Uncommon Video on WTC 7 Demolition: Can There Now Be Any Doubt?, page 3
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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 04:37 AM by hadriana
The way I understand it, the official story is that building 7 was built on a truss system - 911research.wtc7.net... and I'd think that skeptics would say that the 'explosions' we are seeing is the force of pressure blowing windows out as the truss collapses.

But it doesn't fit, to me, why that would occur in a straight line UP well over the top of the truss, and in such a straight, linear pattern.

It looks to me like if there were a few explosions on opposite sides, over those trusses, like shown here, that then led the trusses to fail.

This one actually looks like it could be modeled more easily and more importantly, more definitively, than some of the other ones.

There's a ton of software already out there to calculate trusses/weight. Beams not so much, but truss design software is more advanced and calculates all that weight and stuff automatically without any designer having to size beams ect. I ONLY know that to be true in houses and smaller buildings with multiple floors. It has to be a simpler geometrical calculation, I'd think.

Just eyeballing it, doesn't that line of pre-fall "BOOMS" look like they'd be over splices in those trusses?

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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 05:27 AM by calstorm
reply to post by Manwin



I guess I'll never wake up then.

I think its possible, but this video doesn't tell me anything. I've never seen a demolition before, and I have never seen an airplane crash into a building before. I have watched it over and over and I just can't tell.
You guys have me pretty much convinced that a plane didn't hit the pentagon, but they could have taken advantage of the WTC's, which of course that would mean they had previous knowledge, but it still looks to me that those planes could have brought down the towers.


reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 05:30 AM by iamhuman
reply to post by TrueAmerican



So at what point will something be done to bring these criminals to justice?


reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 05:32 AM by iamhuman
reply to post by hadriana



Surely the point here is that NOTHING HIT WT7. So what caused it to collapse if not demolition charges?


reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 05:32 AM by aero56
reply to post by C-JEAN



I've read that Marvin Bush, cousin of GW Bush, was in charge of providing security at WTC. Here is a link

whatreallyhappened.com...



reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 06:09 AM by eyeswilldeceive
reply to post by Black Mambo



Yep i think people who are attracted to politics and leading others are largely all alike trying to exploit a niche in which to live.Its just we the sheep over centuries of living in communities have gradually become bio engineered into believing they are here for us,which species is ever here for another creature,none,now and again you do get humans who really do live to help others and its the same in politics but the majority are nothing but vampires in it for their own agendas nothing more


reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 07:06 AM by hgfbob
Originally posted by Prove_It_NOW
I'm confused. People say "charges" as if some usual detonation device, then they say "nanothermite" or "superthermite". Which one is it?

I believe some sort of explosive means was used to bring down the towers. However, I'm always stuck when people use different terms to explain these explosions.

Let's see, if it was "nanothermite" would it be sprayed on? An Aerosol? A Gel?


Nanoscale Chemestry Yeilds Better Explosives

Energetic nanocomposites have a fuel component and an oxidizer component mixed together. One example is a gel made of an oxidizer with a fuel embedded in the pores of the gel. In one such material (termed a thermite pyrotechnic), iron oxide gel reacts with metallic aluminum particles to release an enormous amount of heat. "These reactions typically produce temperatures in excess of 3,500 degrees Celsius," says Simpson. Such thermites have traditionally been produced by mixing fine powders of metal oxides and metal fuels. "Conventionally, mixing these fine powders can result in an extreme fire hazard. Sol-gel methods can reduce that hazard while dispersing extremely small particles in a uniform way not possible through normal processing methods,"
source


And as far as the explosion in the video, the other video shows the windows in more of a reaction to the building falling, other than a precursor.

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THESE are the questions that should have been answered in the NIST 'HYPOTHESIS'...

BUT, the scientists that were charged to find out HOW and WHY, three buildings had total global collapse...
NOT to find out how 'ONLY FIRE' could have done it

Think about it...since WHEN, do SCIENTISTS, PICK and CHOOSE...ignoring FACTS in lieu of another agenda

WHY would they NOT test for explosives and accelerants, when EVERY other investigator in this country HAS to do it as a MANDATORY step in PROCEDURE in crimes involving fire according to NFPA 921... "Guide for Fire and Explosion Investigations". The national fire code published by The National Fire Protection Association, is the standard for fire and explosion investigations.

It clearly states that if there is a crime scene that involves fire, tests must be conducted to determine whether residues from any pyrotechnic or incendiary material can be found.

how does ONE persons 'opinion', negate this step?

7 IS the smoking gun of 9-11.....it slaps you in the face it is SO obvious

as soon as the kink is formed, the HVAC, 'other' Penthouse, roof, facade, within 0.5 seconds from each other, have free fall ACCELERATION for 100+ft. ALL support was INSTANTLY taken away, AS WE SEE by the EVEN decent
If there was a progression from east to west
WE WOULD SEE IT...the roof WILL NOT support itself while columns fail below it. the facade is a non supporting structure, and IS attached to the perimeter columns it will not stand while the columns fail behind it.

You can not remove support, and have, what is 'being supported', MAGICALLY hanging, waiting for the 'all-clear' to EVENLY fall with ACCELERATION

falling ONLY from office combustibles...from fire WE CANT SEE from the windows....EVENLY brought down the ENTIRE structure at a rate you can ONLY achieve if there is a CLEAR path to do so...that is the ONLY way an object can accelerate

[NCSTAR1A-3.2]"It is likely that much of the burning took place beyond the views of the windows"

[NCSTAR1A-3.2]
"The fires were fed by ordinary office combustibles"

[NCSTAR1A 3.6]"constant, downward acceleration during this time interval. This acceleration was 32f/s^2,(9.8m/s^2), equivalent to the acceleration of gravity.
This free fall drop continues for approximately 8 stories or 32 meters,(105ft.), the distance traveled between t=1.75s and t=4.0s.


oh and BTW for ANY of you who like "phases"


free fall ACCELERATION is NOT a "phase" to which you can AVERAGE out free fall, like NIST tries to do

free fall ACCELERATION is an EVENT all itself...it CAN'T be averaged out to SLOW it down


no video or pics show ANY kind of 'total global causing inferno'..ANYWHERE to support the NIST HYPOTHESIS...not even in the NIST report itself...they could NOT find ANYTHING to back up their HYPOTHESIS....so they DREW illustrations to push their theory


reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 08:08 AM by PenandSword
The facts and proof are undeniable at this stage. 9/11 was indeed an inside job by the enemy within. Why that is not understandable by the sheep is beyond comprehension with these facts.

9/11 was America's Reichstag Fire. The Swine Flu that coming is man-made. The wars that followed 9/11 were to weaken America's military, plunder our economy, and pass draconian laws. Need proof? Just look at Obama and his gang. Look at what is going on in Massachusetts. 9/11 was the past. There is nothing that can be done about that right now with a completely corrupt government. Corrupt top to bottom and side to side.

Our focus now, as I see by this board which has done a TREMENDOUS job, in connecting dots ahead of events and calling TPTB to floor. By us knowing their evil plans it buys us time. We need to stay out in front of H1N1 and make sure everyone tells everyone they know it is fake and is designed to kill people who take, and to also round up people that are onto the TPTB. They are getting a 2fer. We will not allow it to happen.

Let me be clear. Freedom is not just knowing...it is doing. And by doing I mean sometimes you have to make the ultimate sacrifice. There are some of us here that will have to lay our lives down for the greater good of a better mankind...and trust me, God knows, and for that you will be rewarded, and evil will spend infinity in the realms of darkness and damnation.



reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 08:16 AM by trueforger
reply to post by Prove_It_NOW


The nano thermate is very reactive.Ya don't need nitroglicerine to get an explosion,hell even flour will explosively level a building.All that is required is enough oxygen to support the chemical reaction.This,incidentally,is why those dark smoke clouds could not have come from a truly HOT fire,as fires go.A hot fire,hot enough to hot work steel,has a clean fire with little smoke.In the nano thermate the O2 is supplied by the iron oxide component,and that must be in the correct proportion.

No if's ands or buts,really.

It's not up to us to show exactly how it was done(application methods,access times,etc)we're not the perps.All we have shown is the way they say it happened is not possible,so now a real murder investigation is called for.Not with that NIST hotspot denier-liar(story on fire),either.
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