Hi Sancho, and thanks for this thread. I will give it a S & F and share a few of my past experiences from the two states I have lived in; Colorado
I originate from the burbs between Denver and Boulder. I won't lie, I didn't go to a bad school district (it was still a state-run brainwashing
indoctrination camp, but by no means "bad") or grow up in a bad neighborhood, and quite frankly witnessed (first hand) very little crime (especially
violent crime). This is not to say none, but I got in very few fights, and was only seriously violently assaulted once (by a giant chain/paddelock).
In my youth I had a long list of issues with my parents, which was essentially bad parenting, and a free-thinking adolescent coming into manhood.
Ultimately our problems combined with their bad parenting, led to them calling the police on me a number of times, as well as having me "committed"
to a Psych hospital on a couple of occasions. I had repeatedly asked for them to give up power to the state, so that I could go live with a foster
home, for many years....but they never would and continued to push more of their psychosis onto me.
During these early teenage years, on one occasion when my father called the police over and invited them in to assist him in his parenting....there
was a misunderstanding regarding me holding a baseball bat for defensive purposes, and I was arrested and charged as a juvenile (was between 13 and 15
at the time) for "felony menacing with a weapon" or something.
This went on the "books" as an "adjudicated felony". I did my probation thing as a youth and was under the impression that all was good
afterwards and it's like nothing ever even happened.
I have had no felonies since turning 18 and becoming an adult, so I do not ever admit to having any felonies on Job apps and such.
My family was I guess what you could call your standard run-of-the-mill democrat/liberals who did not believe in guns, and personally didn't own
them. Not too surprisingly for CO, a lot of my childhood friends households were like this as well. I was given little to no exposure to firearms
as a youth, which is sad.
After moving away from the folks and living on my own for a few years, I became very interested in owning one and becoming efficient with it for
personal protection purposes. So when I turned 21, I went to my local pawn/gun store and purchased a semi-auto 9mm handgun. This was in 2004. I
can tell you for sure that there were A LOT LESS questions on any of the ATF paperwork back then, and am not sure if they asked about previous psych
hospitalization, but I'm sure I would have lied if they did.
Sure enough they ran me through NICS, didn't find that I had committed any felonies as and adult and approved me to purchase the handgun.
Over the last few years I have put thousands of rounds down range with my handgun, and gained valuable tactical skills while competing in timed
competition at the local gun club.
I never bothered with trying to get a CCW because at the time, for me it was unnecessary and just giving more money to the state which I really
But in the last 2 years I deemed it necessary that I have a rifle (.223 or comparable caliber), so I found one I could afford and attempted to
purchase from a local Gun Store back in CO. This time round the paperwork seemed different. They asked questions like "Are you addicted to
marijuana" (however no questions regarding alcohol abuse), "Have you been adjudicated of any felonies", "Have you ever been committed to a Psych
hospital". This time round I was forced to lie, but low and behold the NICS check came back as DENIED. Keep in mind, I have not had any criminal
offenses since turning 18 and I was approved on my NICS check in 2005 when I bought the 9mm.
Since CO had approved me for firearm purchase in 2005 but now changed the rules, I took this to mean that they had revoked my 2nd amendment rights.
All evidence points to Colorado enacting stricter gun laws and now denying anybody with a previously "adjudicated felony" even if it was on their
For me, this was the straw which broke the camels back, so I decided I would move. I had family in AZ, so that is the direction I headed.
Arizona if big Pro-Gun and Open-Carry so I fit in a little better on that note. I attempted to purchase this rifle when I moved here, and the first
time they ran my name through NICS, they came back and said I was on a 7-day delay, and if they didn't receive a call back from the feds in the next
7-days regarding denial, then they could sell it to me. The FFL said that AZ does this when they really want to deny somebody, but don't exactly
have the legal standing to do so.
Since I was trying to purchase this at a Gun Show from an FFL, and he wasn't able to make the sale on the spot it didn't work out that time.
In the last few months I finally found someone with this rifle online, had them ship it to an FFL here in AZ, paid the Transfer fee, waited another
7-Day delay period, and since AZ hasn't officially denied me.....FINALLY have a rifle of my own!
I would personally open carry, since I don't have a CCW; but after having my 2nd rights revoked in CO due to new legislation, I'm extra cautious and
worry about police attempting to enforce some draconian gun grab, and confiscating it.
I find it funny how they single out Marijuana by name on the new ATF forms with that question "Are you addicted to marijuana?" They never used
In CO a couple months before I moved, I was caught with a little bit of pot, which in CO is no big deal. They normally take your stuff, and send you
to court with a petty misdemeanor charge. It was like $120 bucks out the door, no worse than a loitering ticket. Goes on your record as 'petty
misdemeanor'. In AZ that stuff is treated much worse. MJ laws in AZ are some of the strictest in the country. If caught with even the tiniest
amount here in AZ your are immediately a Felon, and can no longer legally own firearms.
I think I began to ramble on a little ways back, so I will stop here.