Freemasonry : Concept of God, page 1

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The only real religious requirement in Freemasonry is the belief in a Supreme Being. We won't tell you what to call your god; we're not going to get into pissing matches over who's god is better. Keeping with the idea that an omnipotent force exists and created the universe, we refer to him by the generic term "Grand Architect of the Universe." Why? We figure God at the very minimum created existence. We're not going to waste time debating evolution or whether God has any direct hand in the life of man, or anything like that either. There are plenty of Deists who are Masons, as well as plenty of devout followers of particular faiths and beliefs.

There is no dogma or set of beliefs that Masonry imposes upon its members. It encourages those members who go to church to keep active in their churches. If you personally don't follow any organized religion, that's OK too. Nobody's going to think any less of you.

It is generally accepted in abstract terms that there is some form of afterlife. Again, no specifics. Not our place to tell you where you're going, or the letter of the law required to get you there. We'll suggest ways to be a better man, to lead a life that makes a positive mark on those around you.

I might have more specifics in a bit, but that's the gist.

Originally posted by sirnex
Thing is, the way I've come to understand the universe is that there is no higher intelligent being that created the universe for the sake of mankind.

Who said it had to be for the sake of mankind? Food for thought...

reply to post by sirnex

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Actually, it's black and white whether or not you would qualify for Freemasonry.

When asked the question:

"Do you believe in a supreme being?"

If you can answer "Yes", then it's good enough for Freemasonry.
If you have to say "No", then you can't become a Mason.

There are no questions asked as to what type of supreme being you believe. There are no questions at all as to your beliefs. You simply have to give a "Yes" or "No" answer.

So, if I forced you to give a one-word answer, would it be "Yes" or "No"?

reply to post by Saurus

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That's the thing... Supreme being as in an intelligent creative entity or can supreme being just be whatever inadequate view I have at the moment?

I don't know whether to answer yes or no at this point. In a sense, yes, but to the point that deity is without, within, and all surrounding. The universe is but it isn't, it exists but it doesn't, it was created but it wasn't created. There was a prime cause to the prime effect, but also at the same time there wasn't.

Then again, maybe I should answer no only because whatever belief I'm developing right now doesn't encompass nor have room for man made magical deities. No, because deity is not some intelligent creative entity that creates out of the whims of humanized emotions?

reply to post by sirnex

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we talk of traveling to that spiritual building in the sky, and a life after death. We do pray to the great creator, the grand architect of the universe. If you would have issues with those things, then you might not agree with freemasonry. I don't think anyone would try to steer you away from masonry because of what your beliefs would do to them, it's more about what you would feel like being part of a fraternity with those beliefs in mind. Masonry is what it is today because we are a group of like minded people. If you found yourself to not be like minded, you would not have much in common with your fellow brothers and feel left out. Please don't take offense to being told you wouldn't fit in masonry. I don't think you did, but others might see it that way. It's about what you personally would get out of it.

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