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Originally posted by mellisamouse
I married one who was verbally and physically abusive, who then cheated, and I was the one who was looked down at for wanting out or wanting help....
The elders kids were all being cronically drunk (underage) and according to them you would be held accountable for not telling something like that, but of course 20 against one, they turned it around on me and kicked ME out....
Originally posted by miriam0566
Originally posted by mellisamouse
I married one who was verbally and physically abusive, who then cheated, and I was the one who was looked down at for wanting out or wanting help....
The elders kids were all being cronically drunk (underage) and according to them you would be held accountable for not telling something like that, but of course 20 against one, they turned it around on me and kicked ME out....
why would they do that? that makes no sense.
Originally posted by mellisamouse
I KNOW! But they believe at the mouth of 2 or more witnesses (all the underage kids sticking togehter against me) a matter will be established...I also prayed to God, that if this wasn't the place were I could best do his will, then to show me somehow because I was sooooo stuck.
Originally posted by miriam0566
Originally posted by mellisamouse
I KNOW! But they believe at the mouth of 2 or more witnesses (all the underage kids sticking togehter against me) a matter will be established...I also prayed to God, that if this wasn't the place were I could best do his will, then to show me somehow because I was sooooo stuck.
i wasnt agreeing with you.
your claim LITERALLY makes no sense. They cant "kick" you out without biblical reason to do so which basically means you are leaving our big chunks of the story.
but after reading some of you later posts, im beginning to see more
Originally posted by mellisamouse
Oh, I see, sorry for the misunderstanding, basically the kids banned together and lied and said I was the drunk, etc, and I think they added a few other things I hadn't done, and since I refused to "admit" to things I know I hadn't done, I looked like the liar, not all of their kids...
Originally posted by mellisamouse
reply to post by TangoVooDoo
Inspite of their constant bible study, and mine, I was still not clear in my heart on these subjects.....I am in need of clarity, but I do feel it is on the way.
As I said in a previous post, mabey I needed some trials to learn enough to even be entirley open, as I was a bit of a pig headed know-it-all back in my early 20's when I first discovered the bible...
I think I may have been somewhat humbled since then... ( I hope, lol)
Originally posted by TangoVooDoo
JW's deny Jesus is God in the flesh because in their theology Jesus was the first born of God. God created Jesus before all other things, including the universe and earth. In his bodily form he is known as Jesus but prior to that he was known as Michael the arch angel. Yet within the very pages of the JW's own bible, the New World Translation (of which I have) we read this from John 20.
Originally posted by miriam0566
Originally posted by TangoVooDoo
JW's deny Jesus is God in the flesh because in their theology Jesus was the first born of God. God created Jesus before all other things, including the universe and earth. In his bodily form he is known as Jesus but prior to that he was known as Michael the arch angel. Yet within the very pages of the JW's own bible, the New World Translation (of which I have) we read this from John 20.
and john 20 is the only passage you can hang on to.
meanwhile the bible DOES say that jesus was the firstborn, and that god used him to create.
so make your claims all you want. the bible disagrees.
plenty of threads where this subject has be hashed to death
Originally posted by TangoVooDoo
Demonstrate to me using sound logic and Scripture how my interpretation is incorrect.
Originally posted by miriam0566
Originally posted by mellisamouse
Oh, I see, sorry for the misunderstanding, basically the kids banned together and lied and said I was the drunk, etc, and I think they added a few other things I hadn't done, and since I refused to "admit" to things I know I hadn't done, I looked like the liar, not all of their kids...
lol so, noone else in the congregation sees you drunk, but a few kids ban together and get you kicked out.
im sorry but that doesnt sound like the truth. least to me.