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reply posted on 3-10-2009 @ 04:51 PM by useless eaters

reply to post by Dragonelle

Trust me on this........I am an independant also, and I am here to tell you in all honesty, being a right wing republican is not a prerequesite for hateing, slandering, accuseing, bad mouthing, being biased, racist or doing any of the evils all mankind is guilty of. Those who are promoting this are wrong. It is something equally shared by every facet of every group of mankind. It's what we all have in common. Only those with agendas make it appear otherwise.

reply posted on 3-10-2009 @ 04:54 PM by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by useless eaters
I am here to tell you in all honesty, being a right wing republican is not a prerequesite for hateing, slandering, accuseing, bad mouthing, being biased, racist or doing any of the evils all mankind is guilty of.

I agree with you. I am not suggesting that the far right is the ONLY group that has problems. I'm just exploring those of the far right in this thread. Every group has their extremists and haters. That is just common sense.

reply posted on 3-10-2009 @ 05:13 PM by useless eaters

reply to post by amazed

You'll get no argument from me that, the Bush family that has a history of being involved with Hitler. By the same measure, the horrors of communist China and Russia were examples of the unchecked extreams of the liberal left.

It's just to obvious that evil has infiltrated both ends of the political spectrum. I find it hard to imagine that anyone would claim evil belongs exclusively to just one political party. Yet I get the feeling that's what is being sold here. It is wrong, evil simply does not work that way in the real world.

So, which side is more evil, the left, the right, the middle? The answer to that is, has, and will forever be, a matter of opinion, nothing more!

reply posted on 3-10-2009 @ 05:25 PM by useless eaters

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic

Yea well, sometimes common since is not so common. If you feel extreamism is evident in all political groups that sounds good to me.That being the case, it does however make me wonder your reason for starting the thread. But that's OK, I am free to wonder, same as you.

reply posted on 3-10-2009 @ 05:30 PM by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by useless eaters
That being the case, it does however make me wonder your reason for starting the thread.

I said why I started the thread in the first post. It's something I saw on TV and learned something from it. Isn't that why a good many of the threads on ATS are started? People learning something and wanting to share it?

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
This interview with Frank Shaeffer (Former life-long Republican and author of "Crazy for God") was on Rachel Maddow last night and I was glad I caught it.
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This really opened my eyes as to some of the “debates” I have here on ATS.

Originally posted by useless eaters
I find it hard to imagine that anyone would claim evil belongs exclusively to just one political party. Yet I get the feeling that's what is being sold here.

That feeling you're getting is entirely your perception. I did a thread on the Left-Wing subculture, too.

[edit on 3-10-2009 by Benevolent Heretic]

reply posted on 4-10-2009 @ 07:32 PM by amazed

Originally posted by useless eaters
reply to post by amazed

You'll get no argument from me that, the Bush family that has a history of being involved with Hitler. By the same measure, the horrors of communist China and Russia were examples of the unchecked extreams of the liberal left.

It's just to obvious that evil has infiltrated both ends of the political spectrum. I find it hard to imagine that anyone would claim evil belongs exclusively to just one political party. Yet I get the feeling that's what is being sold here. It is wrong, evil simply does not work that way in the real world.

So, which side is more evil, the left, the right, the middle? The answer to that is, has, and will forever be, a matter of opinion, nothing more!

I agree with much of what you say, except, I am definitely not selling "one side" as being evil and the other not.

My thoughts are that any politician, anywhere, with any beliefs, has the possibility of "selling out" ie becoming "evil".

It seems to be something about "power", and politicians do have power.

It reminds me of an old saying "absolute power corrupts absolutely".

I've seen it as long as I have been "aware" of politics and paid attention, which would be back in the 80's when I was taking government classes in school. Even Independents are becoming corrupt.

It's sad, and I am not sure how we will ever move away from it until EVERY single person in this country stops allowing themselves to be sidetracked and pay attention to the real issues. ie death panels, socialism, equating any president with Hitler etc. etc. take away from the real discussions which should be happening. Sadly people fall right into that trap, and never even see it. Admittedly, I am sure I do to.

We need to stand together and demand that our government do things that help the people ie No bailouts for big businesses, corporations need intense regulating, the people should be allowed the freedom of living their lives, without constantly worrying about which corporation is lying to them the MOST. Not IF they are lying to us.

Simple things like your shampoo, we have to research like mad to find out what is in it, if what is in it is dangerous to us, who paid off who to allow a product to be put on the market, and on with a million other issues.

Corruption has become "the American way", and it is a symptom of a larger sickness, and we are all involved in it in some way or another, even if in no other way but by being sidetracked by true non issues, and not standing up for and paying attention and discussing real issues in a non violent, non hateful manner.

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reply posted on 4-10-2009 @ 08:23 PM by Fromabove

Obama IS an anti-Christ. Anti-Christ is anything the opposes or replaces Christ. He cancelled the national day of prayer. He won't sit in a church. He supports abortion, fetal experimentaion etc. He believes in social just which is just another form of fascism and racial hatred.

As for THE Antichrist, I don't believe so because he doesn't fit the credentials. He must be of Jewish descent and an apostate christian, and while he has the "apostate" down, He is Islamic, from the line of Ishmael, not of the seed of Abraham.

Obama is simply another fascist who (if you know your history) is repeating the same mistakes Hitler made. A youth core army, child indoctrination, get those rich dudes and take all their money, state run everything. He even has a cult following who say he can do no wrong. Luey Farrikan (excuse spelling) even declared Obama the "messiah".

reply posted on 5-10-2009 @ 10:23 AM by amazed

Originally posted by Fromabove
Obama IS an anti-Christ. Anti-Christ is anything the opposes or replaces Christ. He cancelled the national day of prayer. He won't sit in a church. He supports abortion, fetal experimentaion etc. He believes in social just which is just another form of fascism and racial hatred.

As for THE Antichrist, I don't believe so because he doesn't fit the credentials. He must be of Jewish descent and an apostate christian, and while he has the "apostate" down, He is Islamic, from the line of Ishmael, not of the seed of Abraham.

Obama is simply another fascist who (if you know your history) is repeating the same mistakes Hitler made. A youth core army, child indoctrination, get those rich dudes and take all their money, state run everything. He even has a cult following who say he can do no wrong. Luey Farrikan (excuse spelling) even declared Obama the "messiah".

Yeah, just like that, this is how we should work through the issues of this country. (that was intense sarcasm if everyone did not pick up on that)

Actually, the above posting was a great example of what I was talking about. Running off on what are true non issues ie child indoctrination (duh not happening), instead of debating true issues ie great education for children that is affordable for everyone.

All groups do this, not just the far right, not just the far left, and not just the center.

Harm None
Peace

reply posted on 5-10-2009 @ 10:46 PM by SevenThunders

Originally posted by amazed

Actually, the above posting was a great example of what I was talking about. Running off on what are true non issues ie child indoctrination (duh not happening), instead of debating true issues ie great education for children that is affordable for everyone.