don't forget to add 30% to your estimate of what you'll need for bartering, because if the economy rolls over and dies, and you have no hope in the world, you will be doing more than bartering with the alchohol and cigarettes

house of mirrors, i like your confidence, but is it truth or the power of positive thinking that you say?
The goods from asia have always been cheap and the quality has improved considerably. goods were being sold to the consumer ,cheaper than what the raw materials could be bought for in own country, for this reason (the cost) home manufacturing has reduced so much,also created more and more unemployment. This puts a bigger drain on the rest of the population who are working to keep depression at bay. Less money in pocket is less money spent. more unemployment.
Asia now sells less goods ,now they are in recession. cause there is no one buying their goods as before.
We are told the green shoots are starting to show recession is coming slowly to an end???? HOW? Has the world leaders actually found a magic wand each that really works!
where has this growth come from?, people have either lost their job ,or working less hours, or had a pay freeze, or took a pay cut, certainly LESS money around not more,
oh i see the property market is moving yes, property developers have bought up cheap rate property from those that owned them, by getting cheap loans from the banks that was propped up with tax payers money,and now renting them out to people who lost their homes, are these the shoots, or maybe its, well we fooled the people before and they believed us ,maybe we can do it again.
The easy answer is to print more money (as whats been done) then take the credit for difficult times with , we can get through this if we stick together.

In this world there are almost 7 billion people a high % of them hungry, do you think being told things will get better will change their attitude(they don,t even gey told),
The governments ,the churches and business empires have had plenty of years in power to help these people ,the situation has got worse not better. I never realised the USA the strongest country in the world had poverty on their doorstep , this is not new.its been around for a long time.
We have those below poverty level, those at poverty level, now those that were above poverty level are fast approaching it, it is sad, lets hope it don,t become sadder?

For every person who thinks they can simply hunt or fish to survive there will be 20 people to mug them for whatever they kill or catch including their hunting rifle, fishing poles, boats, etc. The best course of action is to get out of the country.. sorry but that is a the hrsh reality. It CAN be done without too much pain, I've done it.

Schiff is a shill. he's in the same company of millionaire/billionaire crooks like Soros, Buffet, Prechter. He also jewish which sends up a flare automatically.

I wonder about you guys sometimes when reading comments. Of course they are suggesting doom and gloom. They want you to SPEND MONEY like there is no tomorrow. That will help them kick the can down the road until the economy does truly vaporize. They want everyone to be afraid and do crazy things like buy garbage you ordinarily would not.

So continue to play into their hands. Its certainly good to have backup supplies, but an extraordinary amount will only be confiscated by the officials in times of extreme economic stress. You can't hide. And you can't win if the economy implodes. Everyone will be in the same boat regardless of how many cans of spam or cigarettes you have. Your just dreaming.

Oh, and by the way, economists have a terrible track record for predicting economic occurrences. In fact their calls are worse than stock analysts. They are all talking their book (Schiff for sure) or are working in a black box.

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[edit on 18-9-2009 by allclear]