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posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 06:26 AM
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Alex is one of the few i really believe!

I saw an interview with him in which he became very emotional, and then i stumbled upon a 1991 or 1993 interview in which he LITERALLY predicted 9-11. That prediction was so detailed that he must have known it 10 years before it happend.




posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 07:22 AM
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Originally posted by zarp3333

I was looking at myself as a ghost in a Union officers blue coat. It was a cold fall rain. I could smell manure and the unmistakeable aroma of decaying leaves. I was watching myself, watch my wife attending my funeral. My wife was wearing a black dress and a black veil. Although I could not see her face, I knew exactly that it was the first love of my life, a woman I will call Sally for reasons that are not important. I felt the sorrow she was feeling. Mind you, this happened in a blink of an eye and nothing like this has ever happened in my life. I not only felt her pain, I felt an enormous sense of gratitude that I had lived long enough to experience a very powerful and genuine love from another human being.

Although the casket was closed, I knew instantly that it was my body in the casket having died in the war. I also realized that I am not my body, It was a vehicle lent to me to participate in another round of spiritual growth on this planet that I must have planned in advance to spend with Sally.


That is beautiful.....


Until someone experiences this, they cannot understand.

I also had a similar experience but I remember being off a coast in a ship, probably New Zealand. My wife and I were in a large room where people smoked, drank and gambled. We went outside and it was perfect, a warm breeze with campfires along the coast line. I loved my wife so much, it was incredible. But someone from inside the gambling area came outside and hit me from behind, killing me almost instantly. I still remember seeing my wife next to my wooden closed casket and her screaming out, "it's not fair!" We also met, and I cannot be around her more than a few minutes as the emotions become overwhelming.

Rich



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 07:23 AM
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Another item that struck me about this speech is the statement that the visitors have come back in time to influence events that will effect them in the future.

There has been much speculation over the years that the visitors could be time travellers. There is currently an active story about Rhendelsham on earthfiles.com and on ATS.

The soldier who touched the craft that landed at rhendelsham said it spoke to him and conveyed the passengers were from the future on a mission to collect dna to save their species.

My gut tells me alex is telling the truth. That may not be good enough for others and I respect that.

This thread has answered my deepest uncertainties. I am now going to spend my last $200 on rice and beans for my basement and another box of 30.06 rounds for my rifle.

I'm ready to fight for my family and other patriots. Has anybody else noticed that nancy pelosi looks like one of the aliens in the movie "They Live?"



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by InOurNature
The thing is that it all coming back to you and yourself. All we really need to do is to understand ourself. By doing that we then can understand others and see the picture of universe. All is really simple and logic, be positive and your more or less is done. Always strive to be better, to know more about yourself.



www.youtube.com...

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Alex Collier and Tony Robbins are selling the same thing.

[edit on 22-9-2009 by Pathos]



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by Pathos


Alex Collier and Tony Robbins are selling the same thing.

[edit on 22-9-2009 by Pathos]


...with the only difference being that Alex Collier isn't 'selling' anything.

..c'mon, at least attempt to make a supported argument here....



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by NightVision
...with the only difference being that Alex Collier isn't 'selling' anything.


If anyone would bother watching the Dolan lecture, you would hear that his research has shown that since the 70s and 80s the government has gotten more involved in planting disinfo agents into the ufo community. If this simple fact is remembered, then cases like Collier's are not so surprising. He may not be selling books or DVDs, but he is very possibly on a gov. payroll. These agents would be tasked with both confusing the field as well as making it look ridiculous to any thinking person. (mission accomplished, Alex!)



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 12:59 PM
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How I see things. The following is my opinion reflecting on what Alex Collier said, (*IF WHAT HE SAYS IS TRUE), plus a little more.

First off, how we should be contacted. I think a great way to start would be through dreams. We don't need to meet them in there but if through very lucid dreams we could be mentored. To add to that, a good chunk of people wouldn't consider themselves crazy because they had one. They can choose to learn from it or blow it off.

The problem is that a good chunk of the time most people wake up and forget the dreams. There might be ways of fixing that.

Second, how we should live. Alex talk about pyramid politics, we'll i think we should have that model upside down.

On the widest part (top) we have the individual. He/She is on the top and no other stage is higher. Below that you have family, followed by community followed by city, state/province, country, and at the very bottom you have the world. What I want to make apparent is that I refer to city, state and country more of land mass sizes and not actual ruling areas.

Individual
V
Family
V
Community
V
City
V
State
V
Country
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World

First off is the idea of self sustainability. At each level, each part should be the most independent possible. Now to elaborate.

The individual would live within a family, which doesn't need to be restricted to just mother/father, brother/sister. Aunt/Uncles and cousins possible. Now the family lives within the community. The family should form a community through shared interests with other families. Communities should form a city however the city is not greater than the communities it is just a designation of size and so on and so forth.

How it is run. I'm still debating this but for the most part i think of RAID on Computer hard drive. For those who don't know what it is, it is a redundant system that rebuilds part when they and damaged or corrupt. So let's say a fire breaks out at a families house, it should be the surrounding families moral responsibility to help them out. Each gives a little and the result is the whole is return through salvage and rebuilding. Now let's say a hurricane hits and destroys a city, well the surrounding cities should follow the same model. This is why it is important to designate levels of structure.

Now the problems.

Freeloading. As we know, there exist many freeloaders in this world. How would freeloaders fit in? They wouldn't. You want to do nothing, go right ahead, don't expect anything in return. This help process would not extend to those who just expect a paycheck to live. We all fall on hard times eventually and need a hand but i think it's about time to smack those outstretched hands who only take.

Trading. As much as we'd like to be independent and have our own resources we will never be able to have products from all 4 corners of the world. Everything should be distributed as needed. Here's where people shout Socialistic pig. Well no, everybody should have the right to what is needed and the excess would then be a commodity to enjoy. This links to Greed.

Greed. I believe that every person is entitled to 100% of their own work, but when is it to much. I believe it is when the profit has stopped coming from physical means. In my opinion, investors/bankers are the scum of the earth. They're basically making money off of interest and other imaginary things while other hard workers are working retail/labor jobs for minimum wage. So they sit on their asses and enjoy while others toil? Doesn't make sense.


Anyways if you managed to read to this point, I congratulate you, this is one of my most EPIC rants. I know there are still MANY flaws in my thinking but to look at todays world and say that this model makes remotely any sense is just dumb. I'd love input. It makes you grow.

We constantly evolve our truths. Debating or researching the matter help define who we are by making us question what we believe.




[edit on 22-9-2009 by EarthFallingApart]



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 01:05 PM
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I thought he stopped doing the lectures because the government threatened him...



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by Longchenpa
He may not be selling books or DVDs, but he is very possibly on a gov. payroll. These agents would be tasked with both confusing the field as well as making it look ridiculous to any thinking person. (mission accomplished, Alex!)



What u are presenting is a possibility but highly improbable. I'm not saying I necessarily buy into everything Collier is saying, as many of his predictions have proven false, but the argument you are presenting is weak based on the fact that he lashes out at the NSA and other alphabet agencies regularly, telling us to beware of them at all times, citing specific legislation and acts that were passed giving these agencies more power. All you have to do is watch some of his presentations. Research, friend, research.






[edit on 22-9-2009 by NightVision]

[edit on 22-9-2009 by NightVision]



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 01:27 PM
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For once I agree with Night Vision. Why would a gov agent warn us not to take the swine flu vaccine? Makes no sense.



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 05:07 PM
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There is allot of truth to what alex is saying...

If you guys want to know more about casini and the mothership that he talks about just check this out...

helloearth.info...

I remember Michael saying that he think he saw Alex on the mothership as a star student in a classroom type of place.



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 06:58 PM
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I have seen a UFO change colors AND disappear before mine, my gf, and my friends eyes...so, just because it isn't real to you does not mean it isn't very real for someone else.



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 08:53 PM
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Originally posted by TheNetherlands
Alex is one of the few i really believe!

I saw an interview with him in which he became very emotional, and then i stumbled upon a 1991 or 1993 interview in which he LITERALLY predicted 9-11. That prediction was so detailed that he must have known it 10 years before it happend.


Oh? There's an interview out there where Alex Collier predicted 9/11? If you or anybody else remembers where to find it, I'd like to see it.



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by NightVision

Originally posted by Longchenpa
He may not be selling books or DVDs, but he is very possibly on a gov. payroll. These agents would be tasked with both confusing the field as well as making it look ridiculous to any thinking person. (mission accomplished, Alex!)



What u are presenting is a possibility but highly improbable.
[edit on 22-9-2009 by NightVision]


I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. If he's not a government agent then he's just an attention-seeking liar instead of a liar for pay.

"research"? In the video you posted, he is saying the earth is like 640 billion years old!! the guy is a complete idiot!!! and there are people sitting there lapping it up, and people watching the video and saying "wow this is really great info!"

[edit on 22-9-2009 by Longchenpa]

[edit on 22-9-2009 by Longchenpa]



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 10:34 PM
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Not sure what year this is from...

FF around 2:50

www.youtube.com...



posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by Longchenpa


I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. If he's not a government agent then he's just an attention-seeking liar instead of a liar for pay.


I respect your argument as a skeptic, and believe in proper reasoning, but the argument you present that Collier is attention seeking is still a weak argument. Between 1994 and 2009 there are still less than 6 or 7 full lectures available to the public.... 4 of which weren't even available until this year. That averages out to roughly one lecture every 2 and a half years.


"research"? In the video you posted, he is saying the earth is like 640 billion years old!! the guy is a complete idiot!!!


The generally accepted age for the Earth is about 4.55 billion years (plus or minus about 1%). Unfortunately, the age cannot be computed directly from material that is solely from the Earth. There is evidence that energy from the Earth's accumulation caused the surface to be molten. Further, the processes of erosion and crustal recycling have apparently destroyed all of the earliest surface. Collier is suggesting that 650 billion years ago was when the gases started forming to create the Earth, 'according to the info. he was given'. To date, science cannot prove or disprove this. All we have are rocks to carbon date, which, according to science could have been recycled when they became molten. In the face of this fact, it is a stretch to deem Mr. Collier an idiot.



and there are people sitting there lapping it up, and people watching the video and saying "wow this is really great info!"


Who is 'lapping it up'? There are about 9 or 10 people in his audience. I didnt see any of them really do anything other than ask direct questions.



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posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by NightVision

Originally posted by Longchenpa

"research"? In the video you posted, he is saying the earth is like 640 billion years old!! the guy is a complete idiot!!!


The generally accepted age for the Earth is about 4.55 billion years (plus or minus about 1%). Unfortunately, the age cannot be computed directly from material that is solely from the Earth. There is evidence that energy from the Earth's accumulation caused the surface to be molten. Further, the processes of erosion and crustal recycling have apparently destroyed all of the earliest surface. Collier is suggesting that 650 billion years ago was when the gases started forming to create the Earth, 'according to the info. he was given'. To date, science cannot prove or disprove this. All we have are rocks to carbon date, which, according to science could have been recycled when they became molten. In the face of this fact, it is a stretch to deem Mr. Collier an idiot.

[edit on 23-9-2009 by NightVision]


The generally accepted age for the solar system is ~4.5 billion years. Heck, the generally accepted age for our whole friggin' universe is 14 billion years, nowhere near Collier's absurd 650 billion years (sic)! Can't you see he's just making this bull# up as he goes along? Not only that, but he has so little respect for the intelligence of his audience, that he cant be bothered to even come up with even remotely plausible lies!

[edit on 23-9-2009 by Longchenpa]



posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 09:38 PM
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he said, our world is controlled by Aliens, what type of Aliens?
Greys or Reptilains or ????



posted on Sep, 23 2009 @ 09:58 PM
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the consensus story is that it is reptillians. the greys are possibly biologically-genetically manufactured as drones by the reptiles, according to one storyline. Other versions have them made by more human-looking aliens like the so-called nordics. Still other variants have them as humanity from the future time-traveling back to recover what they will have lost (emotions, vitality, etc.).

A lot of Collier's spiel is just new-age platitudes and various fragments of the mainline story as it now is told. It is when he tries to be "original" that he shows his ass (so to speak).



posted on Sep, 24 2009 @ 04:43 AM
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Originally posted by SonicInfinity

Originally posted by TheNetherlands
Alex is one of the few i really believe!

I saw an interview with him in which he became very emotional, and then i stumbled upon a 1991 or 1993 interview in which he LITERALLY predicted 9-11. That prediction was so detailed that he must have known it 10 years before it happend.


Oh? There's an interview out there where Alex Collier predicted 9/11? If you or anybody else remembers where to find it, I'd like to see it.


It's in one of his first interviews.
Essentially, he said that the andromedans told him that people need to prepare in july and august 2000 (or close by) because something big is going to change everything. That was back in the early 90's.

Who knows if it was just a lucky guess.
Perhaps, we could make something "big" in any given year. It all depends on the point of view. For example, 9/11 has less meaning in other countries than the US believe it or not. This is one of those things where I wonder if you can smell falsehood by the culture from which the ideas come from, ie. in this case Western concerns.



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