War Watch; USA,UK,France,Israel-vs-Russia,China, Iran... aka WW 3, page 3
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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 11:20 AM by oaenaos
reply to post by Pathos



It's easy to own a gun but hard to fire one at somebody
of cource these minios that served at high ranks as presidents or PM
were placed there for wars and only wars and not for peace
look at Ghandi to seek peace leaders


reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 11:32 AM by Pathos
reply to post by serph


Maybe I wasn't clear in my original post. Even though the United States cannot afford another war (financially and diplomatically), that does not mean that another country will not attack.

Since I do not subscribe to sociology, I do not see the world as one big unit. I see everyone as individuals who have a unique interpretation of events.

Sure, other countries are affected by our economic success; however, they may not share in our views of the world. Many wars have been fought over the lack of resources.

War does not stop for the sick, dying, elderly, or poverty of a people. If an outside invader knocks on our door, we would have no other alternative but to defend ourselves. Our other option is surrender.

As long as there are men and women to be drafted, we will always have the means to defend our country.

[edit on 18-9-2009 by Pathos]



reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 11:58 AM by serph
reply to post by Pathos



Good point and I have to say I reread your post and I get what you meant by it now. No harm right? plus it's a good debate and that's always healthy.

I wasn't getting into the socio implications only the economics of the matter. So I give you that yes anyone can start a war based on the aspects you outlined in your last post. The real question is will they? And will they base it solely on that alone? Will they also think on the ramifications on such action?

The last question above leads to this. If we are to entertain the theory of a third world war, in what way could you get the US involved on a third front and get the rest of the world in on it too and keep it from going to a full out nuclear exchange? Big question there with a lot of speculative answers. Maybe that should be a topic of another thread. LOL


reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 12:29 PM by Pathos
reply to post by serph

Its not your fault. I didn't flesh out my answer the right way.

"what way could you get the US involved on a third front and get the rest of the world in on it too and keep it from going to a full out nuclear exchange?" - serph
That is a tough question. I personally cannot answer this question. Since I am only taking the word of MSNBC (our reputation in the world is tarnished), I could only speculate on possibly inaccurate assumption made by a news media. Maybe someone more informed than I am can answer your question.


reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 12:42 PM by RobertAntonWeishaupt
reply to post by serph





The last question above leads to this. If we are to entertain the theory of a third world war, in what way could you get the US involved on a third front and get the rest of the world in on it too and keep it from going to a full out nuclear exchange? Big question there with a lot of speculative answers. Maybe that should be a topic of another thread. LOL


There we have the proof (circumstantial though it may be) that all this geo-politcal dramas are staged. The fact that real soldiers have to lose their lives in vast games orchestrated by TPTB is sick and saddening, of course, but let us focus on how Mutually Assured Destruction forces cooperation amongst the players of The Game.

If there is ever a WWIII w/o nukes, it will serve as definitive proof that it's all coordinated. If it comes down to nukes, we can eat Twinkies and tell the cockroaches how it turned out the world's nations were ACTUALLY in conflict with one another rather than united in the surpression of the masses.



reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 12:42 PM by Eurisko2012
reply to post by sanchoearlyjones



War? What war? Obama is all about "lets make a deal".
No wars.
Appease....appease....appease..........................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......
However, starting a war would create jobs.
FDR did that. WWII. The great depression ended.



reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 12:55 PM by open_eyeballs
reply to post by sanchoearlyjones



Im sorry. these doomer threads get worse and worse...where is your evidence of any war talk? especially between china and russia and the U.S.?

i just want to know how they are going to create war when our militarys are conducting joint exercises...we are financially dependant on one another and our politicians have been in kahoots for decades...especially with china...

russia turned a corner long ago...you are extending and applying neo con cold war arguments that are no longer in the front of americans minds...if israel strikes iran, there may be some recourse, but to what extent? expecially if they are tactical and very limited strikes to the nuclear sites...

as long as oil continues to flow, there will be no war...sorry to dissapoint

if oil stops flowing, then i may entertain the idea...but wouldnt jump to any conclusions...who knows maybe the lame duck UN could get something done... ..ok ya..thats not gunna happen...

edit to fix reply

[edit on 18-9-2009 by open_eyeballs]


reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 01:10 PM by spannera
reply to post by Desolate Cancer



Oh word thats awesome we have this in the bag I mean with Frances backing we are golden, those french sure know how to fight and win wars ...

It's not that the French are bad at fighting battles its just that the German army during the 2 world war were that good.


reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 01:13 PM by sanchoearlyjones
reply to post by Exuberant1



Thanks for the video; I'm off to watch it now, and the map is way cool. No doubt, Russia will be involved as will China. They are both being labeled as boogies by the US Govt. currently.

I tried to cover that in the OP, but there really is so much happening right now. As another poster noted; We are even creating a war scenario in South America.

reply to post by warrenb



Thanks, I appreciate Your added contribution to the thread

****************************************************************

Hi everyone, I posted this late last night, and just got back; so I'll be reading away.


reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 01:23 PM by open_eyeballs
reply to post by Quantum_Squirrel



thats a very fair response...

the thing is there are those who are so fearful they are willing to jump at any percieved indication that war is "imminent" or on teh horizon..

war has been imminent even before 9/11...but the fact remains the world has never been more united against war...but for religious motivations, political motivations, motivations spurred by fear people will continue until the end of time screaming doom and gloom...

its best to give more credence to the scholarly take and not the fringe.

But let me be honest and clear. It is good to have alarmists like the op in my opinion...because without them we may all fall into a haze of oblivious foolery...but sometimes it gets over done...especially through those three avenues previously mentioned.


reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 01:25 PM by OrphenFire
reply to post by RobertAntonWeishaupt



Brilliant post, friend.

I agree entirely with your line of thought.


reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 01:33 PM by open_eyeballs
reply to post by RobertAntonWeishaupt



oh wow..what an excelent post..well done! Bravo...Hear here!

amen..hallelujia...praise be to allah and santa clause..

seriously, that has to be one of the best posts i have read in weeks..
thanks

can you flag a post? you should be able to.
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