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Australia's growing list of 'banned' video games

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posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 07:46 AM
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So I read today that another video game, Left 4 Dead 2, is being defacto banned in Australia.


Gabe Newell may be going to Australia, but his latest game, Left 4 Dead 2, is not. The Australian government has refused classification to the upcoming zombie shooter's "realistic, frenetic and unrelenting violence." Because the Australian ratings system doesn't offer an 18+ rating for games, Left 4 Dead 2 joins the growing list of games banned by the government. Source


Australia is a first world nation up there with the U.S. and the U.K. and all. If there were something banned like this in either of those countries people would have opinions and they'd be found all over the place.

Just seems like whenever a game gets banned in Australia nobody cares. Am I just not looking in the right places? Are their bans largely 'in name only' and the availability of the banned material is high enough that any ban wouldnt matter? Or are the Australians really okay with being treated like little children and welcome such bans?

I'm not used to 'bans' being taken so apparently lightly so I have to ask.




posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 07:52 AM
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Found a complete list of games banned in Australia: Wiki list

There's some pretty ridiculous things on here like a football game and a BMX game.



posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 08:00 AM
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a lot of australians are fed up with this including me. there have been many bans on highly anticipated games, it just doesnt make any sense. there really needs to be an R rating for video games, like buying movies, adults can make up their mind if the game will be too violent for them. the attorney general is the only person who has the power to do this, and he doesnt care. this will just promote importing and illegal downloading.



posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 08:03 AM
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I feel for you mate, just hope they dont ban modern warfare 2 or bioshock 2 for you.



posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 08:04 AM
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Can't you order them from the U.S.? Or is there some shady guy on the corner selling them?



posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 08:07 AM
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Here is my theory. I am a gamer. PC and PS2 only. Why feed the corps. F'em Download em. We live in a corrupt world society. Where games and knowledge gets banned. GO AUSSIES. US here.



posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 08:15 AM
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Say it ain't so, Left 4 Dead 2 is my most highly anticipated game, thank god I don't live in Australia. If I did I'd be extremely upset, what sort of a free country just starts slamming the door on things, what gives them the right? Will they be banning or burning books that are deemed offensive next?

And how will the guy from Zero Punctuation continue to do his reviews if they ban half the games he wants to review?



posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 08:26 AM
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Shameful. I was very much looking forward to that game. What are we meant to do though?
Like the previous poster said, hope they don't ban MW2. If they do there will be an uproar I'm sure.



posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 08:27 AM
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Whenever a game gets banned here in Australia there is just as much anger and yelling about it but it tends to be overlooked by the media, being that they are all in bed with each other. But rest assured, the subject is far from dead here, us Aussie gamers just need to keep slogging it out until someone takes notice.

The bans don't really stop any Aussie with a little know-how anyways.



posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 08:28 AM
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Saudi Arabia banned pokemon lol "because of "promoting Zionism and gambling." Thats hillarious, who would have thought that the Saudis were crazy? Slight sarcasm, no offense intended.



posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 08:38 AM
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The game is by VALVE.
So it should be down loadable for PC through Steam



posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 08:38 AM
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Its pathetic how they can ban video games when there are movies out there like Saw, Hostal, and the list goes on...

Well if they want to ban anything with vionlence in then that would include the MSM, Movies and Music.

Parents should do the right thing and buy the game with the right certificate on.

Adults playing these games is no different to watching a horror flick. what is the difference?

[edit on 17/9/09 by Ezappa]



posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 08:42 AM
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Something tell's me that while The KRuddster is in charge of the country we will not be seeing any changes in the way games are classified. He's the type of bloke who would agree with banning it because of the violence.

Not saying Turnip would either, he's just as bad.



posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 08:43 AM
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There is still a negative perception of video games in Australia. While the number of gamers has increased dramatically over the last decade, the social acceptance of it as a genuine entertainment hobby is low. I agree that a r18 classification needs to be passed. I mean, I can go buy the most violent of action movies, horror movies, porn, so why not a violent video game?

I bet most of the opposition will be along the lines of "our children don't need MORE violent video games, there are enough" or "video games are not good for teenagers!" Hello! r18 means it is for adults (18+).

What kind of people are on this classification board anyway? Old, cranky, bored and self-righteous bats I would guess.



posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 08:45 AM
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I can see it now, the endless reports by A Current Affair and Today Tonight wondering why god why would anyone forget the children.......

.......followed by a report on why supermarkets are poisonous to our health.

[edit on 17/9/2009 by Kryties]



posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 09:00 AM
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Honestly, while it may suck, just download it. Yes maybe try to do something about it, petition or write letters though, don't just whine at each other about it.
But in the meantime, there are obviously ways. Get someone to send it to oyu in a box with other stuff, download it, etc.



posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 09:05 AM
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Originally posted by wycky
The game is by VALVE.
So it should be down loadable for PC through Steam


The problem here is. Is an Aussie ISP going to host the game and put up alot of servers for L4D2 if the game is banned? I reckon not and i havent been in very many L4D privately hosted games.

So our only hope is the Kiwi's < never thought i would say that
> and hope there ISP's put servers up!!

I love having men in suits that dont have my values baby sitting me and deciding what i can and cant see,read,play....



posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 09:12 AM
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So Aussies are just pirating the banned games?

Has Australia been hit by those ridiculous multi-million dollar copyright law suits?

Seems like the country would be a ripe farm for the picking with a policy like this in place that actually encourages piracy and a black market.

I was a pretty shocked to see that Australia had more games on that banned list than any other country.

Singapore canes you for chewing gum in public (at least they used to) and they only have two games on their list.



posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by thisguyrighthere

Has Australia been hit by those ridiculous multi-million dollar copyright law suits?

Seems like the country would be a ripe farm for the picking with a policy like this in place that actually encourages piracy and a black market.


Yep, you are correct sir! Down Under we have what we call the "Big 3" ISP's - Telstra, Optus and iiNet (who I'm with). Since Telstra and Optus have way too much money and could keep a legal battle in court for decades, iiNet on the other hand is relatively new and doesn't have a large bank account like the other two, so they went after them.

www.lifehacker.com.au...

Basically, they are accusing iiNet of not passing on any Cease and Desist letters it gets sent. iiNet basically told them to get a warrant before they could see their records. That's all. Seriously, the PTB can't even get enough evidence to get a warrant for crying out loud.



posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by Kryties

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere

Has Australia been hit by those ridiculous multi-million dollar copyright law suits?

Seems like the country would be a ripe farm for the picking with a policy like this in place that actually encourages piracy and a black market.


Yep, you are correct sir! Down Under we have what we call the "Big 3" ISP's - Telstra, Optus and iiNet (who I'm with). Since Telstra and Optus have way too much money and could keep a legal battle in court for decades, iiNet on the other hand is relatively new and doesn't have a large bank account like the other two, so they went after them.

www.lifehacker.com.au...

Basically, they are accusing iiNet of not passing on any Cease and Desist letters it gets sent. iiNet basically told them to get a warrant before they could see their records. That's all. Seriously, the PTB can't even get enough evidence to get a warrant for crying out loud.


wow i didn't know that, maybe i should switch then.... but i like iiNet, i was even thinking of getting BOB


[edit on 17/9/2009 by wycky]



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