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Harder To Believe In - God or Aliens?

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posted on Jul, 5 2004 @ 11:29 PM
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Ixataar:

There's a reason why it was only mentioned in Space: Above and Beyond. That's because it's a TV show. It has no basis in real life, and should not be construed in such a manner.

If you could read the little disclaimers that they fly past the screen at the end of the show, you would see the "any similarities between this show and real life is purely coincidental" one towards the bottom. I don't mean to sound condescending; I merely aim to inform.

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Now, as for the stem cell debate, here we go...

I don't condone the killing of babies to get stem cells. I find that to be murder, and anyone caught doing it, in my opinion, should be properly tried by law. However, I heard that they can get lots of stem cells from the ambilical cords that have been cut away after the baby was born. That's one method of getting them legally. Another would be from a baby that has died naturally. These two methods provide a nearly inexhaustible supply of stem cells for research and/or treatment, plus they provide a way for the families to help save the lives of others, sort of like an organ donor program.

Anyway, those were my few thoughts.




posted on Jul, 6 2004 @ 10:45 PM
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For TheBorg;

Yeh, thats good mate.
I understand the difference between a fictional TV show and reality.

However, it doesn't explain the "loose-leaf documents" I've had in my possession since 1988 (whicdh clearly identify the Operation).

If I recall, Space A&B, wasn't even made until the late nineties.
Of course, I could be wrong...



posted on Jul, 7 2004 @ 07:20 PM
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Ixataar
If you've got the proof as you say, thatr could make for a very interesting thread in its own right. I guess I wonder though how it relates to the discussion here. Perhaps you could shed some light on that.



posted on Jul, 10 2004 @ 04:43 PM
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Well I believe that... now i USED to be religious now im not becouse of my imagination at work


If aliens created us then that could be why they are abducting/watching us and checking on progress like.... lets say waaaay back when there were cave peoples and crud they didnt show records of anything other then paintings... my theory is that they have wanted us to be a perfect version of themselves or they are trying to make somthing of an enviroment for somthing they found unstable somwhere else.... sounds stupid may be right may not.. of course we never know and might not for a loooooooong time...

Give me credit for me trying at least


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posted on Jul, 11 2004 @ 01:39 PM
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Credit given!

But,

Who created the aliens in the first place?

And,

If they wanted to create a perfect little replication of themselves, how did they up with us? Perfect, I don't think so. Not now or any time in the foreseeable future. You would think if aliens were bright enough to travel here, they could have built a better civilization.



posted on Jul, 11 2004 @ 03:33 PM
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IMO, if we humans are populating our world with bodies and God is creating the souls (us), why can't it be the same on other worlds and world to world?

What is much moral difference between how a blob of DNA arrives on a world and starts to develop and how we chose to make a baby from a blob and let it develop into a person?

God is still the only one who can create life. No blob of any mixture of matter in any shape, developed or not, is life itself, here or there or anywhere.

Throughout the Universe, our bodies are all made of the same "dust" and our souls all come from the same life force.

Human DNA on Earth came from one singe other race of humans. We developed here basically on our own from our earliest beginnings.

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[edit on 11-7-2004 by EarthSister]



posted on Jul, 11 2004 @ 04:03 PM
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Yes I have heard that to even the ETs said that GOD Exists but not the god from Ancient times, (we got in our religions) that was the/some ETs.
So basically the Nature create "Containers/bodies" and GOD the soles(us). How things became that way wow is hard to know right now

It would be cool if we all created one veary good "theory" on this.


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posted on Jul, 11 2004 @ 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by Cardu
It would be cool if we all created one veary good "theory" on this.

[edit on 11-7-2004 by Cardu]


But to "create" a theory is to deny the truth. The truth exists and it will not change. It is something wee must always seek. To create a theory is to place ourselves above the creator and to deny the truth He wishes to reveal to us.



posted on Jul, 11 2004 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by CommonSense

Originally posted by Cardu
It would be cool if we all created one veary good "theory" on this.

[edit on 11-7-2004 by Cardu]


But to "create" a theory is to deny the truth. The truth exists and it will not change. It is something wee must always seek. To create a theory is to place ourselves above the creator and to deny the truth He wishes to reveal to us.

Well I didnt mean it in that way of corse
(even there is so many that does that) Yep the truth exists and will not change. a really good rule



posted on Jul, 11 2004 @ 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by CommonSense

But to "create" a theory is to deny the truth.


The advanced races say too that there is only one truth. The way I see it, I agree. And the advanced races don't have everything figured out either, they are just further ahead of us, which is to be respected in its own right.

I see what you are saying. I keep in my mind that there is "no way" that we humans can truly comprehend God and how God is, but we can work toward it. Every little step in the right direction is to be encouraged. An intelligent, new, more informed theory might be a step but I do not think we have to assume that we are defining all the truth. We should still work on theories. Maybe it is the way we work together that makes the process so positive by getting us all from here to there, and not so much deciding who is right or wrong.



posted on Jul, 11 2004 @ 05:41 PM
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You know im sorry to say but after 29 pages of threds, doesnt it seem
that all we are doing is going around in circles in this topic?

Cant we all just pick up somthing new and move along?



posted on Jul, 11 2004 @ 07:31 PM
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madwalrus911


Aren't you getting anything at all out of all this?



posted on Jul, 11 2004 @ 07:35 PM
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Well MW911,
I don't think anyone made this thread a required subject. Quite frankly, there's been some very interesting exchanges along the way but that would require reading all 29 pages which is a time consuming task. What we've asked everyone to do is to either contribute to the discussion or decide to contribute to some other thread.

As opposed to your comment "Cant we all just pick up somthing new and move along?", I guess I'll let the members decide that. I think they're old enough where they don't need to be told what they should be interested in.

[edit on 7/11/2004 by CommonSense]



posted on Jul, 11 2004 @ 08:11 PM
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CommonSense said: Truth exists and cannot be changed. We have proof that really shows us how important/necessary it is to find out the truth. So that thing is solid. The only matter is the peoples will/mind to do the right thing if that turned out to be done we would defiantly meet our beliefs. Until then are we are joust looping around many pointless deaths?



posted on Jul, 12 2004 @ 11:02 PM
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Shall I send the photocopied documents to Above Top Secret? I don't have access to a Scanner (the documents are pretty "old and tatty" anyway...)
I guess I could type it out "word-for-word", when I find the time...



posted on Jul, 13 2004 @ 06:32 AM
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Well, they do have scanners at Kinkos, maybe even at your library. Re-typing would deo no good since most people would look at it as fiction. If you've got them, someone else must haver a copy. Have you done any extensive web searching?



posted on Jul, 14 2004 @ 05:26 PM
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This is an interesting topic... God, or aliens? Well, I do not believe that aliens created us, rather I believe, that God created them, too.
They are just a bit far away, and quite smart, why would we make god out of them? The same hopeless creatures like humans, just with bigger eyes, green skin who use airplanes without wings. Nothing strange about it, I think...



posted on Jul, 15 2004 @ 02:56 PM
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Santa probably also has this uber-technology that enables him to fly through the sky with his animals without being seen or heard by anyone.



I still don't think aliens on earth exist.



posted on Jul, 15 2004 @ 04:59 PM
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i belive in god
we all should
but most of the stuff posted on this site you either belvie in or not
you dont post a thread about not beliving in somthing this is about sharing secrets that you know of not saying that some of this stuff is almost bc



posted on Jul, 17 2004 @ 11:57 AM
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Lep,
I agree with you. Most people here think that events are mutually exclusive. Either it's all God or all science. That's wrong, it's the integration of both. It's sad when society attempts to explain all things from a purely scientific and secular point of view. Although, I must admit, it sometimes makes for some pretty amusing reading.



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