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Originally posted by jdub297
reply to post by buddhasystem
Well, those who say "concessions", get this:
On Friday, the Interfax news quoted an unnamed Russian military-diplomatic source as saying that the Russians had backed off a threat to deploy short-range missiles to a site near Poland if the U.S. moved ahead with the Bush missile defense plan.
First, the "Interfax" agency is about as valuable a source as some of the British tabloids. (I have YET to read any reports of value, and I check them almost daily.)
Second,rumors of Russia backing off of a military 'threat to deploy', is hardly a concession.
Reporting from Moscow - Russia will drop its controversial threat to deploy missiles near Poland in a reaction to shifts in U.S. missile shield plans, a Defense Ministry spokesman said today.
After President Obama decided this week to scrap its planned missile facilities in Poland and the Czech Republic, Moscow was widely expected to follow suit and abandon its threat to deploy Iskander missile systems in the far western Russian enclave of Kaliningrad.
Russia says it has scrapped plans to deploy missiles in a region near Poland after U.S. President Barack Obama canceled plans for a missile defense system in Central Europe.
In a radio interview Saturday, Russian Deputy Defense Minister Vladimir Popovkin said Mr. Obama's move has made the deployment of Iskander short-range missiles in the Kaliningrad region unnecessary.
Look for more countries to start "demanding" more from the USA in the form of technology, manufacturing etc. It is not going to stop anytime soon.
Originally posted by jdub297
reply to post by xoxo stacie
Look for more countries to start "demanding" more from the USA in the form of technology, manufacturing etc. It is not going to stop anytime soon.
It looks like it's just getting started.
With G-20 leaders coming to PA, and with Obama going to the UN, the month will end with foreign policy in the news.
Expect the EU and BRIC to bring demands on climate change, bank regulation, international trade and protectionsim (including a new reserve currnecy), and defense.
Eurasian, Asian and Middle Eastern countries will want to talk about military intervention, development aid and defense.
Africa and South America want to know about agriculture and economic growth.
It'll be interesting to see what role the State Dept. (i.e., Hillary Clinton) will take as opposed to the Office of the Executive (Obama, himself, and his various "czars").
jw
ill be willing to bet that obama bends over on damn near all of those. hell, i hate to say it, but even hillary would have been a better choice than obama, at least she has some balls.
Originally posted by jibeho
Putin, the brazen outdoorsman and ex KGB, is loving this. "Sure Mr. Putin whatever you want Mr. Putin" says a naive city boy with no foreign policy, military, outdoor or management experience.
Obama is just looking weaker by the day. Wow! what a job. How he sleeps at night, I have no idea. Our nation has become nothing but a pawn in this new game of control.
ZURICH (Reuters) - Russia's top general said on Monday that plans to deploy missiles in an enclave next to Poland had not been shelved, despite a decision by the United States to rethink plans for missile defense in Europe.
www.reuters.com...
Originally posted by jdub297
reply to post by The-Hammer
Some point to the withdrawal of "the threat to depoy the Iskander" in Kaliningrad as a "concession.
The SS-26 is a mobile system. By not driving the trucks to Kaliningrad, they have delayed "deployment" by a matter of hours, at best.
They could've done it at anytime. They made the same 'threat' with the Iskander's predecessor, the SS-23.
The Russian navy retains the Baltic capabilities it has had since 1989.
Originally posted by The-Hammer
Originally posted by jdub297
reply to post by buddhasystem
Well, those who say "concessions", get this:
On Friday, the Interfax news quoted an unnamed Russian military-diplomatic source as saying that the Russians had backed off a threat to deploy short-range missiles to a site near Poland
First, the "Interfax" agency is about as valuable a source as some of the British tabloids. (I have YET to read any reports of value, and I check them almost daily.)
Second,rumors of Russia backing off of a military 'threat to deploy', is hardly a concession.
Russia abandons plans to deploy missiles near Poland
Reporting from Moscow - Russia will drop its threat to deploy missiles near Poland in a reaction to shifts in U.S. missile shield plans, a Defense Ministry spokesman said today.
Moscow was widely expected to follow suit and abandon its threat to deploy Iskander missile systems in the far western Russian enclave of Kaliningrad.
Russia Scraps Missile Deployment after Obama Cancels Missile Shield
Russia says it has scrapped plans to deploy missiles in a region near Poland after U.S. President Barack Obama canceled plans for a missile defense system in Central Europe.
Russia's top general said on Monday that plans to deploy missiles in an enclave next to Poland had not been shelved, despite a decision by the United States to rethink plans for missile defense in Europe.
Originally posted by mikerussellus
Just a thought. . . .
Will this change the theme, or the approach to the G20 summit in Philli?
Will he just sit back and sell out the rest of the country? I mean, he had no problem with eastern europe.
During the G20 summit in Philli (as you spell it), other countries will use Obama's weakness as a chance to bully our country.
I knew he should not have gone on his "European Apology Tour".
Its called "Making Friends".. something the US forgot about completely for the past two decades.
Barack Obama with these moves has made the world a safer place and probably won support from Russia to place these sanctions on Iran.
Russia publicly pushed back Tuesday against U.S. efforts to threaten tough new sanctions if Iran fails to prove its nuclear program is peaceful, dealing an apparent setback to President Barack Obama's hopes for Moscow's backing for fresh penalties against Tehran.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said Moscow believed such threats were ''counterproductive'' and that only negotiations should be pursued now.
After all this, the US, NATO and Russia will join into a new strategic partnership and become allies ... .
What will happen is that -- During the G20 summit in Philli (as you spell it), other countries will use Obama's weakness as a chance to bully our country.
Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by jdub297
You know with Clinton being sidelined you have to wonder if she will resign in protest over Obamas retardation? I keep hearing she is going to make a 2012 run.
Giving these concessions to Russia while forging an alliance between the US, EU and Russia is one of the best pieces of Geopolitical chess play I have seen since the start of the Cold war. And this is completely unexpected. I was watching the Russian news all day and they are flabbergasted about what is happening. They are singing Obama's praises while asking what the US are going to want in return.
Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin warned major powers on Wednesday against intimidating Iran and said talk of sanctions against the Islamic Republic over its nuclear programme was "premature".
Originally posted by Dermo
reply to post by jdub297
Its called "Making Friends".. something the US forgot about completely for the past two decades.