Originally posted by Maddogkull
There are so many theroys, for me the big bounce sounds right, but how did the first universe start? So i'm not sure what to believe. Why cant hubble actually see the big bang? Dosen't seem right. What theroy do you believe in?

In the beginning, God did a spellcheck. And he saw his text after the spellcheck, and it was good.





no seriously, uhm...

there was no beginning.

it's a big 'breathe'

where it goes BANG then after intelligence realizes itself, intelligence begins to unify everything then it all becomes one again eventually then once it's ONE again.. it's lonely and wants to experience more.. so in an act of love to itself in an expression not unlike a massive infinite orgasm.. it goes BANG again and starts all over this time with different outcomes.

on and on in and out like sex ...

forever.

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There was never a start to the universes. Their ifinite. Imploding exploding twoerd each infinite universes for eternity.

I think a few of you have touched on a hypothesis I have been working on for as long as I can remember. Growing up in a Roman Catholic family and than dropping out when my father got sick of their direction in the church here in the US.

Now, I may have cobbled together other peoples work, it still is a work in progress. But if numerous people pointed me in this direction, I cannot recall all of them, so thanks everyone for your help.

Their is a creator, but what we perceive as reality is an illusion. Time does not flow, it just is. All points in time touch all other points in time, hence no flow. Does a tree make a sound if no one sees it? Yes, because someone had to see it or the perception would never have become reality. I believe I got that from someone, have no idea. Now, if someone that is crazy lives in a dream world where dungeons, dragons and princesses are real, do they exist? Of course, because someone has created perception of reality in their mind. Dungeons & Dragons gave this idea. Trust me I am going somewhere with this. Now, the creator has always existed, you have always existed, everyone has always existed, we just change realities and perceptions. The universe cannot be destroyed. Energy does flow, from one time frame or perception. See the creator said let there be light and his perception created light, heavens and earth etc etc. Now the creator is everything, so we are part of him, which has been eternal but eternal is still just a perception.

Still working on it. Once I started a paper/thesis on this but just could not wrap my head around it. Maybe when my perception changes, He will let me know if I am on the right track.

Now I have to get drunk because my brain hurts.

I am not sure how it started but I know how it'll end, with a whimper. All the lights will eventually go out.

how about this theory.
God in his wisdom,created a void/space.
then he filled the void with every known
particle, dust
and then, set the whole lot in motion.
creating galaxies
thus creating time , and a dynamic
star filled miracle.

S+F!
Great post Endisnighe, that is very intriguing and really gets you thinking.
I often ponder on this subject and I'm glad to see these responses

~Renarism

Answer the question correctly and win a Nobel Prize! Sorry but you'll have to put me in the "We don't really know" category along with evolution, creationism, Narwhal mating habits, etc.

There was no beginning to the Universe as it has always been here and always will be here.

It is something that science will never be able to explain because we can only see a small part of the puzzle when higher dimensions are involved that we can not access at this level of existence.

The Universe is only the tip of the ice berg of something even more grand.

I know people are saying it never started becasue it always existed, but how can the universe can always be around?? The has to be a beginning to everything, well thats what I think atleast. For the ones who believe that there wasent a beginning can you please explain with some logic how the universe never had a beginning?? Can someone explain the flaws in the big bang theroy aswell??