Quick question here... If it was the ex Italy president then why wasn't he arrested? Does anybody still care?

Jeez aint this a hoax? Translation is all wrong.

Originally posted by Exsisto
You think the Western media would ignore the former Italian President naming, in Italy's BIGGEST NEWSPAPER, the "Zionist world" (let's assume that means Israel) as being responsible for 9/11???

Do I think the media, which is controlled by the same people who did 9/11, would ignore a story which explains who did 9/11?

Yes, I do think they would ignore that.

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Cossiga hadn't been President of Italy for a decade when 9/11 happened. He came close to impeachment with his many conflicts of interest, wild notions and plans. He has a solid reputation as a whack job. Lately he has been trying to get a region in Italy to secede. And incidentally is a rabid anti-semite.

Ideal profile for a Truther.


M

Originally posted by mmiichael
Ideal profile for a Truther.

Can you please stop stereotyping "truthers"?

Not everyone who is pushing for re-investigation is a "whack job."

Originally posted by bsbray11

Originally posted by mmiichael
Ideal profile for a Truther.

Can you please stop stereotyping "truthers"?

Not everyone who is pushing for re-investigation is a "whack job."

I went to some early Truther meetings when there were so many unanwered questions. Concerned intelligent people on the whole. The brighter ones all dropped out.

This guy is a whack job. Ideal profile for a Truther.

Anyone pushing for a reinvestigation they had better get their documentation and citations assembled and put it under the nose of someone who can get it activated.

Constantly alluding to it doesn't get it done.


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[edit on 20-9-2009 by mmiichael]

Originally posted by mmiichael


This guy is a whack job. Ideal profile for a Truther.

Anyone pushing for a reinvestigation they had better get their documentation and citations assembled and put it under the nose of someone who can get it activated.

Constantly alluding to it doesn't get it done.


M

And repeating an opinion over and again doesn't make it true. I would love to see a new and unbiased investigation myself. But I don't see it happening. Anyone who has tried to make a real effort to get the ball moving is profiled as a wack job, harrassed, or ignored.

Reply to BSBray

I expressed what I and a few million Italians know about the head of "Ex-Presidents For Truth."

But he's government. So I guess you can't believe a word he says.

I also addressed what you said about the need for a reinvestigation.
That seems to get ignored in favour of analyzing remarks.

So, again, if Truthers want an investigation why isn't there formal documentation being presented to the people who can activate it?


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[edit on 20-9-2009 by mmiichael]

Originally posted by mmiichael

Reply to BSBray

I expressed what I and a few million Italians know about the head of "Ex-Presidents For Truth."

But he's government. So I guess you can't believe a word he says.

I also addressed what you said about the need for a reinvestigation.
That seems to get ignored in favour of analyzing remarks.

So, again, if Truthers want an investigation why isn't there formal documentation being presented to the people who can activate it?


M

[edit on 20-9-2009 by mmiichael]

There have been formal investigations that were blocked by the 911 commission. George Bush effectively made any idea of private investigations illegal and prosecutable by the patriot act. All you have to do to find the information on this is type BUSH BLOCKS PRIVATE INVESTIGATIONS INTO 911 into your google search engine and tons of valid information shows up.

I hope that answers your question. And no, I'm not attacking you.

As much as I believe that the Mossad was somehow involved -- mostly because of AIPAC's involvement with the NeoCons and their PNAC group -- I still think it's pointless to pursue this angle until we get an actual trial for the Bush administration (one day before NEVER).

And maybe the Truth movement has people who were involved in 9/11 trying to guide it from the inside -- always pushing the most unprovable nonsense, instead of asking the Government to prove THEIR nonsense.

Are we once again forming a circular firing Squad?

>> The Italian is likely to know important information -- it was perhaps the NeoCon Berlesconni's group who made the bogus Osama video that was pointed to, to make a connection with 9/11. Other than that, and it was just the FBI's word finding a briefcase and manuals in rental cars -- you know, after they ignored the warnings of one of the alleged hijacker's HANDLERS.

I'm sick to death of this topic. It's like talking about watching your dad cheat on your mother -- you have to get it off your chest -- but now everyone is blaming you for getting your dad in trouble and ruining the marriage. I don't think MOST of us chose to be TRUTHER's -- as if we were just waiting for an excuse to lose faith in our country.

>> We saw a demolition at the WTC. Recently, we saw a video of WTC 7 -- and it was unmistakably a demolition without the benefit of magic kerosene and in this case, from the bottom up.


We cannot SOLVE 9/11 -- until we address the torture and war crimes. It's not as if there is any way to hide a war, or to sneak in WMDs after 6 years. There are witnesses to these crimes. There are people at the CIA who would likely hang for this, if we had justice in this country.

We don't have investigators, or justice, or good people at the helm. The same Bush culprits like Cheney's death squad flunky is running the war in Afghanistan. The same culprits run the CIA. Paulson and Bernanke still at the Fed. Tenent still not under arrest. The people who have much to lose, are required to investigate themselves?

Get justice back, secure the courts, and defang the military and CIA -- BEFORE you bother going after the 9/11 truth.


>> Reading Sibel Edmond's deposition -- and the cavalier reaction it got by those who are tasked with protecting the US and the media ignoring, should tell you that most of the people who should be upset, are likely compromised and owned by one or more foreign countries.

The sex favors, drugs, money and any conceivable corruption have been used to compromise our leaders and media. Denny Hastert was working for Turkey. If Sibel Edmonds were translating documents of the Mossad, they'd probably find that Bush and Cheney were on their hook.

Does everyone forget the prostitutes and poker at the Watergate hotel? The head of the CIA was involved and money from Homeland Security's Limo budget paid for it. Do we not understand the blackmail and rewards at play? The recent revelation of "The Family" and their brothels for self-serving pseudo Christian politicians.

Our leadership, security organizations, and most every oversight committee, are eaten up with corruption. Why was Bush able to get so much done, to harm our liberties when acting the buffoon? The internal spying was probably used to get dirt on a very dirty bunch of people.

Self-serving people, who have no allegiance to anyone but themselves -- is this a group that wants real investigation? No. Any foreign government, private company or green aliens from Venus could be calling that jerk-offs over the phone and reminding them of their great weekend on the Marrianas islands.


>> So forget about going after this directly. The traitors of 9/11 won't come to justice, as long as everybody in power is on someone else's payroll.

Stop with your theories about non-radioactive nukes, or jewish bankers. Even if everybody who profited was from a certain background -- just talk about crooked bankers. Every time we criticized Bush -- thier administration said; "How dare you insult America/the Troops/memory of 9-11." These weasels hide behind everything noble.

The best chance we have is to go after the war crimes. Very provable and we can get international support. We don't need "theories" or video tapes (they all got destroyed by the "innocent" already).


>> Damn I'm pissed about so much, and I think if everybody REALLY considers how corrupt the administration must have been to engineer 9-11, they will realize that these people would do ANYTHING to not let the next administration bring them to justice. 6 nukes were accidentally flown on a plane, only 5 were recovered. Dick Cheney had his own hit squad. Anthrax was sent to the only two politicians who could stop the Patriot Act. Oh, and about 200,000 dead in Iraq, and 1 million homeless. 9-11 is a drop in the bucket to people who die each year in America to eke out a little more profit.

Originally posted by mmiichael
The Truther obsession involves absolutely denying that the US was attacked by Muslim extremist

Once again, what logic or civility do you see in stereotyping a large and diverse group of people, and always doing it in a derogatory manner?

Originally posted by bsbray11

Originally posted by mmiichael
The Truther obsession involves absolutely denying that the US was attacked by Muslim extremist

Once again, what logic or civility do you see in stereotyping a large and diverse group of people, and always doing it in a derogatory manner?

One again you avoid anything relevantsaif, taking an opportunity to demonstrate noble outrage and indignation.

As points I try to make on serious issues routinely get dismissed or labelled on rants, I reserve my decorum for those who reciprocate.

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