posted on Sep, 26 2009 @ 04:45 AM
There's a lot of muddy water surrounding this issue and I'm not convinced that a lot of the attempts to clear the water doesn't actually make it
I think it's very possible to be nationalist and notbe a racist but, sadly, I think a lot of the nationalists I've met personally
areracist or at least xenophobic*. It's one thing to have pride in heritage, whether it's genetic or cultural, but it's another thing to use
it to decry other people's heritage. Some people don't know where to draw the line and too often 'we're great' becomes 'we're great
andwe're better than you' which is pretty unnecessary and a bit pointless as it's often a case of comparing chalk and cheese or utilises
very selective arguments.
I'm generally sympathetic to a lot of nationalist issues and I honestly believe that for a long time 'Englishness' has somehow got lost in the idea
of 'Britishness' whilst Scotland and so on have been allowed to nurture a cultural identity as well as being part of Britain. A lot of non-English
British complain that Britain is virtually synonymous with England to a lot of people in and outside of Britain, but it's very much a poisoned
chalice: hence so much musing over the last decade or so on the notion of 'Englishness'. Reams on the subject has been printed over the last
I can see how issues such as immigration, population, unemployment &c tie-in to this subject, and actively fuel nationalism and patriotism - and to an
extent I empathise with those that see these things as serious issues - but I honestly think that these are issues that merely muddy the waters, even
if it seems like they're actually pulling the debate into focus.
Britain/UK/England is pretty messed-up and it's 'natural' during problematic times to need a scapegoat. The people actually responsible, the main
two political parties, have a platform to sell us lies and empty promises and it's always the other party's fault and we generally get fobbed-off.
So, subsequently, right or wrong, it's inevitable that demographics without real voices will therefore get blamed: the minorities &c.
The likes of the BNP are capitalising on the fact that their own bogeymen - the ethnic minorities - are getting pointed at by a hoodwinked electorate
as well as the fact that many voters are genuinely disenfranchised due to the pillocks in the main two political parties.
*I'm not saying that's the case with the OP as I wouldn't know as I can't listen to the podcast being on dial-up.