alike. I was actually un-happy and in a constant state of worry when I was christian, I dont believe anymore, and im a much happier person than I ever was when I believed.