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posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 04:03 PM
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true story:



The Wisdom of Crowds? (If not then buy it now. Do not pass go, do not collect $200). He opens with the story of a contest at a county fair. The goal is to guess the weight of an ox after it had been slaughtered and dressed. The crowd all entered their guesses. After the contest was over Francis Galton took the entries and calculated the average and the standard deviation. Galton was a eugenicist who expected that the average guess would be very poor. After all, you couldn't expect a bunch of commoners to do as well as learned, educated men. But it turned out that the average guess of the crowd was 1723 and the weight of the ox was 1722 (or so, I can't recall the exact figure). The reason is simple: as long as errors are random then they will generally cancel out. As you get more and more people in the crowd the average guess will get closer and closer to the real value.




...there's no real evidence that one can become expert in something as broad as "decision making" or "policy" or "strategy." Auto repair, piloting, skiing, perhaps even management: these are skills that yield to application, hard work, and native talent. But forecasting an uncertain future and deciding the best course of action in the face of that future are much less likely to do so. And much of what we've seen so far suggests that a large group of diverse individuals will come up with better and more robust forecasts and make more intelligent decisions than even the most skilled "decision maker."


James Surowiecki
Source: The Wisdom of Crowds, Page: 32



following this brand of logic which produces measurable results:

the logic dictates that the more diverse the group i choose not to ignore or shun ...

the logic, the truth, the facts, the raw intentions of integrity dictates that the more diverse the group i choose not to ignore or shun ....

the logic/truth is that the more (larger group) i choose to listen and accept
the logic/truth is that the more (larger group) i choose to learn from
the logic/truth is that the more (larger group) i choose to hear
the logic/truth is that the more (diverse group) i do not dissregard
the logic/truth is that the greater the diversity i choose not to ignore

the more accurate my truth becomes, the more accurate my integrity is
the facts, what's observed and incororated, are more accurate when i am willing to accept the average of what they are all giving to us ....

fact: our kind did this: ancient name for oldest structure =
mr
fact: our kind did this: present name for space station =
mir
fact: our kind did this: first 3 letters adjacent to the sun =
mer

i'm listening to our kind, and the average of the diversity

from our oldest structures still standing
to our greatest achievement, man living in orbit
to what it is we put next to the biggest brightest thing in our heavens

i'm listening to, learning from, hearing, not shunning, not dissregarding, not ignoring anyone, for the greater the diversity, the more accurate the soul of integrity becomes.

i'm listening to my kind, although "my" denotes possession, so other's are not "mine", and i have no intentions of owning anyone.

people are not an extension of my will, but when i become the extension of their will, their collective will, the easier the pieces are to the puzzle for me, because the chosen intentionality to not ignore our diversity's voice, and what that voice is saying.

earlier somewhere someone said something to the effect:
"i don't think things are hidden from us"
then believe it. then know it. then live it.

if you have a question ...
if you are able to comprise a question
if you are searching for an answer
if you can get "frustrated"
apparently you've already came to the conclusion that something is hidden, or why would you have to look for it?

underneath the tip of your nose is your mouth (words)
there at the tip of your figertips is your keyboard (words)




posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 04:12 PM
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if you have a question ...
if you are able to comprise a question
if you are searching for an answer
if you can get "frustrated"
apparently you've already came to the conclusion that something is hidden, or why would you have to look for it?

underneath the tip of your nose is your mouth (words)
there at the tip of your figertips is your keyboard (words



No no no NO.... what you are doing is throwing weird phrases and sentences together to come off as a false prophet, or I should say prophet... but to the sane it's a false prophet.


This is what breeds false prophets and of course spammars... We ignore people like you because of your fruits written in your words... there isn't much sanity in your post...



it's like saying..


5+5 = dive.... because it rhymes so I should go dive off a building everytime I hear the 5 dollar foot long commercial...


1+8-tree doghair =87 + toilet paper....


and I could go into a tirade into how I got to that eqausion...


Now soul Int. Go to youtube and do what i said. somewhere behind that comp. your mind is sane enough to work a comp...

peace


[edit on 22-9-2009 by JesusisTruth]



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 04:14 PM
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watch...

Soul integrity...

You like animals? Whats your favorite food?


HWRWEBHIIC


that is a riddle which he will fullfill and I'll explain it later.

peace.



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 04:16 PM
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The twins are children,whatever they are doing, they are part of Gods plan,
they are not the antichrist, children, remember, children,
Children can be monsters, but they are still from god. always, no exception.
They grow, and if you grow you are from god.

Whatever role they have, how bad or good, they are not the antichrist,
and the timing is now, not in many years. So whatever function they have,
they will be guilt-free. Ignorance of the people around them is something i would worry about.
When God shines as the sun, he will not forget about them.

then the prophesies:
May he (Pope Pius IX) be on his guard against Napoleon; he is two-faced, and when he wishes to make himself Pope as well as Emperor, soon God will draw back from him."

What is 2-faced ? remember what i told you about 2 sides of a coin ?
Two faced is the same symbol as the one eye - antichrist in islam.
it means ignorance, a hypocrite has 2 faces, does not look with 2 eyes,
does not see two sides, but IS 2 sides, is divided

"Rome will become the seat of the antichrist."

Two faced means religion, who can't choose between a
god that is one, and one that judges.
Religion can not choose between Baal and God.
Rome and religion will become afraid and choose against a god that is one.

Laodiceans were told (revelation) :
You’re neither hot, nor cold, and I wish you were one or the other, but because you are lukewarm, I will spew you out of my mouth.”

Why a prophet will look like an angel ?
because nobody will listen otherwise.
it is time for a shock, because people avoid
the truth to much, they want the truth,
but they do not want to confirm their hearts,
the shock will oblige them.

The sun will start to shine, Malachi fulfilled,
Enoch and Elijah, one was taken the other went up visible
ELijah's time has come.
the moon will see the sun and come home.
the son and the father, two witnesses.
God is one, the sons are many.
Son of Man is Messiah,
and every prophet annointed.

paracletos.
The bible promised a manifestation of god,
an angel to shine, those words are gone from
the present bibles. The world will partly fight against
the manifestations of god. God does not judge you,
you are the part of God that judges (chooses),
God (ONE) or Baal (divided)



[edit on 22-9-2009 by pasttheclouds]

[edit on 22-9-2009 by pasttheclouds]



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by badmedia

You gave me a false riddle and said that math was an invention of satan/evil


why are you misreprenting information? are you trying to trick me?
i challenge you to show me and everyone here where i said:
"math was an invention of satan/evil"
if you are lying to me
if you are lying to others here
odds are you are lying to yourself as well


Originally posted by badmedia
How it misrepresents information as a means to trick people?


and then you have the blatant audacity to misquote / misrepresent the information to manipulate it to meet your intentionality, to decieve, .. obviously because it is what you have demonstrated through your actions and behaviors by lying:


Originally posted by badmedia

You gave me a false riddle and said that math was an invention of satan/evil


who has a problem with integrity here?



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 04:45 PM
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pastclouds.. The boys fit perfectly with lasalette and are the only ones to fit that prophecy so I don't agree with you...

These boys could step on landmines and not get hurt and change into old people....

watch for 2016 or 17 and if they are on the sceen realize they are the ones in that prophecy.


Now as for islam being antichrist.


No.... The antichrist is a singular man according to scripture. A leader of a one world order. a singular "he" not just according to scripture but to the prophets and saints.


and he will be jewish from what I understand..or part jewish.


and mimkc Christ life... So it's not Islam.. Islam wil be used by the antichrist I suppose, but it's a singular guy.

and every kind of christianity is a religion..

Catholicsm, protestantism... ect..
protestants are a part of the christian religion as well.

peace.



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 04:57 PM
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Islam is from god,
God is one,
the other is Baal

Islam teaches God is One.

Do you really think God thinks in geographical zones ?
I can understand you believe that, but what does your heart say ?
You listen to it ?

Islam was a call back to understanding god.
IT confirms gospel and torah.
Just as torah was misunderstood,
the gospel was misunderstood,
islam was misunderstood.
Religion as dogmatic is the antichrists seat,
and the antichrist is divided, the beast,
has more powers then only one individual power,
please read your bibles instead of repeating
misunderstandings without checking them fully.

Does anyone hear me ?
Does your consiousness work ? your hearts ?

The twins will be in paradise before they become fully adults.
The time is now, not in some years.

The antichrist will not be jewish,
singular is what an individual is, divided !
God as ONE, elohim, many persons.
elijah will be from israel, yes, not the nation, which is partly just a nation,
Israel that is mixed between the nations, as example,
the ones who took the biggest crosses in this life,
the rest follows in paradise.
Elijah, means my god is god, god is here
He's closer to you then you think.
Dogmatic thinking will make religion think he is the false prophet.



[edit on 22-9-2009 by pasttheclouds]



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 05:10 PM
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1.
does anyone understand the word DELUSION,
2.
why comes elijah ? because you allready understood ?
3.
what is a false prophet ? he that doesnt talk for a God that is ONE (the LAW)
4.
who talks against his own ? accuses ? the devil, dogmatic religion.
5.
what will delusion allow ? the cross for everyone, god is one, he shares his cross
6.
2 spies came back to take the rest into the promised land,
Jesus is allready one with god, religion is afraid of those
that talk love, act from love, they will condemn the FRUITS.
Prepare the offers. Afterwards IGnorance (the beast) will
start to take revenge on the whore, but will take their cross too late.
7.
ECLIPSES were promised, and more then literal
the sun and moon will become.



[edit on 22-9-2009 by pasttheclouds]



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by badmedia
reply to post by soul of integrity
 


Fine, lets play with words and letters.

I can mix your name around "soul of integrity", and get this:

felonious gritty

And a few others:

erosion ugly tift
felony titus igor
figure snotty oil
finite ugly roost
first tongue oily

Is this all to suggest you are a felon, trying to erode things to be ugly? Or maybe just some corporate oil guy, trying to roost(put to sleep) the people with your oily/slippery toungue?


i know this game, i invented it.

soul of integriy
toying to lusifer

playing with lucifer ....
not to worry though, according to your logic a "s" cannot be replaced with a "c"

here is a truism for you badmedia,
when you peer into the word, you only can see what it is you are capable of looking for ....

and if you ignore, then you are just not looking



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 05:26 PM
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Fine, here I'll link to your post.

link

I answered your riddle, I showed you the error in it. It's nothing more than a trick to make people believe there is a missing dollar in it, and that math "lied" to you, but it wasn't.



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 05:32 PM
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Ok pasththeclouds. I didn't understand a word of that. Please be more specific. it's all very simple and you are adding what seems to be irrellevant riddles.


The bible says this.

" The man of sin "

the antichrist is a man which will make all take a mark on their skin..


Now se this is what interpretation of scripture does to people. You will most likely interpret and find loop holes on that qoute, but he is a man and one man...


that's why god would of had to set up a body to interpret scripture.


Now....

like I said. I could be wrong, but no other 12 yearold boys were winning wars and all over our news in 1999...

" at the age of 12 they will gain notice "

notice it says they..


watch the video and notice how they are called Gods army, can step on landmines, the nun qoutes that they were of unearthly nature..


just wait until 2016. if I am wrong I am.... which i very well could be but Im going off of a prophecy that many believe in, the second biggest prophecy in our church..

Lasalette...


and so wait and watch....

and as for them being in heaven.. No. they are alive today. Go read Burmese news..cats and find out that fact..


if it's them they are in hiding preparing for their arrival on the world sceen. if not, then my interpretaion of the prophecy was wrong.


peace.



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by JesusisTruth
No no no NO.... what you are doing is throwing weird phrases and sentences together to come off as a false prophet, or I should say prophet... but to the sane it's a false prophet.


to the sane? seems to imply i'm not sane? you can't possibly be suggesting such a thing, are you?

if you are judging me as insane, then you are telling me that i am in my own mind, which is what insane means ...
in order to observe/witness that i am in my own mind, then you must be in my mind to make such an observation, since insane means to reside within one's own mind.
so in order to observe me in my mind, you must be out of your mind, either that or in two places at once ...

summary: if you judge me as insane(within my own mind) such accurate judgement requires you to observe that i am in my own mind.
and if you are in my mind, you are out of your mind.



We ignore people like you because


and does your jesus ignore people like me, too?



there isn't much sanity in your post...


your judgement is flawed where you fail to use facts/truth.

even as i stand in your jesus's sandals and look at myself in the mirror:

jesus [mirror] susej (pronounced same as) sue seige

which is consistant with what your jesus's truth was ....
he knew earth was under attack, he was sent to sue what laid seige upon us.


no, i am still reproducing consistent results, using the same steps, over and over and over and over again ....

you imply i'm crazy?
maybe i'm a wise arc of the covenant ..

example # 37:
- wise = yz
- ark = arc
- yzarc [mirror] crazy

i guess i could see how you are already brainwashed to think the way you do. can't say i blame you, or find fault in it.



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 05:38 PM
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I'm not looking, I already found. And because of that, I know you are doing nothing but spinning a bunch of smoke and mirrors to try and act is if you have somekind of cryptic knowledge. But you don't.

If you had anything of real value to say, then you wouldn't need such smoke and mirrors, such plays on words. You would be direct and to the point of what you mean. As there is virtually no substance to the things you are saying, I guess we will get to see "example #who gives a crap".

What one says should stand on the merits of the point being made, and there is absolutely 0 value in things like how you can manipulate words. Because they can be manipulated into whatever someone desires.

I don't normally put people on ignore. I have only ever done it 1 single time before. But I have little time or patience to try and communicate with someone who attacks the words in such a way, with more words of the same language even based on phonetic sounds - which is kind of common since all the words come from the same alphabet and pronunciations.

If you can't start posting in a reasonable manner, where points are made based on understanding and meaning rather than playing around with words, then I will just ignore your posts.



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by soul of integrity
to the sane? seems to imply i'm not sane? you can't possibly be suggesting such a thing, are you?

if you are judging me as insane, then you are telling me that i am in my own mind, which is what insane means ...
in order to observe/witness that i am in my own mind, then you must be in my mind to make such an observation, since insane means to reside within one's own mind.
so in order to observe me in my mind, you must be out of your mind, either that or in two places at once ...

summary: if you judge me as insane(within my own mind) such accurate judgement requires you to observe that i am in my own mind.
and if you are in my mind, you are out of your mind.


Oh, another riddle.

Of course, I can walk around a man's house and know that he is not in the yard, which means he is probably in his house(mind as you call it).

So don't actually need to be in 2 places at once to know such a thing.



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by pasttheclouds
1.
does anyone understand the word DELUSION,


here's a thought: a fair and just god put the deluge(flood) of all knowledge and wisdom in all souls throughout all creation ...
god's flood was when god put the deluge in all
the result was everyone was then delusional



ECLIPSES were promised, and more then literal
the sun and moon will become.


people's fears dominate their own boundries of experiences ...
fear says: "eek" scared of their own lips, and what it says "eek lips says"
eek = ec
lips = lips
says = ses
"eek lips says eclipses"



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by badmedia

If you can't start posting in a reasonable manner, where points are made based on understanding and meaning rather than playing around with words, then I will just ignore your posts.


syllables can be silly bulls, olay!

whatever is most comfortable for you, what ever is easier for you.

i take a word, any word, doesn't matter
i spell it out phonetically
i reverse/mirror image it

same 3 steps, every time resulting in a truism concering the source word.

consistant steps, consistant results.
where truth cannot be debunked, and the truth is not compliant with what you believe the truth should be, ignorance (to ignore) is your choice.

[edit on 22-9-2009 by soul of integrity]



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by badmedia

Oh, another riddle.

Of course, I can walk around a man's house and know that he is not in the yard, which means he is probably in his house(mind as you call it).

So don't actually need to be in 2 places at once to know such a thing.


my house has doors on all sides,

and years of experience as an on scene commander at structural fires has proven to me, no matter where i am around the structure that is on fire, i can only see no more than 2 sides of the structure.

i could be outside my house without you knowing it, now you'd have to be in 3 places at once ...

inside the house, to see if i'm in there
in the yard at one corner of the house to observe each door on 2 sides
in the yard at the other corner of the house to observe the other 2 doors on the other 2 sides of the house. ...

of course, maybe my logic doesn't make sense to you here either, but maybe you've already decided to ignore the contributions i supply to the conversation.



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 06:24 PM
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i can't do it for you,
it's to difficult for me.
I am still human.
I can't convince you.
God made it to difficult.
It will be a delusion so big,
and i tried to warn people
as long i am still here.
But humans fail.

To understand those prophesies you need to understand the symbols
to understand the symbols correctly you have to understand God.
to be safe you have to understand God as One,
or the only other option, recognise the fruits.
But christians ignore the fruits and react on their fears.
That's why they will attack gods prophet and the sons.
They find their proof even in a picture of obama smiling,
they would condemn him for his what they assume demon laugh, when they do not
understand demons. they never read the beast descriptions good.

The prophesies are pointing to a prophet and a individual demon if you read them wrong and literal,
if you understand them spiritual, it is the opposite. revelation,etc etc
God made it like this. I am done with my fight.
I wrote everything many times. I give up now.
Nobody will listen until someone comes to shine,
and takes his extra cross to be crucified by the world,
to shake them awake AFTER they did it.
People like to judge on visions, and not on fruits.
They will even condemn our children, because they think
to safeguard themselves.

I give myself up, because i just can not do it
anymore. He doesnt allow me to write good english,
when i wish to explain it good.

Truth is so simple, that is needs so much complexity in search
before you find it. Never trust your views, trust your oneness,
never judge when you do not want to release it.

God is one. IF someone brings that message, do not judge him.
even when he brings miracles, and says he is one with god,
which he will be, if his fruits are showing hope, which is allowance
of the other ones crosses, accept it, do not judge him and the sons

I can't explain all the prophesies in detial, you first have to understand god,
if you can't see god, you can't see his truth.
You trust symbols. God is not a symbol. That's why he gives the delusion,
so people can understand that after their regrets.

It looks melodramatic but it is not,
people like to be peacefull rational, until everything around them falls,
if stress comes, people will react so automaticly,
that without preparation you will not be able to
recognise.

love is not false peace, it is accepting anger to make forgiveness possible.
love is not avoiding dirty words, it is allowing dirty words before there are dirty deeds.
Many people have a wrong impression about love, they think it is taste.


I can't win. I accept it. I am tired of talking with a bad language,
and not being able to help. God it's your time.


[edit on 22-9-2009 by pasttheclouds]



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 07:41 PM
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This really doesn't make a difference to what you are putting forth, but MR means secret.

PR is what you mean. As in Pyramid....HOUSE...



posted on Sep, 22 2009 @ 07:53 PM
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symbol
c.1434, "creed, summary, religious belief," from L.L. symbolum "creed, token, mark," from Gk. symbolon "token, watchword" (applied c.250 by Cyprian of Carthage to the Apostles' Creed, on the notion of the "mark" that distinguishes Christians from pagans), lit. "that which is thrown or cast together," from syn- "together" + bole "a throwing, a casting, the stroke of a missile, bolt, beam," from bol-, nom. stem of ballein "to throw" (see ballistics). The sense evolution in Gk. is from "throwing things together" to "contrasting" to "comparing" to "token used in comparisons to determine if something is genuine." Hence, "outward sign" of something. The meaning "something which stands for something else" first recorded 1590 (in "Faerie Queene"). Symbolic is attested from 1680.

Truth is not a belief, it is, so that you don't need to "believe" it. Belief takes faith and faith is personal. Truth is not personal. Truth is.

It is faith in the truth, not truth in the faith that heals, sets free, and lifts all symbols off of things so that they can be seen clearly.

The focal point of a cross is intersection.

Enter Sex Zion....1+1=1

Tomorrow's "HUMP" day....ah hehehehe He said, "hump"

"Let me tell you bout the birds and the bees and the flowers and the trees a little thing called love"



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