What does drinking out of a skull signify?, page 9

reply to post by fraterormus

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And here^^^ we have the most relevant post in this thread.

The (Free)Mason and Druid Godfrey Higgins drew parallels in his writings between the rites of the Gnostics, (Free)Masons, Druids, Tantric Buddhists, and Roman Catholics. He wrote about how Jesuit missionaries who visited Tibet in the 18th century were astonished at how similar the Tibetan rites are to those of the Roman Catholic church. This would of course be because pretty much all religions on this planet are branches of an ancient "Gnosis"(Greek), or Wisdom(Sophia) Tradition, so to speak. Godfrey Higgins also pointed out that even the term "Sufi" is based on "Sophia"(Phoenician). The Khemetian Goddess of whom the Phoenician "Sophia" is based on would be "Sofik"(Khemetic). Sophia, Sofik, Sufi, you get the idea.

I've attended a number of Nyingma pujas and have witnessed for myself that they drink some sort of liquor out of a human skull. The skull that I saw them use was probably plastic, but it is certain that Tantric Buddhists have and most likely still do use real human skulls in their pujas.

Manly P. Hall 33° pointed out that the Buddhist equivalent of Sophia is the Goddess Prajnaparamita(Sanskrit).

THE MAHASIDDHA TRADITION IN TIBET by Vajranatha

The Higher Tantras could not be a congregational practice of monks because Tantric sadhana, as well as celebrations of the High Tantric feast or Ganachakrapuja, required partaking of meat, wine, and sexual intercourse. At the very least the latter two would force a monk to break his vows. And so what came about in the eleventh century was a change in the external style of practice; the Anuttara Tantras, many of them freshly brought from India and newly translated into Tibetan, came to be practiced in the style of the lower Yoga Tantras. Although there is a great deal of ritual in the Yoga Tantras, there is nothing there that would require a monk to violate his monastic vows. The presence of a woman or Dakini is require at High Tantric initiation and also at the Tantric feast of the Ganachakrapuja, but in the eleventh century reform the actual Dakini physically present was replaced by a mind-consort (yid kyi rig-ma), a visualization of the Dakini. One did the sexual practice only in visualization, not in actuality. In this way the practices of the Higher Tantras could be taken into the monasteries and incorporated into the congregations practice and liturgy of the monks known as puja. Unlike the Zen Buddhists of Japan, Tibetan monks customarily do not practice group meditation. That is something done in the privacy of one's room or in a retreat situation. The typical congregational practice of Tibetan monks is puja which may involve the chanting of liturgies and the making of offerings for many hours.

Partaking of a little wine or meat during Ganapuja is allright because in the course of the ritual they have been mystically transmuted into nectars, and the holy red and white substances in the skull cup have been replaced by symbolic substitutes.

But if one were to read the text of the liturgy, they are filled with the activities of wrathful deities which are both sexual and sanguine. But otherwise, everything is perfect monastic decorum. This was so successful a solution to the dilemma that all four schools of Tibetan Buddhism almost exclusively practice the Anuttara Tantras, to the neglect of the Yoga Tantras. Nonetheless, the Yoga Tantra transmissions have been preserved, especially in the Sakyapa school which is quite fastidious about preserving all of the authentic Indian Tantric transmissions. Among the Nyingmapas, who preserve the traditions coming from the early period of the spread of Buddhism in Tibet (7-9 cen. CE), practitioners of the Higher Tantras who do not take monastic ordination and become monks are known as Tantrikas or Ngagpas (sngags-pa), meaning "those who use mantras (sngags)". They are typically married Lamas. A Lama, though functioning as a priest and teacher, is not necessarily a monk.

[edit on 16-10-2009 by Tamahu]

reply to post by Masonic Light

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Great reply, good way of shutting them up..hopefully
I'm not a mason but i've been reading into them trying to sift through the lies and disinfo. I'll probably wait till i'm a little bit older to decide.

I see nothing wrong with using a Skull as a "cup" as Masonic Light said it shows equality in death. So many generals,leaders and armies have done that in the past.

reply to post by kingswillquiver

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Human skulls are in use in rituals from ancient times, they were used by tricksters acting as shamans for creating an atmosphere of mystery which helped them in making people believe that they have some spiritual powers, and hence people started treating them like gods. And they attained higher social status in their tribes.

Freemasonry and other occult organizations are ran by the families of same tricksters (whom people call today elites/Illuminati etc.), drinking from human skulls or using human skulls in rituals is only for deceiving people. In freemasonry they are being used for indoctrination of its members, by false belief systems such as they would become a better man (superior than other humans) or would become enlightened after drinking from a human skull. By using human skulls in such a way they are just abusing the human corpse.

Freemasons are puppets of those elites, none of them can ever become enlightened after going through any rituals of freemasonry.

reply to post by illuminazislayer

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Are you religious at all? Do you not have rituals in your life? Do you not prize you privacy?

Skulls are symbols of mortality and many different cultures, groups, and organizations have used skulls.

Nor does joining the Freemasons make you god-like or above non-members. That absurd. Nor does any part of our rituals involve desecration or abuse of human remains.

From what I've seen of your posts you cannot speak about enlightenment nor Freemasonry. How is it you think you know more than the members?

reply to post by Tamahu

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To correct what I had written in the above post, the said Kapala (skull cup) would most likely have been made out of silver-gilt bronze rather.

reply to post by KSigMason

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If I had to guess, he seems like a troll. "illuminazislayer"? Slayer of illuminati and nazis? Seems like a joke to me.


I did happen to read Dan Brown's book when it first came out. I don't remember too much of it now even though it has been like 2 years since the books been out .

To me, drinking out of a skull signifies acknowledging your inevitable fate as a human being. The same fate shared by all living. Embracing fate. What better way to embrace it than to drink from a skull?

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