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PID - Motivations for the Murder of Paul McCartney

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posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by switching yard
Revolution 9 was considered by the inner circle to be the most important track on the album. Just a hunch.

John Todd said the White Album was the "witches' Bible."


They wanted it in there, but had to surround it with lots of other songs so as to downplay it just a bit. Get what I'm saying?

Yes. Very astute of you!

A friend of mine did a back-masking of "Yellow Submarine." It seems to support my theory that Paul was shot execution-style & that it is linked to the Illuminati.



This was what my friend transcribed:


In everybody
Hear him, Beausoleil
Hear him, Beausoleil
Hear him, Beausoleil
In everybody
Hear him, Beausoleil
Hear him, Beausoleil
Hear him, Beausoleil
In everybody [Sounds of occasional passing vehicles or planes]
Hear him, Beausoleil
Hear him, Beausoleil
Hear him, Beausoleil
In everybody
Ah Hah...Fear he must (hear him though)
Why are they yawning? (are they yawning?)
Here in Venice (Here today)
Why embellish (mur-mur-mur-mur-murder, he has)
Here in the water (be warned)
They'll all be mad (yes)
[continual heart beats]
Hear them knockin' (from all of these)
[whooshing sound as if a car passing on a motorway)
Stand back, stand back [Ticking Clock then a bell ringing and Clock bell chime]
[Bell ringing by the faint words "I'm Paul]
Get your hands off him (your head's coming off, your head's coming off)
(stay back)
[Ticking Clock] (no one else around)
Now get him in this hood
Get your hands off him [sounds of metals screeching]
Get your hands off
[ringing mechanical sounds then closing of door, ambulance door?]
[Sounds of a beating heart throughout the singing next]
In everybody
Hear him, Beausoleil
Hear him, Beausoleil
Hear him, Beausoleil
In everybody
Hear him, Beausoleil
Hear him, Beausoleil
Hear him, Beausoleil
[sound of CPR being performed followed by a moan]
[doppler effect of echo of unknown machinary, possibly passing traffic]
In everybody
Hear him, Beausoleil
Hear him, Beausoleil
Hear him, Beausoleil
[passing a band on a highway] Note: at 5:00 AM? signify Billy's Here Now arrival to the band?
Go ahead kill him [strange bird-like flute sound]
Help me out here
Just kill him (air line...pull it)
[Scream] Is that it?
He's dead
[Screams continue]
All hear me, dead
Here it goes
In everybody
Hear him, Beausoleil
Hear him, Beausoleil
Hear him, Beausoleil
[various sounds near water or passing motor, bells]
You can end this if you get rid of him
[thumping sound of a heartbeat in the background]
Screw us, hear a bus [last heartbeats]
Have them wait
Forever a soul now [bell ringing and cow moos]
Yes, they had to
Yes, they had to hate him
Paul, they had him murdered
That's the game [or does it say "investigate?"]

www.youtube.com...


This is what sunssol wrote:


The Venice and Beausoleil references may be familiar with those who have followed the clues for a long time now. Venice, California, being where Manson met his earliest followers. Bobby Beausoleil was one of these disciples, a Satanist, and performed the first murder of Gary Hinman on July 27, 1969. He also worked with Kenneth Anger on Lucifer Rising.

en.wikipedia.org...

www.imdb.com...

www.charliemanson.com...

only1rad.proboards.com...


Dave McGowan, among others, has linked Manson to CIA/intell.




posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by switching yard
When I am in my deep state of remote viewing or psychic thinking, when contemplating the Paul Is Dead topic, I keep getting a vision of Aldous Huxley as a big player in it.

The Wiki article on Huxley is worth reading with PID in mind...

en.wikipedia.org...


Switching Yard, your suggestions about getting to the bottom of Paul's death are most likely the right approach. Taking the low road, sifting through scarce leads which may be planted to be misleading will probably bring more frustration than truth. The high road will be to first understand what was behind the engineering of society using The Beatles as a pivotal hinge to wrap our minds around a new hypnotic reality.


What their motivation was to destroy family structures and cultural ties cannot be readily apparent without considering the historical context and the communication between key players of the crew doing the nasty job. For reference, there is a quote found in the wiki webpage you linked to above, which goes as follows:



On 21 October 1949, Huxley wrote to George Orwell, author of Nineteen Eighty-Four, congratulating Orwell on "how fine and how profoundly important the book is". In his letter to Orwell, he predicted:

"Within the next generation I believe that the world's leaders will discover that infant conditioning and narco-hypnosis are more efficient, as instruments of government, than clubs and prisons, and that the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience."



It is useful to see these two initiates in the plans of the New World Order, as it is today known. Huxley wasn't mincing his words. It seems interesting that we have the recurring theme of the Illuminati, they seem to be wishing to lighten the load of our enslaved human condition by feeding us fictional placebos in replacement of honest truths. Would they know of some greater reason why we must be victims of destiny? Or is this a matter of choice, there choice to subjugate the masses to their delusional excesses of totalitarian power?


Huxley, having been rejected by Hollywood and even by Walt Disney, despite the latter being deeply involved in the CIA mind control programs, he used his talents in other structures, probably behind the scenes. While this does not stem from intuition I can attest, having spent time in private conversation with him in a context of 'follow up', that there might be ties to R.D. Laing who was involved in programing people in those days. The entire Tavistock octopus is worth unearthing to examine its tentacles one by one. Otherwise, it will have won.



Originally posted by switching yard
This is actually counter-intuitive because I've known for many years that Huxley died on the same day JFK was killed...

...The only wild theory that would explain him being involved (that I can think of) would be if Huxley's terminal illness and death were faked, he went undercover at the highest level of British Intelligence and was then involved with Tavistock. When he died on the same day as JFK, there was very little news coverage because all the reporters were on the JFK story. If TPTB wanted no attention paid to his death then that would have been the perfect day for him to "pass away", assuming they also knew in advance the date they were going to take out JFK.


Having memories of a mind controller who had officially died years earlier, I won't take exception to your theory which is far from 'wild' and would more closely match standard operating procedure for agents going underground for extended periods of time. They would need to cut off contact from all their relatives and relations, who would otherwise seek them out if they thought them alive. Simulated death can serve multiple purposes such as socially unplugging embedded agents used as submarines or increasing the behind the scenes secrecy of tactical teams.


Whether Huxley died when claimed or remained in activity, he inspired and contributed to the use of drugs and mind control as privileged means of ensuring social compliance. The above quoted letter to Orwell was dated 1949, some 15 years before the period we have been concentrating our research on. It may be more productive to examine the rough drafts of the New World Order's implementation through their writings.


Once correlated to known events having followed, we may better construe what actually happened and why. Clues found in their speeches, articles and correspondence, as well as testimony from those who knew them, would all be precious sources worth examining. Even if painstaking, all it takes is a single clue to put us on the track of the truth. For everything else might fall into place, hopefully not too conveniently...



posted on Oct, 13 2009 @ 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob
About Ringo: I think he was replaced sometime between "Beatles for Sale" & "Help!" I don't necessarily think he died, though. Obviously, he couldn't go back to his old life in Liverpool, so maybe he ended up living in seclusion somewhere.

About Satanism:
1) the Illuminati are Luciferian
2) intell agencies use satanism as a cover


Falcon, you know a great deal more than most about Beatles substitutions, thanks for providing those pictures.


Also, regarding Illuminati Satanism, although I dread to talk about such things knowing them too well for being real, here are some observations.


The cult of Lucifer is prevalent among the ruling Elite. It involves inversed belief systems where good is evil and vice versa. Therefore you can understand that the measure of cruelty of their ritual practices is directly correlated to this. It is a cult of bad deeds. They disguise them as good deeds to elicit complicities, to deceive Masonic implementers and to get that extra laugh in when walking the sheeple to the slaughterhouse.


However, I am not sure that Intelligence agencies use Satanism as a cover. There is reason to believe that it can serve internal purposes to test or forge loyalties within their organizations, as well as a motivational tool to inspire the most devious deeds to operatives during their missions. Twisted minds and ghastly acts is what their business is all about. What better venue than Satanism to bring these two qualities together?


Masonic membership is already a co-option prerequisite for most agencies, higher level Masonic Luciferian practices is probably not only viewed favorably but would ensure upward mobility within the ranks. It should therefore come as no surprise that the CIA and other similar alphabet gangs operate child kidnapping rings, don't ask me for what purpose.


I think this is what James Paul McCartney was denouncing in the Butcher Album. Not that there are upper class Londoners engaging in occult rituals, but that the very organization The Beatles were furthering the plans of was itself a key operator of worldwide satanic child abuse, torture and murder.


We must ask ourselves what is the nature of the Illuminati who have brought this scourge to humanity, what their cult of Lucifer represents to them and how they intend on converting us? We must also ponder how our own nations' government agencies grant their allegiance to them rather than to the citizens they are pledged to protect and serve?


The answer regarding the CIA is simple to find. It was founded by importing Nazi Occult Spy Networks, proving greater allegiance to Hitler than the United States of America. We know what Hitler's occult religion was through his companionship with Aleister Crowley. The CIA is consequently at the very least complacent, if not confounded with Nazi satanism, and the MI6 can't be far. We are a far cry from James Bond propaganda movies where there is such a thing as good guys. In reality these apples are so rotten they're contaminating the tree they grow on.


Regarding The Beatles, we must not forget the Satanic symbolism of Apple Records as the fruit given by the Devil. Each of their records was thus symbolized as the forbidden fruit that would toss its buyer out of the Garden of Eden. Until we leave this world, we can only make assumptions about the Garden of Eden. Given what the Illuminati have done to manipulate our social construct, we can evaluate their action on the basis of a religious quest.


What if the Garden of Eden was our holographic representation of reality, which we hold in our minds and souls? By introducing the Apple of Sin into our inner world, we can find ourselves ejected from that reality. In practice, this metaphor works: Apple brought with it the seeds of destruction, and try as we might, the many great things we miss about our world before they did the deed are lost forever. And we are all at risk of losing our souls, no longer having that special place to live out our lives keeping us on the right track.



posted on Oct, 14 2009 @ 02:24 AM
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Good stuff. I like the Apple/Eden connection.

Here's an idea one of the mods on PID came up w/. You know how Dr. Peter Beter was saying that politicians had been replaced by doubles, & US politics had thus been infiltrated? What if something like that happened to the Beatles?



posted on Oct, 14 2009 @ 07:17 AM
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Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob
... You know how Dr. Peter Beter was saying that politicians had been replaced by doubles, & US politics had thus been infiltrated? What if something like that happened to the Beatles?


Hi Faulcon,


There is definitely a deep, close, intertwined connection between Paul's replacement by Faul and the current usurpation of political power by replacing key government officials and elected politicians.


Although the earlier type of event is most likely the replacement of leaders by impostors, something which history has a number of accounts of, control over politicians has become a matter of routine for the Illuminati who seem to be today granting higher priority to conditioning the minds of the masses, which is in physical reality where the real power lies, given that in any event they are the transmitters and enforcers of political power.


One hypothesis regarding The Beatles being used to test impostor replacement is that their high visibility and ensuing likely high degree of recognizability was used to experiment with mass control of identity perceptions and the disconnect of crowds from significant features to instead focus on symbolic representations of what people stand for. It is maybe a first step towards a virtual leader, one which doesn't need to have any form of physical appearance in substance but which incarnates or rather in virtual form only "suggests" that HE exists.


This experimentation with how abstract Big Brother can become and still remain effective is one possible reason for what we have experienced with various members of The Beatles being replaced. Another could be to test, in a "neutral setting" outside the laboratory, how populations would respond to detectable impostor replacement while suspending the observations of their senses in order to obey orchestrated suggestions.


This could have been a preliminary step to replacing people in all walks of life to ensure their group's total control of society both indirectly through cultural conditioning and directly by pulling the strings of decision makers. Those who refused to even consider that PID may have inadvertently precipitated the subsequent campaign of replacement of politicians and people in many key professions by doubles of dubious origins.


Regarding the Satanist connection, I have several observations which may or may not be worthy of pursuing, left to your discretion. The first is that we can assume that one of the functions of Satanic Ritual Practice is to induce a trance state in the participants in a ritual. While it is indeed a cult of evil, horrible acts and the accompanying emotional shock energy of them serves a secondary purpose of deepening the trance state presumably to unleash occult powers for the participants. The Magus or Magician of Tarot cards dating back to the ancient Egyptian Book of Life illustrate that such a hypnotic function goes back as long as Satanism has been around.


This may be one reason why Satan is invoked so often, not only in backmasking of Beatles songs but even in forward motion of Rock n'Roll lyrics. even if voluntarily blurred to increase their hypnotic effect. Satan serves the function of your Hypnotic Handler and we can assume that at least for this purpose Satanic ritual is a form of programming maintenance for mind controlled subjects used throughout history. No wonder the CIA and other intelligence agencies are deeply involved in such practices going as far as organizing their supply in fresh flesh from innocent victims.


This may also be why Satanists use the horned fingers hand sign to recognize one another. They are sometimes not even conscious of doing this, being shocked and frightened when told what they've done. These sighs possibly heighten the suggestibility of onlookers who have previously been under Satanic control, giving them an unconscious embedded message when such a sign is used.


The Beatles being replaced is a manifestation of Illuminati control over our minds. It is also an experiment using the highest degree possible of media coverage and the largest imaginable audience to validate impostor techniques, mind control messages, manipulation of social reality and domination over world populations. Analyzing the issues involved is for us a key to seeing, exposing and opposing Illuminati control over society which has lasted centuries beyond its time. Even the horrid chaos they plan to use to thrust us willingly into their warped Global control is far better than the ongoing rape of our soul and conscience.


Today the Press has been infiltrated. Many know this has been done by intelligence operatives. However, are they really just operatives or is there some deeper form of control going on even without their conscious consent? If they've been party to the indoctrination of sects, secret societies, ceremonial rituals or psych ops training then they're not in the loop unless at the most senior level. And mass media is not the only target. Other professions where information gathering is vital for crisis prevention or conflict management, such as personal body care ranging form hair salons to massage parlors are additional examples which may have replaced the church confessional for open research purposes.


Any large institution, organization of company is also the target of implanted agents. These need not be officially employed on the payroll as many subterfuges exist which bring people to collaborate, ranging from vanity, patriotism, bribes, masonic obedience, networks and, or course, the inevitable ploy of contrived false pretenses to enlist genuine goodwill. However, it is visible within many such groups that at least a number of key actors are implanted operatives, whatever tentacle of the Illuminati they work for. These organize into cabals, executing the equivalent of Coup d'etat inside ordinary companies. We can assume the channels and methods of controlling them are wide ranging in nature, but all could be sourced at their highest level within the Illuminati game plan.


Increasing our understanding of the logic of the Illuminati Matrix and its many ramifications within Intelligence Agencies, Satanic Cults, Corporate Organizations, International Institutions, Scientific Academies, Social Networks and programs to manipulate our culture and control our thoughts is KEY to determining who killed James Paul McCartney and why.



posted on Oct, 14 2009 @ 07:30 AM
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Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob

This is what sunssol wrote:


The Venice and Beausoleil references may be familiar with those who have followed the clues for a long time now. Venice, California, being where Manson met his earliest followers. Bobby Beausoleil was one of these disciples, a Satanist, and performed the first murder of Gary Hinman on July 27, 1969. He also worked with Kenneth Anger on Lucifer Rising.

en.wikipedia.org...

Dave McGowan, among others, has linked Manson to CIA/intell.


This may be in reference to Bobby Beausoleil. One other possible connection might be the town of the Beausoleil which is a suburb of Monaco, which itself is the main CIA laundering operation in Europe host to Mafia shell companies and Illuminati congregation?

I have no other leads which would recombine with this interpretation, so it is just an open suggestion tossed out there in case somebody else had concurring info.

The Illuminati play rough even with their own. Let us not forget how Princess Grace of Monaco, formerly actress Grace Kelly whose brother had mob connections and whose cousin John Lehman, Jr. had intelligence oversight as U.S. Secretary of Navy, died in mysterious circumstances with her car brakes sabotaged. Nor should we omit another Illuminati connection with Monaco's Societe des Bains de Mer run by Intel/Mafia Aristotle Socrates Onassis who went on to marry the Zionist implant wife and widow of JFK, Jackie O. (my gosh, I can't believe it !)

But maybe Monaco and Beausoleil are not at all related to Paul's death, just another place that nasty stuff goes down.

[edit on 14-10-2009 by Getsmart]



posted on Oct, 14 2009 @ 08:25 AM
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Lots to digest and think about. Excellent points made by everyone.

I intuit that the Illuminati have been trying mass mind control experiments for quite some time.

King James I, of questionable character, presides over the massively influential King James Bible (not saying I have any evidence of him being Illuminati). Then you have the works of Shakespeare and the controversy about whether there ever was such a person or if the works were written by perhaps Francis Bacon (utopia) or a secret committee of royal court insiders.

I'm not sure of what I'm saying but sometimes something is introduced to world society at large that ends up actually changing the world.

It's like they engineer something very big and promote it and have an agenda for how it will change the world. Social engineering in many cases does not happen by accident.

I feel like there is quite a maze of connections and secret history behind-the-scenes. I've always thought that our accepted version of world history is strewn with lies and deceptions.

If Illuminati gained control over the Lennon-McCartney songwriting team, broke it up, replaced Paul (and or others) and then controlled the songs, album art and messages both overt and covert, they then had a terrific tool for mass mind control through the saturated airplay and mass worldwide distribution of the records.

I have a lot of reading and research to do before I feel really up to speed on the Illuminati, Tavistock, and all kinds of other themes we've been discussing. It's a struggle to dig up some of the possible connections, but fascinating as well.



posted on Oct, 15 2009 @ 11:06 AM
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An interesting website...

www.illuminati-news.com...

So, my current line of thinking is that the Illuminati has and will today staff the production, promotion and distribution of social engineering projects by secret committee.

For example...

King James Bible produced by committee

Shakespeare's works produced by committee
please see this link en.wikipedia.org...

Beatles psychedelic period works (lyrical, musical, visual, symbolist) social engineering experiment produced by committee (beyond the Beatles themselves)

All three of these projects resulted in profound, world changing, mass consciousness changing significance. They all came out of Britain.

The King James Bible excluded important texts, thus manipulating mass religion.

Shakespeare's works gave the common person a glimpse inside the royal court, however laden with manipulated disinfo.

Beatles psychedelic period... macabre death and occult themes, the promotion of powerful drugs, fill in the blanks...



posted on Oct, 15 2009 @ 12:36 PM
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Part 6 of PID on Freezone Radio:



Part 7:


Part 8:


BTW, Conspiracy Cafe closed the PID thread faster than any other forum thus far. It seems that they weren't able to handle/allow any discussion of Illuminati involvement. That is Truth suppression at work.


[edit on 15-10-2009 by faulconandsnowjob]



posted on Oct, 15 2009 @ 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob
BTW, Conspiracy Cafe closed the PID thread faster than any other forum thus far. It seems that they weren't able to handle/allow any discussion of Illuminati involvement. That is Truth suppression at work.



Nah. They just found your theories implausible.

From StarLord (Staff Member):



I've seen some stupid # in my time but this takes the cake. I can fully understand why you would want a toe hold in Icke's world.


That's the chance you take when you move away from your controlled environment of the PID boards.


[edit on 15-10-2009 by The Gorn]



posted on Oct, 15 2009 @ 04:35 PM
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reply to post by The Gorn
 


You have obviously not read the OP, or if you did you are stupid.
You off-topic and agitating post has been reported because, even though you may disagree and not like it, this thread was set up precisely for the exercise of speculation and tying up of seemingly disparate and unrelated happenings into a coherent whole.
This thread is for ideas about the motivation behind the speculated death of Paul McCartney, not a place for the same old trolls to consistently try to derail.

Start your own thread if you want to approach from the angle you're taking.
You're not welcome in here if all you do is agitate.



posted on Oct, 15 2009 @ 04:59 PM
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reply to post by aorAki
 


I was responding to a direct quote.

Your post is off topic.



posted on Oct, 15 2009 @ 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by aorAki
reply to post by The Gorn
 


You have obviously not read the OP, or if you did you are stupid.


Maybe your fellow PIDDERS are stupid...


Originally posted by berenike
reply to post by switching yard
 


The dates of the Satanic / Luciferian Calendar are listed on this site:

www.rumormillnews.com...



Originally posted by switching yard
An interesting website...

www.illuminati-news.com...

So, my current line of thinking is that the Illuminati has and will today staff the production, promotion and distribution of social engineering projects by secret committee.

For example...


Er, this thread's aim was supposed to be:

Motivations for the Murder of Paul McCartney

What the hell have the above posts got to do with the 'motivations behind the murder of Paul McCartney'?

Nothing.

There are other examples too.

Posters in this thread are continually going off topic, yet you don't cry about that, do you?

Double standards. :shk:

The Gorn was simply replying to an OFF TOPIC post made by faulcon about Conspiracy Cafe not putting up with her ridiculous PID nonsense.

Yet you pick on The Gorn and cry "off topic" yet say nothing about faulcon's off topic post!

Double standards. :shk:

If you PIDDERS can't stay on topic then other people are quite entitled to comment on the PIDDERS off topic posts, as PIDDERS have obviously given up adhering to the spirit and focus of this thread's aim.


Start your own thread if you want to approach from the angle you're taking.


We have - and we are quite capable of staying on topic!

www.belowtopsecret.com...

This is a public thread. Stop acting as if you own it. You have your own private PIDDER board at PID MISS HIM.

If you want a 'private' discussion, where no one is allowed to disagree with you - go there!

If you want to focus on the imaginative 'motivations behind the murder of Paul McCartney', then fine, I don't think PIAERS will bother posting in this thread.

However, if you are going to post off topic claims, then don't be surprised if a PIAER feels entitled to comment.

Simple, really! Stay on topic.


[edit on 15-10-2009 by Dakudo]



posted on Oct, 15 2009 @ 05:44 PM
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The 'pid'ers' posts are relevant because they are investigating the background mechanisms.
It mustr pain you that this thread is still going despite your 'best' attempts to derail it....if you can't see the relevance in their posts you aren't reading properly...whereas your posts and the Gorn's are there purely for disruption and to repeat how stupid/dissillusioned you think they are...your posts add nothing...mine add nothing either apart from letting you know you are way off topic when you don't discuss according to the OP.

As farmers here in New Zealand say: :" get away back, get out of it, ya mongrel!"



posted on Oct, 15 2009 @ 05:49 PM
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Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob
BTW, Conspiracy Cafe closed the PID thread faster than any other forum thus far. It seems that they weren't able to handle/allow any discussion of Illuminati involvement.


Here is but a very small selection of threads discussing Illuminati involvement in various conspiracy theries:

www.conspiracycafe.net.../topic/6501-illuminati-33s-in-the-media-and-press/page__hl__illuminati

www.conspiracycafe.net.../topic/8253-the-illuminati-ii/page__hl__illuminati

www.conspiracycafe.net.../topic/20325-conspiracyarchive-illuminati-sightseeing-masonic-congress-of-wilhelmsbad/page__hl__ill uminati

www.conspiracycafe.net.../topic/22672-american-underground-feed-the-satanic-illuminati-conspiracy/page__hl__illuminati


Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob
It seems that they weren't able to handle/allow any discussion of Illuminati involvement.


As I have proven, Conspiracy Cafe is quite able to "handle/allow discussion of Illuminati involvement" in many conspiracy theories. Your claim is ridiculous.

The fact that your robotic posting of your alleged PID "evidence" only drew ridicule and contempt from the conspiracy theorists paints its own sorry picture of the credibility of PID.

Even most conspiracy theorists don't believe in PID!
:shk:


That is Truth suppression at work.


There is no "truth" to suppress.

Paul is alive:










posted on Oct, 15 2009 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by aorAki
The 'pid'ers' posts are relevant because they are investigating the background mechanisms.


Well, if that's true - you'll be able to explain why the following post is "relevant" to "background mechanisms."

(WARNING! The poster even admits it's off topic in the first line... but I'm sure you'll be able to wriggle around that and give me an 'answer', won't you?)

Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob
Not sure how this fits in yet, but it seems significant, somehow...


... Much of [Khalil] Gibran's writings deal with Christianity, especially on the topic of spiritual love. His poetry is notable for its use of formal language, as well as insights on topics of life using spiritual terms. Gibran's best-known work is The Prophet, a book composed of twenty-six poetic essays.




And perhaps you'll also be able to explain how the following post is on topic and "relevant" to "background mechanisms."


Originally posted by faulconandsnowjob
BTW, Conspiracy Cafe closed the PID thread faster than any other forum thus far. It seems that they weren't able to handle/allow any discussion of Illuminati involvement. That is Truth suppression at work.


I predict you won't be able to.


Originally posted by aorAki
It mustr pain you that this thread is still going


Ha, no! For the most part it's been nothing more than a boring, rambling dirge of nonsense from about 3 people who compensate for their lack of evidence with their over-active imaginations.

[edit on 15-10-2009 by Dakudo]



posted on Oct, 15 2009 @ 06:42 PM
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Originally posted by aorAki
It mustr pain you that this thread is still going despite your 'best' attempts to derail it....


Since this is an answer to a direct quote, it is on topic.

The truth is we love for these threads to keep going. As can be seen with those other threads, the posts of faulcon and her cronies do more to discredit PID than anything we can do. We don't try to suppress them or cover them up. We quote from them. We link to the threads on our forum. We LOVE to point them out.

Please. Keep going.

[edit on 15-10-2009 by edmond dantes]



posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 01:18 AM
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This is from the wiki link above regarding whether the works of Shakespeare were written by a secret committee...

"In 1856, William Henry Smith put forth the claim that the author of Shakespeare's plays was Sir Francis Bacon, a major scientist, philosopher, courtier, diplomat, essayist,historian and successful politician, who served as Solicitor General (1607), Attorney General (1613) and Lord Chancellor (1618).

Smith was supported by Delia Bacon in her book The Philosophy of the Plays of Shakespeare Unfolded(1857), in which she maintains that Shakespeare's work was in fact written by a a group of writers, including Francis Bacon, Sir Walter Raleigh and Edmund Spenser, who collaborated for the purpose of inculcating a philosophical system, for which they felt that they themselves could not afford to assume the responsibility. She professed to discover this system beneath the superficial text of the plays. Constance Mary Fearon Pott (1833–1915) adopted a modified form of this view, founding the Francis Bacon Society in 1885, and publishing her Bacon-centered theory in Francis Bacon and his secret society (1891).

I find it very interesting, this model of a secret committee producing great works that the common masses would flock to see and read and be influenced by. Perhaps this model was so successful in deceiving the public that TPTB in London knew very well of it and set about to gain control of the powerful Beatlemania "for the purpose of inculcating a philosophical system". We must examine the mass social results of the psychedelic output of the Beatles to begin to understand what philosophical system TPTB wanted to inculcate the masses with.

I know, from having lived through those years, that the world changed during the Beatles' psychedelic period. Mass consciousness changed. The Beatles pioneered many changes in Western culture, just one of which was that before this period the word hallucination meant sickness but during and after the Beatles' psychedelic period, hallucinations were somewhat desired by a great many people. If a chemical radically changed your state of mind, it was now thought to be not only O.K., but desirable. Was this a set up for what Huxley was concerned about... a drug culture that would make servitude seem painless?

If one is a wage slave who toils at low pay for a large corporation year after year as if it is a prison sentence of some sort, wouldn't he be happier to slave away if he had a bit of cannabis to go home to? Many people I knew in the 1960's dropped acid (including myself on a few occasions in those days) and felt that it was so hallucinatory that they would rather stick with marijuana for taking the edge off a hard day's night.
So, '___' was like an initiation ritual for hundreds of thousands if not millions of young people who were listening to Beatle music. Mind expansion is what people called it.

I think there was an agenda afoot to distribute and promote illegal drugs as a means to further enslave the masses. Rumors have floated for years that intelligence agencies have been smuggling and distributing vast quantities of illegal drugs for many years (perhaps one reason the Afghan poppy crops are never completely eradicated). In my lifetime, I've seen like you'd never heard of marijuana before and suddenly it's everywhere, you'd never heard of '___' at all and bingo suddenly it's cheap, widely available and endorsed by the Beatles, no less.

Why was JPM removed, shot with a revolver, then a car accident faked, replaced by a fully well performing double? Could have been part of an Illuminati occult ritual, but the larger picture is that TPTB wanted control of Beatlemania and wanted to transform it into a social engineering tool for promoting drugs as brief escape mechanisms or self-medication for workers enslaved by corporations, possibly the breakdown of the nuclear family, the illusion that anyone can become rich and famous and intellectual without a university degree, and so forth.

JPM had to be taken out in order for control to commence on the inside of the group. They put their man right in there after destroying the symbiosis of Paul and John writing together. It remains a mystery how Tavistock managed to control everything, but I can tell you that the Beatles operated in strict secrecy (sessions off limits to outsiders) in what amounts to a laboratory setting. Yoko and Linda stepped in as controllers, as well.
I still have a hunch that Lennon and Harrison were persuaded by TPTB that the noble mission would be to promote world peace and love, bringing about a global rise in consciousness through music and drugs. This secret mission could have begun before Paul was killed. The hidden agenda has been described in the preceding paragraph.

The concept of utopia was very high in the minds of Francis Bacon (New Atlantis) who helped write 'Shakespeare', Aldous Huxley (also the theme of placating the masses with drugs), Gibran (peace and love), Lennon (Imagine), Harrison (Hare Krishna), so this idea of leading the world towards a utopia is there.

The fellow pretending to be Paul has been heavily mind controlled, as were Lennon and Harrison and I suppose Ringo. It would be interesting to know how that mind control was done, but I think Yoko and Linda, and of course George Martin, were key. Behind the scenes you have Tavistock and perhaps Huxley himself in deep cover after he "died" on the same day as JFK so no one would take any notice of him going underground.

Sorry for such a long post, but this summarizes where I am currently on the whole thing.

Written by himself before he died for his own tombstone (where it is etched), Khalil Gibran... "I am alive like you, and I am standing beside you. Close your eyes and look around, you will see me in front of you."

Hmmm.



posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 01:34 AM
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I'm thinking the Beatles were hi-jacked in mid-66. To me, it seems like Paul was the leader up until then. There is a video w/ a drummer who sat in for Ringo during part of their '64 tour. When the reporter asked him a question, he obviously looked at Paul for guidance as to how to answer. Also, Paul did the majority of the talking in the Memphis interview (possibly his last...) Oh, & Paul pushed for that SRA Butcher album cover. So, if Paul had been the leader, he would have had to have been removed. Brian Epstein, their manager, was also likely removed.


Epstein died of an accidental drug overdose at his home in London in August 1967.

en.wikipedia.org...


Some more on mind control...


Operation Mind Control
Walter H. Bowart
mcrais.googlepages.com...

...All of these techniques, involving drug-induced hypnosis and electroshock convulsions, were eventually developed and used to reduce some of our own citizens to a zombie state in which they would blindly serve the government. Regardless of the Constitution and the laws which supposedly protect the individual against government coercion, “zombies” were covertly created to do the government’s more unsavory bidding. Such “zombies” asked no questions about the legality of their assignments. Often their assignments were never consciously known. And if they were ever questioned about their own actions, amnesia protected them from self-incrimination. ... [pp. 70-73]

... according to Lawrence, ... during the operation a small electrode was implanted inside ... [the person’s] mastoid sinus. The electrode responded to a radio signal which would make audible, inside ... [the person’s] head, certain electronic commands to which he had already been posthypnotically conditioned to respond. ...
In 1975 the RHIC–EDOM story surfaced again. ... The journalist, James L. Moore, said that the papers in his possession described the details of “a military technique of mind-control called Radio-Hypnotic Intra-Cerebral Control–Electronic Dissolution of Memory.” ...
According to Moore, in the initial (RHIC) stage of programming the ... [person] is put into a deep hypnotic trance, and conditioned to go intro trance at the sound of a specific tone. “A person may be placed under this control with or without his knowledge, programmed to perform certain actions and maintain certain attitudes” whenever he hears the tone. ...
The second part of the process, electronic dissolution of memory (EDOM), Moore said, “... By electronically jamming the brain, acetylcholine creates static which blocks out sights and sounds. You would then have no memory of what you saw or heard; your mind would be a blank.” ...



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posted on Oct, 16 2009 @ 10:56 AM
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A little further research has led me to examine the life, career and views of Julian Huxley, brother of Aldous. I read this wiki article (reading the whole thing patiently is worth the effort)... en.wikipedia.org...

I believe that Julian was secretly involved with British Intelligence and Tavistock. I think along with Aldous, Julian was interested in social engineering with world utopia as its goal. I suspect that Julian may have mentored John Lennon.

From Julian Huxley, you get UNESCO (new world order), the World Wildlife Fund (Lennon donated a special release of Across The Universe to the WWF), religious naturalism (Mother Nature's Son), and perhaps most interestingly... transhumanism. From transhumanism you get social engineering and recreational drugs.

I suspect that Julian in WWI was connected through British Intelligence with the founders of Tavistock. Julian's mental breakdowns and ECT (electric shock therapy) could well have been seen after by Tavistock. To subjugate The Beatles, perhaps a combination of '___' and electro-shock therapy was used. By the time Lennon performed on the rooftop of Apple, he could not remember lyrics to his own songs. He used a lyrics cheat sheet so that he wouldn't go blank mid-performance. Could ECT have done that to him?

What is the relevance of all this to the overall Paul Is Dead theory? It is well known that at the very top of British intellectual circles (H.G. Wells, the Huxleys, people like Jane Asher's father, etc) there has been a desire to move the world forward towards utopia (this yearning for worldwide utopia goes back to Francis Bacon's treatise New Atlantis). Social engineering either overt or covert or a blend of both had been a tool since King James I got his name stamped on untold millions of Bibles (the most successful ad and PR campaign of all times) and continued with the charade of 'Shakespeare' (ghost written by Bacon and others). Notice the secrecy and hidden agenda element. When The Beatles captivated the world's youth and media, the British elite intellectuals saw a chance to take over that mania, to transform it and use it for their utopia goal. It has been said that there is a dark side, a cabal (Illuminati) of many of these top intellectuals in which cleverness combines with skullduggery and even Luciferianism (see EYES WIDE SHUT). Theory: Paul's murder was an essential part of the plot to gain control of the Beatles. The plot was carried out by British Intelligence working with Tavistock and approved by the British government and the royal family. Mind control was used (see Kubrick's A CLOCKWORK ORANGE). Lennon and Harrison were either aware of all this, fooled into compliance, manipulated with pure '___' and ECT or a combination of all of that. Lennon and Faul were certainly controlled by Yoko and Linda who were their handlers and mother figures.



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