Everytime I go to Europe....

It isn't. The only material which is blocked by government is via the Internet Watch Foundation (IWF) is Child Porn.

ISP's do not block content themselves regardless of what the other poster claimed.

Agreed about the internet thing, as for the TV licence, i don't mind it. The idea is to deliver a quality service to people of all backgrounds and interests. Although its news content is sometimes not as good as it should be (editorial changes mean they're slow to respond to breaking news) and they have a left leaning bias, it is by far the best global brand for tv and radio services - for good reason.

Lord Reiths values for the organsation are absolutely spot on imho.

You and me both.

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It also allows people to find something which fits in with their own agenda, biased, false or otherwise.

For example, ATS is a perfect example - pretty much anything i might choose to believe will be validated by some of the loonies and malcontents on here. Doesn't mean they're right.

All media has some form of bias, overt or otherwise but Fox is just laughable. Its the worst representation of the worst ideas of Republicans. Its angry, misleading and the tagline "Fair and Balanced" is probably the biggest joke to come out of the US media.

I've not seen it since before the election but they must be beside themselves now you've got a good President rather than the village idiot you had before!

Well said, think that deserves a star!

I have seen Fox news on cable, but only a couple of times, it's usually on after 1 am. The BBC is just a mouth piece for the lefties, the Climate change fanatics, and immigrant sob stories. But the BIG but is, they always want more of the taxpayers money. They get billions in license fees.

Its a good job they represent the majority in the case, isn't it?

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This is interesting to me. I live in Europe (Germany) and the only time I talked to a local about religion was when a couple of Jehovah's Witnesses stopped me on my way to school one morning!

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Here in Germany, we pay something like 250€ a year for a TV. That total goes up a little bit if you have a radio (even one in your car!) or the Internet. I think it's stupid. The government makes a killing from that! I hope America never decides that every person with a TV or radio needs to start paying to fund PBS and NPR.

And, unlike someone said earlier, you don't get what you pay for with these TV taxes. Over the summer, a story was being on by the government news media, here in Germany, that I happened to know a quite a bit about because it hit (really) close to home, as one would say. The news, for what ever reason (I have my suspicions), reported things falsely, even after they'd been told the truth and correct reason for things numerous times!

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Fox News is available on Sky as both Sky and Fox are owned by News Corporation and like all MSM, you have see beyond what they are telling us on the screen and understand the political stance behind the network.

As a Brit, who does get to see Fox and CNN now and then, the major difference between the US television and the UK is the style of presenting, regardless (generally) of political bias - left or right, the main difference is that the US presenters don't seem as proffesional, very excitable and opinionated, whereas most of our news presenters rarely present opinions of what we're viewing so overtly, they just read the "stories" they are given - now whether or not the stories are written without bias is a completely different thing, but more often the not the US guys come across as angry and excitable... I don't know how much that would help in a national emergency?

When surveyed, most people actually watch fox for entertainment reasons, not news.

I'm British, and i find Fox News absolutely flabbergasting, and so now don't watch it.

Also, for what it's worth, i don't mind the license fee as i believe the BBC (news aside) is a fantastic organisation.

Happy to pay a few quid a month for all the fabulous David Attenborough documentaries, Match of The Day, Test Match Special, Radio 5live, Radio 1 (occasionally), Radio 4 and comedies such as Have I Got News For You.

Also, no commercial breaks. Ever! Heaven!

Did you know that Saudi Arabia OWNS part of FOX NEWS?





I'm sure that has no affect on any of what they report..

Really? Can you post a link to said survey?

There isn't one (1) talking head in US media worth a damn. From Hannity to Olbermann, they're all crap.

Ditto for the BBC although I'll give them this much.. They do cover a lot more worlwide news. Although they're just as guilty of pushing their agenda as is Fox, MSNBC, etc....

As an aside.... I just love those fellow Americans who spend two weeks in Europe and are all of a sudden better than everyone else because of it. Get back to us when you actually live there like some of us.



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"Whenever I go to Europe inevitably I always end up getting stuck into political and religious talks with the locals..... The question that is always brought up from everywhere in Europe is. "What is up with Fox News, how do you guys let them get away with it?"

My simple answer is.... Most people do not care enough to do anything.... we will just whine... and hope that it will fix itself."

Just wondering, has anyone introduced them to the idea, they have the option of changing the channel or turning off the TV (I assume they still have this right)?

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Fox News really is a freak show to us Europeans. Idiotic hosts, guests who get interrupted and bullied etc. And its supposed to be a real news channel!

O'Reilly would be fun to have a discussion with. He is really one of those guys you meet that you know have no clue about whats going on behind the official scenes. He sees nothing wrong with the world. Its hilarious.



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Now whilst this isn't a news programme, it's a critical review of the days programme hosted by Jeremy Paxman, I feel it's quite amusing... and would like to see more politicians subjected to this kind of treatment.

Gets interesting from about 3:00

YouTube Link

On a lighter note, here is said interviewers treatment of the weather, he was famously rather derisive of having the weather on a news review programme.

YouTube Link

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This is truly amazing. I get reports here in America that the British citizen's rights, customs, and heritage, has been trumped by the will of all the Moslem immigrants who have overran, "Great" Britain. And you can be critical of American News stations?

Wow.....just, wow!

How much longer will Muslim shara law even permit you the freedom to watch anything?

i only watch fox when jon stewart mocks it.
I couldnt bare watching that drivvle seriously.
If i want fiction, ill go to the library and borrow a good book.