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Uncommon Video on WTC 7 Demolition: Can There Now Be Any Doubt?

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posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 02:55 PM
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Can someone post some other "official" images of Building 7?

We need to compare to this video to make sure this isn't another leg pull.

It would, however, be an interesting experiment to post a normal high-rise demolition, and see the twists and turns of deniars saying; "The compression of popping struts created a symbiotic resonant frequency that popped all the joints simultaneously -- typical in these sorts of incidents, really."

I could come up with better -- but it's pretty clear to the non-emotional side of my brain, that this video is a demolition. I just don't know WHICH building is being demolished, which should be easy to figure out with some landmarks.




posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by Seventh

Ever built a card pyramid?, as you build it there are obvious weak spots in various places, when it collapses does it collapse completely symmetrical each tier in unison with each other, or a random sporadic collapse, or the weakest links in the chain collapse and it ceases to collapse when the weak spots have failed?.

Buildings that are designed to shift load bearings do so to avoid a collapse, you don`t get one part running at 10% so the other 9 parts running at 100% donate 10% each to the 10% part, and then it collapses.


A card pyramid is nothing like a building where the outside walls are tied into the inside structure.
Cards in a pyramid is only balanced - not tied in.

If the inside structure of a building fails it will pull the outside walls inwards.

I'm sure that your pyramid would collapse in a more orderly fashion if you tape alle the outside cards together.

So what is your point with the free falling card pyramid?



posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by drock905
It takes months to wire a building for demolition. They have to strip all the structural beams of their outer layers, remove all the debris, pre weaken and cut the beams. Install and wire the building.

This all happened without anyone noticing? This happened with zero evidence of explosives left in the rubble, no blasting caps? no det cord? Nothing? What about the crew of workers? No one talked?

Besides i thought it was "nano-super-thermite" that brought the buildings down? Now its just normal explosives?

[edit on 18-9-2009 by drock905]

>> It's a trap to say how it was done -- that's all speculation.

It's obvious here, that we are looking at a Demolition. Maybe if we put Neal Bush on the stand with some government approved water boarding, he might calmly tell us.

The 65 $Billion in gold bullion that went missing from WTC 7 tells you that someone can very well drive a truck away without someone noticing. And a Billion and more dollars, can buy some top shelf equipment.

IF YOU, rigged the WTC for Demolition, and were paid a cool Billion, would YOU raise your hand and say; "Yep, I did it. Come over here, destroy my life and family, and take back all this money." Likely, the people who set the charges were the ones hired by the Government to investigate. So yeah, I think you could damn well hide anything.

They obviously didn't do that great of a job -- because I figured it out.


I'm guessing demolition crews dressed as security guards and rigged it at night, and everything had about a foot of sheetrock between it and the steel beams and bored accountants. Wireless charges and thermate at the core in the basement to pull it down. They probably started soon after Silverstein bought the rights to the building and doubled the insurance.

The cost of removing the asbestos was going to likely cost about $2 Billion. Silverstein took control (if my spotty memory gets this right) for about $147 Million and the insurance paid him $7 to $9 Billion.


The mob keeps their mouth shut all the time -- and we've got thousands in our so called "news media" and they've yet to report Sibel Edmunds story about Dennis Hastert working for Turkey and the selling of nuclear secrets to our enemies.

"Somebody would have noticed." Well we did, and we've been social pariahs and ridiculed for years. If we finally get the proof, the rest of this country needs to kiss our @sses for a few decades and eat humble pie.



posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 03:11 PM
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This shows just how much debris hit WTC 7 during the collapse but you will never find it on a Truther site.



Next, here is a video that shows it starting to collapse from the inside and the roof drops before the collapse showing structural integrity is gone.

Here is a link to the video....

www.youtube.com...

or how about this one where it leans....

www.youtube.com...


You see, if you look at something hard enough it will always make sense...



posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 03:16 PM
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reply to post by TrueAmerican
 


They gravitized the buildings.
Using thermite cuting charges.
Around the main support I Beams.
Its how you bring a building down.
Learned that in the Military.

But this is old news.

TPTB are never going to tell the truth about 911, just like there never going to tell you the truth about where the 24 trillion dollars went to. Or if Aliens are real, or anything else they deem CLASSIFIED.

Blows but thats life..






posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by turbofan
reply to post by TrueAmerican
 


The evidence is only obvious to those not involved in the cover-up of the truth.



thats a pretty unfounded opinion there, isnt it possible that the first 2 buildings collapse damaged the underground support structures of the 3rd building? also for you thermite people, since thermite doesnt explode it would have to be wired for explosives and have thermite charges wow thats amazing how all that happend without anyone knowing.

frankly im tired of people calling names or tearing someone down for not beleiving the government planned this, maybe we just need alot more proof as we are not so ready to jump on the conspiracy bandwagon, i prefer to look at both sides.



posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 03:29 PM
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I am amazed that some of you are claiming this is not NYC. Especially if you lived there. Shame on you.

STOP THE VIDEO AT EXACTLY 16 SECONDS.

Now what do you see in the background on the far left????

There is NO mistaking the Woolworth building.

But that's ok. You're forgiven. I can also say that most serious 9/11 researchers around here would have nailed me on that right away if this was not NYC.

No YOU try again. This IS NYC, and that IS WTC7. 100%, no mistake about it. Thank you.



posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 03:45 PM
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Its hard not to take into account the knowledge of how desperate Cheney and gang were for an excuse to go to war in the ME on Iraq. That plus the fact that Bush believed that he was getting his instructions directly from God, making it probable that he thought whatever loss of life was OK because God told him to do it.


It is also not hard to imagine how the Israeli's were eager to take advantage of this; and thus "persons of interest" in the whole thing.

It may be hard to paint a picture with individual pieces of evidence alone, such at WT7 demolition, but when you put all the material and circumstantial evidence together its hard not come to the conclusion that Bin Laden was not a key player, if any kind of player at all besides a handy scapegoat.

Israel, Cheney, Jeb Bush and others at high government and military levels come out as prime suspects; probably in collusion with each other.



posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 04:18 PM
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So why then only building 7 why not other buildings ? and why did it collapse in a freefall fashion from debris? so much faith in ones government that we forget cold hard physics.

there were plenty of buildings that would have had more of a chance collapsing from falling debris than building 7 ,

and no mention from you on the fact that this type of collapse has never been seen to happen from anything else in known architectural history.

except demolitions

how many people died in building 7? what was in building 7?

lets just forget everything about facts and how science really works, because if you believe the 911 commission that is what you have to do.



posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 04:55 PM
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I think the center sags first because the center columns were taken out first, which would be the case is this was a professional demolition. Then the side columns would be taken out.

The detonators were probably phosphorous charges, linked to Nano thermite demolition charges ('Nano-thermite' will cut steel with an energetic explosive action, rather than a slowish melting action, so is ideal for demolition purposes) placed around the columns in required areas and configurations.
We see what could possibly be a miss-fire of one of the detonation charges after the building begins to fall. This may have been a delayed miss-fire, in that the charge was primed but the triggering timing went awry for some reason. The charge was ejected by the blast of an adjacent charge, emerging outside, and then detonating in a bright blue white flash.

Of course, it could also be an electric arc flash from a severed power cable..(Occam's would suggest the former, given the supporting physical evidence of demolition) but the possibility exists that it was an explosive, dislodged and triggered late. If nothing else, it's food for thought.

Thanks to the OP.



posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 05:00 PM
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Thanks. That sounds pretty good.

I'm originally from NY, but that was years ago -- I'm not familiar with the buildings.

>> Still reading the week comments that "here is my scenario for how it was done so it's obviously impossible."

Again, let's point out; the only steel structured buildings to collapse like this, free fall speed (though the NIST first lied about WTC 7 on that account). Kerosene "obviously" collapsed the first 2, unlike every other steel building that was engulfed for hours -- DAYS in flames -- not just a few floors. Those didn't fall.

Now we have some "debris" or fires that spread through underground tunnels.

Free fall speed happens, only at the WTC and during a demolition.

>> Then we add the MO of the likely perps; stole an election, lied about a war, torture memos after the torture, wire-taps on political opponents and journalists. They are the stinking mafia with better suits. Let's quit pretending, that we are talking about noble leaders here -- they are unconvicted war criminals.

Have we forgotten the Anthrax that landed on the desks of the TWO people who were raising a stink about the Patriot Act and were in a position to stop it? Tracked back to a weapons lab that was COINCIDENTALLY, the lab that was tasked with tracking it down. Then John McCain, talks on Letterman about 4 scientists who were SURE that it came from Afghanistan. Why is the FBI not talking to McCain about who they might be, since their one suspect committed suicide? Nothing to see here folks, move along.



posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 05:03 PM
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You're right.

I'ts strange how physics is neglected in situations such as this, but screamed at folks in alternative or over unity energy discussions, isn't it.

Do the laws of physics change according to which subject is being discussed?



[edit on 18/9/2009 by spikey]



posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by esdad71
What you are seeing is the inner collapse of the building and the windows exploding outwards...


Yup.

The video edits out the collapse of the penthouse into the building's interior.

If it DID include that portion, you'd see a how as it does, the vertical line of windows breaking follows it perfectly.

But, this is ATS, where all manner of lunacy, disinfo, and denialism is embraced.....



posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 06:29 PM
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The trouble is, (not disagreeing with the beginning of collapse) is that the wall most brightly lit, seemingly mostly undamaged, and i'm thinking that it a is West or Westerly wall, goes down in compliance to the rest of the building ie; straight down. If any wall was to bend in the collapse this should have been the one, and that should have been toward the East or inwards but it didn't. To me that wall's integrity was compromised somewhere near the bottom.



posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by ReturnOfGoukilock
reply to post by esdad71
 


So why then only building 7 why not other buildings ? and why did it collapse in a freefall fashion from debris? so much faith in ones government that we forget cold hard physics.

there were plenty of buildings that would have had more of a chance collapsing from falling debris than building 7 ,

and no mention from you on the fact that this type of collapse has never been seen to happen from anything else in known architectural history.

except demolitions

how many people died in building 7? what was in building 7?

lets just forget everything about facts and how science really works, because if you believe the 911 commission that is what you have to do.


1. There is no faith in government but it is pretty obvious what happened if you do not look for conspiracy

2. WTC 5 and 6 were destroyed and were much smaller
3. Yes, this has happened before. Do some research
4. I know what was in the building and it means nothing...they rebuilt it to.



posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by Eye of Horus
reply to post by TrueAmerican
 


They gravitized the buildings.
Using thermite cuting charges.
Around the main support I Beams.
Its how you bring a building down.
Learned that in the Military.

But this is old news.

TPTB are never going to tell the truth about 911, just like there never going to tell you the truth about where the 24 trillion dollars went to. Or if Aliens are real, or anything else they deem CLASSIFIED.

Blows but thats life..



Thanks Horus,
Your statement only adds to the knowingness of how silly was the recent Nat Geo documentary on 9/11, if you saw it you will remember that the Thermite they used as a demo to cut steel was useless, because it was not of the "right" type of Thermite that was suggested by the 9/11 for truth people, and as they pointed out. You are the first person so far to state that these kind of cutting charges are real.



posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 08:27 PM
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Great video, really I don't see how a sane, logical person could not admit to the very obvious. My father and a few friends have refused to admit anything shady was going on September 11th 2001. Perhaps it's some sort of defense mechanism where they refuse to open there eyes and minds to the very obvious questions that are screaming to be answered.

I'd always show the building seven video and ask why did this building fall? Ok if accept that the Twin Towers fell from air plane fuel burning and the two towers pan caked at the speed of gravity then how do you explain building 7? No one has been able to explain building 7 other then it was demolished for some unknown reason.

Building 7 is the prime example and where one would want to begin there argument for an inside job because it is the most obvious. When a person sees for themselves suddenly they are open to more possibilities.

It's amazing because an person with a open mind would see the videos, pictures, first hand reports, ect and start to ask questions. Then we have those who accept the force feeding from the media and the government and don't even think twice to think for themselves.

This video and other videos of building 7 pan caking on top of it self is undeniable that there was in fact something very fishy that went on that day.

So when you run into those thick headed types just show them this video or any other building 7 video and suddenly they become much more open minded on the matter.

Thank God more and more material is coming out every year. Maybe 50 years down the road we will have the declassified reports on this whole tragic event.


[edit on 18-9-2009 by oconnection]



posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 08:34 PM
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Your statement only adds to the knowingness of how silly was the recent Nat Geo documentary on 9/11, if you saw it you will remember that the Thermite they used as a demo to cut steel was useless, because it was not of the "right" type of Thermite that was suggested by the 9/11 for truth people, and as they pointed out. You are the first person so far to state that these kind of cutting charges are real.


Good God, I saw that on TV and was amazed how they came to there conclusion. They sold it as if the MSM was finally going to examine the conspiracy side of 9/11 and come to some sort of new conclusion. But no, nice marketing scheme but I was very disappointed with the whole show. Propaganda, false advertising, bate and switch in the classical sense.

[edit on 18-9-2009 by oconnection]



posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 08:41 PM
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Another good post by people professing the truth!!!

It is so damn frustrating that there are so many people that deny what they see.

They make excuses and regurgitate the official story.

We know that the government will never reveal the truth. It is just unbelievable that after so long there are still so many people that will not even acknowledge the whole thing looks strange.

Two giant skyscrapers fall into basically their footprint. (with the last one hit having most of the impact damage on one corner and most of the "fuel" go out the side of the building in a ball of flame, being the first one to fall)

One 47 story building falling into basically its own foot print with what appears to be minimal damage from falling debris and a fire as the cause of its collapse.

The expedited removal of the evidence from the worlds largest crime seen.

The extremely strong opposition to discuss all the possibilities for the fall of the buildings.

And the list goes on and on.

Here is another link to a you tube example of compiled testimony of explosions being heard before the buildings fell, it is not 100% evidence of anything, but it does give reason to keep questioning the official reasons.

www.youtube.com...

Great Post, S & F.

PS- I find it strange that every time a 911 post goes up it goes under "Close Scrutiny because of members request"



posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 08:48 PM
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Originally posted by smurfy
To me that wall's integrity was compromised somewhere near the bottom.



It was.

Read the NIST report, and where they describe how col 79 buckled around the 13th floor.

Your observation fits perfectly with NIST's explanation.



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