U.S.A could take over the world if they wanted to. Could they???, page 2

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reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 09:43 PM by rogerstigers

reply to post by OzWeatherman

While I agree with you in principal, this thread didn't lay any ground rules. If we had nuked the crap out of vietnam and north korea, we could have won. We couldn't have lived with ourselves, but that's another story.

reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 09:44 PM by LOLZebra

Why are we talking about militarily only?

U.S. already owns the vast majority of the world in one way or another. Well maybe not the US but allied with the UN/IMF you have nearly the entire world in debt to the IMF in one way or another. The US just sends in its diplomats and economists to persuade the leaders to take out a giant loan they know they won't be able to repay, and viola, when they default the US takes the countries resources as collateral. Don't like it? We'll put an embargo on you and throw you in with the terrorists and let your whole country suffer.

If you haven't go get the book "Confessions of an Economic Hitman"

Or watch an interview he did on the radio on youtube (but the book is so much better

YouTube Link

reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 09:44 PM by Maddogkull

reply to post by OzWeatherman

Yeah I agree on what you are saying. But if "they" do have an agenda plan, whos to say they could not?? If conscription happened there would be alot of people in the army. With the technology of the U.S army, why couldn't they take over and not maintain the countries?? Any reasons why they could not? Social upheaval??

reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 09:53 PM by Beausant91

No the USA would not be able to take over the world as all that would happen is global destruction, for a start Russia has already started stockpiling weapons once again as for the germans they may well be in a recession but they are once again building up a new army making naval units available just outside of the falklands and if america even attempted to destroy part of the world in its attempt of world domination the entire world would probably join hands and attack jesus its only us brits who dont hate the USA we just have this sort of unexplainable link because we are both english speaking countries but what with America failing as a world super power it would be a stupid decision so the answer to that question is no the USA could not take over the world because it would be destroyed before they could complete the task.

reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 09:54 PM by stumason

reply to post by Remixtup

Oh please. Post's like this and the OP are quite clearly just ego-massaging falsehoods. Does it make you feel better at night going to bed thinking rubbish like this?

The US isn't and never will be in a position to "take over the world". No matter what fanciful weapons you think you might have, you can guarantee that someone else has got something just as funky.

In the near furture, the US's power will be considerably diminished further, not increased and you will have a multi-polar world again. If you ever wanted to take over the world, you have missed the boat by a long shot, if it was ever even docked in the first place.

The US has a hard time beating and holding ground in third world nations, let alone taking on developed nations such as Russia, China or the EU or even India. The only way the US could ever take on the world would be if you practiced total genocide, which would be immediately reciprocated upon your own people, making the whole exercise pointless.

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reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 09:57 PM by stumason

reply to post by rogerstigers

Kind of defeats the purpose of those wars though if you "nuked the crap out of them", seeing as the point was to halt the spread of communism. Killing everyone in the country would have only pushed people away from your point of view, increasing the spread rather than working against it.

It would have also certainly spelled immediate retaliatory nuclear attacks against your own countr, making the whole exercise doubly pointless.

reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 10:09 PM by rogerstigers

Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by rogerstigers

Kind of defeats the purpose of those wars though if you "nuked the crap out of them", seeing as the point was to halt the spread of communism. Killing everyone in the country would have only pushed people away from your point of view, increasing the spread rather than working against it.

It would have also certainly spelled immediate retaliatory nuclear attacks against your own countr, making the whole exercise doubly pointless.

*smirk* well, it was purely theoretical. This is evening entertainment here. I didn't expect that this thread would be taken seriously by any stretch.. just some mental gymnastics.

Still on that note, yeah, nukes, chemicals, and bio-agents would definately trigger a response that would erode ones hold on the ground... but that's what I've said all along.. we could never hold it. *shrug*

reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 10:20 PM by Maddogkull

Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by Remixtup

Oh please. Post's like this and the OP are quite clearly just ego-massaging falsehoods. Does it make you feel better at night going to bed thinking rubbish like this?

The US isn't and never will be in a position to "take over the world". No matter what fanciful weapons you think you might have, you can guarantee that someone else has got something just as funky.

In the near furture, the US's power will be considerably diminished further, not increased and you will have a multi-polar world again. If you ever wanted to take over the world, you have missed the boat by a long shot, if it was ever even docked in the first place.

The US has a hard time beating and holding ground in third world nations, let alone taking on developed nations such as Russia, China or the EU or even India. The only way the US could ever take on the world would be if you practiced total genocide, which would be immediately reciprocated upon your own people, making the whole exercise pointless.

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I from Canada buddy not the states so before you get all touchy and emotional, do a backround check

reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 10:24 PM by mpriebe81

In a word......no.

Despite our military budget, our weaponry, yada yada.....it could never happen.

We would be far outnumbered and likely outgunned on the ground, in the air, and in the sea. And we're just talking conventional warfare.

If it came down to nukes, everybody loses.

reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 10:27 PM by windowlicker80

Not a chance! The point of taking a country would be to benefit your own. You would need its population intacked and it’s army and government crippled. You could not use weapons of mass destruction as you would lose your work force, its land and its economics the whole point of it in the first place. Realistically you'd have to take it the old fashioned way by war.

Look how long Iraq has taken and there still fighting (costing America alone 600 billion dollars and around 4,300 soldiers not mentioning the cost to other coalition countries) and this is a piss pot nation who had a very small Air force and Navy and whose Army almost surrended without a fight. Compare this to Russia, China, The European Union and India.

America would not have a cat in hells chance, they could destroy the planet, any nation with a nuke could just takes one fired in anger, but they’d never be able to take it over.

reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 10:33 PM by stumason

reply to post by Maddogkull

Couldn't really give a monkey's, mate. I was primarily replying to the post that is reference in my reply. I actually gave very little consideration to your opening post, so don't flatter yourself.

reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 10:55 PM by Watcher-In-The-Shadows

Reply to post by Maddogkull

Because the central fact is conquerers are almost always eventually pushed out. Especially hated ones.

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reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 11:08 PM by Maddogkull

reply to post by stumason

haha im just playin around man.