There are so many different theroys about how the universe started. What one do you believe?, page 2

reply to post by halfmask

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This is a very intriguing theory of the state of the universe. I am curious as to how all of this -started-.

reply to post by LiquidLight

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Molecules are made up of particles of energy. Energy itself does not die, but only changes form.

reply to post by Agree2Disagree

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I think this makes perfect sense and it is also completely and undeniably incapable of proof.

Thus, the rub of our want!

reply to post by Maddogkull

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It is not that the scientists believe in the theory so much as it takes forever for politics to play out.

As far as the big bounce theory, I am not sure what that means.

As far as the eternity of the universe, then first answer this: How is it that energy is created nor destroyed? It is a fact. Figure that out, and you figure the universe out.

Originally posted by TarzanBeta
reply to post by LiquidLight

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Molecules are made up of particles of energy. Energy itself does not die, but only changes form.

Of course, but when a molecule decays, it will emit radiation. The energy is still there, but the molecule itself no longer is.

reply to post by SLAYER69

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Odd.

If we were to play off of the theory that the thought dimension brought the physical dimension into existence and your theory occurred in the thought dimension, then maybe...

If it is possible that energy dissipates and flows into the thought domain, a domain that is truly potentially infinite, then maybe our universe shrinks.

Takes a lot of bending to get these things to work. No wonder we ended up with the big bang theory.

Reply to post by TarzanBeta

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Oh yes it almost certainly is immune to proof. Our human minds can only grasp so much. The concept of infinity in and of itself throws many brilliant minds for a loop. Then on top of that to think that something has aways been....psssh time for a nap.


IMO, EVERYTHING has ALWAYS been because it is all a part of God. How God has always been is beyond me. Everything has always been, but it only takes shape to be exposed to perception through Gods will. I don't know how else to explain my view on how something could have always existed. .

It really is mind boggling though. Maybe if we used more than 10% of our brains we'd be more capable...

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Originally posted by TarzanBeta
reply to post by halfmask

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This is a very intriguing theory of the state of the universe. I am curious as to how all of this -started-.

It didn't start, you clearly don't understand what a spectral is, there is no "start". Time is simply an illusion looking at the spectral at a certain angle I guess you could say which is our perseption. There is no start to it. "Start" and "End" are merly human concepts and may only be concepts, that is the whole point of the spectral concept.

reply to post by halfmask

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So, if I am understanding this theory correctly, it pretty much correlates to my infinite potential battery theory?

reply to post by halfmask

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Can you please explain more of your concept?

reply to post by Agree2Disagree

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Given that God is the creator/molder so-to-speak, then whatever percentage of our brains we use, it is allowed us to the degree which we work!

I have to admit, I am surprised that there ARE so many different theories regarding the universe.

Originally posted by Maddogkull
reply to post by halfmask

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Can you please explain more of your concept?

It is not my concept... I am merely presenting it. This youtube video sums up Nassim's theory better then I did, and it also gives you an idea of what a spectral shape is.

reply to post by Maddogkull

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As I understand it, the big bang theory includes energy as the original super-force.

Yes, I FULLY AGREE that something had to put things into motion which equates to energy!
That is exactly the predicament. Motion in our perception must have a cause.

The best theory I personally have seen on this thread so far is the idea that thoughts happen in a different dimension than the physical reality and that the physical reality must have been brought motion via a thought. This is assuming that there is conscious thought beyond our perception and our ability to communicate. What other ideas do we have about the "first motion"?

As far as the idea that the original super-force itself was a physically existing energy that required to be put into motion by means of its own volatility... I am not so sure.

You could also assume that the fullness of nothingness which is infinite potential energy powers into this physical universe, forcing motion, and then the kinetic energy translates back into potential energy and so forth via a direct current, sort of like an infinite potential energy battery, which it has now been brought to my attention, would be possible due to infinitely large and infinitely small black holes within what we might visually perceive to be something called the "spectral", which is apparently the geometric infinity.

Meaning that energy would pour out from stars which are the sources of energy and light and would be absorbed into the black hole only to retranslate into infinite potential energy and resend this energy in the form of a source, over and over, in a harmonious sequence which might very well cause the cohesiveness of everything due to micro/macro waves, vibrations if you will, which harmonize with all energy and matter in the universe in order to keep it in a sort of perceived stasis...?

It's 1:18 AM. Okay?

reply to post by halfmask

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Very interesting video!

I got this idea that the spectral shape is one part our universe (balance) and one part our alter-ego (chaos). Balance releases its energy into Chaos which re-energizes and sends forth back into Balance. Balance being light and Chaos being heat.

Wait. Am I playing too much Final Fantasy or what?

I'm convinced I was smarter at the beginning of this thread.

This theory is almost certainly next to correct as far as the state of the universe. But, once again... Energy needs a bump for motion. You can create whatever you want, but without a little bump, it usually don't just get up and walk away on its own! That is, of course, within our perception. Maybe it's true that we cannot even fathom the beginning slap-start of motion because it also is a myth.

Originally posted by TarzanBeta
reply to post by halfmask

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Very interesting video!

I got this idea that the spectral shape is one part our universe (balance) and one part our alter-ego (chaos). Balance releases its energy into Chaos which re-energizes and sends forth back into Balance. Balance being light and Chaos being heat.

Wait. Am I playing too much Final Fantasy or what?

I'm convinced I was smarter at the beginning of this thread.

This theory is almost certainly next to correct as far as the state of the universe. But, once again... Energy needs a bump for motion. You can create whatever you want, but without a little bump, it usually don't just get up and walk away on its own! That is, of course, within our perception. Maybe it's true that we cannot even fathom the beginning slap-start of motion because it also is a myth.

Actually one of Nassim's papers cover that "Bump". Here is the Link. He calls the "Bump" the source, and "Motion" the spin.

Here is the link to his Site.

The PDF file is the first link in the link, I can't figure out how to link the download directly. The paper is called "What is the Origin of Spin?"

(Lots of editing this post, lots of mistakes...)

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