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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 06:06 AM by Dynamitrios
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Thats a good concept.
As i read somewhere else: "Don´t threaten their lives, threaten their jobs".
If no one is there to "govern" the "government would simply collapse under its own weight.
And please, please, please, if any Germans read this, or people who have knowlgde of German laws and statutes, and are savvy about how to pull this
thing of here in Europe(Germany) contact me immidiatelly (also seeking info about STRAWMAN redemption here in G.)
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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 06:22 AM by mikerussellus
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Hats off.
Well written and executed.
For some time now, I have debated people as to why we, as americans, just aren't suited to a socialistic form of government. People have asked why
we can't have socialized medicine. Why can't we have a socialized system, here. I try to explain that we are americans. It's just not in us to
do that.
You, my friend, have put it much more succintly.
S&F
digg'd as well.

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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 06:46 AM by cwt8466
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Wow. Just wow!
I just started coming here about a month or so ago, and this site never ceases to amaze me, or cease to keep me on such an "awakened" level. I have
been slowly working on prepping my family for the eventual offal hits the oscillating blade scenario, and this will be a great motivator.
Thank you for the motivation
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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 06:56 AM by thisguyrighthere
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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 06:56 AM by endisnighe
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Yes, I have been searching for something that only needs an individual to start this. If one person only sends this it may not work too well. I have
been hearing on MSM channels mumbles about it. If they try to take anyone to court on this imagine what they say. But sir, constitutional law does not
pertain in a situation like this.
It is a trap, if they try the cats out of the bag. I am not being a slave any longer. And if I can help the masses so be it.
Worldwide would be awesome!
Thanks for the compliment.
reply to post by mikerussellus
Thanks for the compliment. I myself have never received direct help from the government. Except of course for the student loans which they screwed me
over with. And schooling and roads are local matters paid for by local real estate taxes and fuel taxes.
And hell no, I do not want their help, intrusion or chains. Just leave me the hell alone. Try your social experiments on your kids.
edit for gramma
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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 06:59 AM by endisnighe
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I know all of that. I am ready for the risk. It is not like I am not giving them notice. I will be sending them all the info.
Here is what I ask you.
"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, go from us in peace.We seek not your
counsel or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; may your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our
countrymen!" --Samuel Adams
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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 07:04 AM by endisnighe
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I believe we must do something. I have had enough. The way they treat us we are slaves and they are the masters. I am going to post this again. It is
in my first comment. But it deserves another post.
2009-Year Of The Slave
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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 07:04 AM by Snappahead
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Nice idea, but where it may fall down is when push comes to shove. Part of claiming sovereignty over something infers you also have a legitimate
monopoly on exercising violence to protect your sovereignty. The state has the power to exercise violence upon its subjects backed by its legal
system. You can declare whatever you want, but unless you can back it up with violence then it will fail - the state (or incumbent sovereign entity)
will not act in a kindly manner when it can no longer levy it's taxes...
Please understand I am referring to violence here in the context of police/armed forces/militia - not random acts of aggression.
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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 07:10 AM by endisnighe
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Good point. That is why the declaration to all of my representatives. They have failed in their duties to protect my rights so I am giving them
notification that I am taking them back.
Now I am doing this in the open, I am not going to do any aggression. I would rather die than to continue under their tyranny. Risky as hell but as
one avatar on this thread says:
LIVE FREE OR DIE
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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 07:27 AM by HulaAnglers
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Starred and flagged, our birth certificates "bond" is worth billions. Canada is a Corporation Under UK Queen - Canada is
TRADED in the US Stock Exchange and registered as “…CORPORATE CANADA in USA. This is Canada’s Corporate registered number. 0000230098 CANADA DC
SIC: 8880 American Depositary Receipt. Business Address... Canadian Embassy 1746 Massachusetts Ave., NW, Washington, DC 20036…”
Economic collapse and genocide by bioweaponry and nutricide, foreclosures and fraudulent banksters who control the game with well armed police force
and the rise of the industrialized military complex
All the property of this country now belongs to the state and will be used for the good of the state. –
FDR, 1933
For you Canadians who are feeling smug that this is not happening in Canada consider that Canada is the 13th Federal Reserve District. Both USA/ CA
– the corporations – are subject to the jurisdiction of the Crown/ Vatican.
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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 08:03 AM by endisnighe
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Damn everyone of those videos I have either seen or have gleaned the info from other sites. I have gone over this before-not this thread-the PTB made
a mistake. With 20% of the workforce at home poor what are we doing? We are absorbing information. And what we are finding is not to are liking. And I
believe a lot of us are not the normal sheeple. We had good jobs and are intelligent. Are learning curves are going exponential and we are getting
pissed at what we are learning. Also the trolls, disinformation agents and provocateurs are having the opposite effect of what was intended. Thanks
for commenting and peace be with you.
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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 08:32 AM by autowrench
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Whoa there! I am with you in intent, but please investigate filing a Notice of Understanding and Right instead. That way you keep your driver's
licence, (under protest, to keep from being harassed all the time) and you can still draw from the SS trust if you are injured. Check here for what I
am talking about:
www.fmotl.com...
www.godlikeproductions.com...
www.scribd.com...
Check these forums for an understanding of Common Law principles before you file anything at all.
www.davidicke.com...
www.fmotl.com...
forum.worldfreemansociety.org... (Robert Maynard's Website)
Here a a righteous video anyone thinking of doing this should watch. A movement is starting on this Freeman thing, and it's growing by leaps and
bounds!
I have done this myself, I still collect social security, I still have a driver's license, and police do not bother me ever. If they do, and I go to
court, I stand on Freeman principles and know what to do. Never hire a lawyer!
Under our corporate governments no Sovereign can lawfully be tried or convicted of any statutory crime. I recently discovered how to avoid prosecution
under the Trust when a Sovereign is taken before a corporate prosecuting attorney or a judge:
First: “the Sovereign must inquire if we are on the record, and if not, insist upon it! Say nothing, sign nothing and answer no questions until you
are convinced that the proceedings are being recorded!”
Secondly: all a Sovereign has to say for the record is: “I am a beneficiary of the Trust, and I am appointing you as my Trustee.”
Thirdly: the Sovereign then directs his Trustee to do his bidding! “As my Trustee, I want you to discharge this matter I am accused of and eliminate
the record.”
Fourthly: if the Sovereign suffered any damages as a result of his arrest, he can direct that the Trust compensate him from the proceeds of the Court
by saying; “I wish to be compensated for [X] dollars, in redemption.”
This statement is sufficient to remove the authority and jurisdiction from any prosecuting attorney or judge. The accused will be immediately released
from custody with a check, license or claim he identifies as a damage. It doesn’t matter what the action involves or how it is classified by the
corporate law as a civil or criminal action. It works every time! All of the Codes, Statutes and Regulations throughout the United States are a Will
from the Masters to their Slaves. A Will is defined as, “An express command used in a dispositive nature.” When individuals in America are charged
with a crime and warehoused in a jail, it is because they went against the Will of the Masters and not because they harmed another person. Remember
that: The Will demands from us all that we are; keeps us in check; and promises us nothing!
source: abundanthope.net...
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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 08:38 AM by endisnighe
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Do you mean this. Yeah I have that in my wallet. You will be my trustee. Yeah, in about a week I am filing. That is why I need my fellow ATSers
thoughts I will go through your info.
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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 08:38 AM by HulaAnglers
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Knowing you know is reassuring to me, I wish I could meet a real live Free Man in person though!
I remember the time I spent in guilt - hypnotized into believing that I owed all that I am to whomever claimed it in whatever manner.
I have been raped and molested, harassed, betrayed, cheated, distorted, neglected, defamed. plagiarized, bullied, and taxed by society including
family and friends - for what? what am I paying for? is this my purpose here on earth? At every turn some dumb idiot wants take what I create and
destroy what I am.
Anyone who dares feed these parasites right now is also my potential enemy. Although the reality is infuriating and painful due to our seemingly
powerlessness, the word NO is quite effective! I am the living proof
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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 08:39 AM by tsloan
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Star and Flagged!
I think your post is one of the best in the political relm on this site. I can't even begin to tell you how sick I am of republicans and democrats. I
want to barf everytime I see one on T.V. just spitting lies out their mouth...
I feel like people in here are as dumb as a sack of rocks to just keep holding on to these political bi-opoly ideas. It's like battered wife
syndrome...
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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 08:42 AM by threekings
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Because we are governed mostly by UCC Law, (Commercial Law/Contractual Law) What this movement and these people are saying is actually true. The
problem with this though, is that it is damn near impossible to not enter contract with the corporation of the U.S. or the Corporation of Canada when
you have just about any dealings with them.
From what I understand you will not receive any document stating your sovereign status. You can live as a sovereign amongst normal people being a
person of the land. A living being, living on the land.
Except.... That if you want to do any commercial business at all, you are then subject to UCC Law, Commercial Law.
So don't go thinking you can renounce your commercial status and become a millionaire businessman.
It is more a state of thought than a status. And you must be very well versed in Law (Common Law) to make it work for you. Unfortunately, there are a
lot of people trying to use the sovereign/flesh and blood defense in court and they are getting their behinds served to them on a platter.
In court, acknowledging the all capital version of 'your name' is enough to enter contract in UCC Law. Also, making any type of plea or
acknowledging the court in any way brings you into contract. I've watched so many videos of people screwing up the process it just makes them and the
whole movement look ridiculous.
The truth is, is that these people are right. And nearly no one understands what personal rights and freedoms are. They can't differentiate their
commercial identity to their human identity. You are a human being, not a person. And under common law a human being can not enter any contract
whatsoever with an fictitious entity. (Corporation, person, etc.)
Every wonder why your name is in all capitals on all documents and contracts?
Regardless of these facts. The people that go for this defense are going to be ramrodded by the government to the fullest extent. And unless you
studied Law for 20 years you don't stand a chance in hell.
The best you can hope for is to be that crazy guy on the end of the street. What you really need is a revolution, one that made people realize they
have rights. The problem with that is that under UCC law and the current economic system it pays to support it. And everyone is taking a payoff. 'Who
cares if certain people don't have fundamental freedoms as long as I'm getting a check every month.'
Just remember, The US, UK, Canada, Austrailia, are all corporations. All have Law built from the same foundation. All have free constitutions that
have been warped and ignored.
Read over that last part again ... CORPORATIONS. What do corporations do? They make profit. They are business. Your politicians are members of the
corporation, they in turn do business with the business community. The police, department of motor vehicles, the ministries, everything, no matter
which one of those countries you are in are 'for profit' organizations. When was the last time you saw a corporation not trying to make money?
The police are security for the corporations, they are not police for the people. Statutes, Acts and so called laws are only apply to commercial
dealings. But because the way we are set up we begin commercial dealings from day 1. You are not a human being you are a person. And there are
benefits and major drawbacks. The people should know this, they can sell out to the idea, but everyone should at least have the choice.
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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 08:47 AM by Parallex
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This sort of thing has (as usual) been around for a while in the UK.
It's a legal term known as 'Lawful Rebellion' and was granted to the people of Britiain under Magna Carta. Essentially it allows the people to
exercise their right to govern themselves - and in our case in the UK - to reassert the common law defended by the monarch.
All you need is a notarised legal-practice to draw up the papers for you, sign it, witness it, and hey presto you are no longer subject to statute law
(roughly). Common Law still applies as this is a universal creedance.
The Para.
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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 08:53 AM by endisnighe
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I have read like 5 250 page books in the last 10 days, still absorbing. Yes to just give your name in a Corporate court can mean you have entered into
a contract. Your social security card-ever notice it is in capital letters? That is because their is two of you-one a free man-one a corporation. I
have been living outside the realm for so long. Now I am going to do it right now. I have had it with the tyranny. It is only a step away. I am
working on a thread-helps me put all the information together, that will outline the basics.
Their are no constitutional courts anymore, the first time I go in their, I am going to freak their minds.
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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 08:58 AM by endisnighe
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Actually you are close, but incorrect. No lawyer is required. If you do that you are falling into another contractual agreement. You must file with
all of your local, state and federal representatives. Am still working on the info. They made it hard, but my brain is like a sponge. Star for you and
thanks for commenting.
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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 09:08 AM by threekings
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If you can do it, the more power to you. I would suggest having it taped and then release it to the public. So far, the only successes I have found
have been wiped away from the internet. People need to see this actually work before they believe it. The people have chose to have the government
think for them. (AKA Statutes) They let the government do everything for them. There are no free thinking individuals anymore, but if you can do it
than I say good luck and god bless. I am not in the position to, but I would join if it became a realistic cause.
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