Alien Abduction in Italy: the sad story of Pier Fortunato Zanfretta, page 5
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reply posted on 17-9-2009 @ 01:26 PM by amrith777
reply to post by Unlimitedpossibilities


I agree that most people try to relate to others,and do not want to feel alone or isolated.If his story is true,then of COURSE he would probably tell someone!!Placing myself in his shoes,as you so aptly put it,I'm fairly certain I would have to tell at least a few of the most trusted people in my life.I am a very empathic person,and strive to understand others,and I also would like myself to be understood.


reply posted on 17-9-2009 @ 01:33 PM by Unlimitedpossibilities
reply to post by amrith777


Exactly. Empathy is the key.

Plus, all the people that investigated the scene probably did not keep their mouths shut about it, especially if the Carabinieri were called out for the two times mentioned in the OP.

Then the witnesses who saw the lights probably told many people. Overall, the story to me sounds legitimate.


reply posted on 17-9-2009 @ 05:02 PM by Bnmssnit
reply to post by Stormseeker
Clean Undies!! AWW dude ...go commando!! that ll learn em not to mess with you....nopun intended!!LOL....




reply posted on 17-9-2009 @ 08:21 PM by Orion65
Originally posted by Cagalli
reply to post by Orion65


I wonder what their definition of "soon" is.

Good question, Orion.


Hey there - I'm in (western) WA, too.

I think the OP had more info about the "soon" part (?).


reply posted on 17-9-2009 @ 08:23 PM by JayinAR
reply to post by Orion65




And since this happened between 1978 and 1981 have they returned "in larger numbers" yet?


I would say that depends on how they get here from the "Third Galaxy".
At least according to our understanding of physics (but somehow I feel as if these advanced species have the ability to circumvent what we understand to be physical restraints).
If they are travelling in a way that we consider conventional, meaning from point A to B linearly, they could travel as fast as they wanted, but time would only speed up for us.
From their perspective, they could leave 1978, go home and come straight back in a week, but have 100 years pass here on Earth rather easily.
This is of course considering they are able to propel themselves at the speed of light, or thereabouts.

Back to reading, just thought I would throw that in.


reply posted on 17-9-2009 @ 08:47 PM by JayinAR
reply to post by Brainiac


In regards to your 95% no comment:

Holy Jeeze, dude. That is some of the worst logic I have ever seen.
You claim that there is life throughout our Solar System but nowhere else?

You claim that because Earth is at the 6 billion mark in a 10 billion (wrong) lifespan of outward expansion that we are NECESSARILY the oldest species in the universe?!
You give that probability 95%?!

That is ridiculous. Realistically, given your numbers, there is 40% of the universe older than we are.

Considering that we only have one example to go by, our Solar System, that is studied to any sort of sufficiency to judge by and life exists here (us) one can only conclude that life is at least POSSIBLE in ALL star systems.

Meaning that, given your numbers, we would be just above average on the universal scale.

And that sounds about right to me.
Just above average. I want to meet the guys that have been around since nearly the begining!

And this also doesn't account for several other possibilities.
Evolutional advancement vs. cosmological hinderance. IE, asteroid strikes rendering a developing species extinct immediately.

If you factor THIS into the equation, you realize that a planet with life only half the length of ours could advance BEYOND OUR OWN EASILY if conditions weighed in their favor.

Back to reading, just wanted to throw that in.



reply posted on 17-9-2009 @ 08:56 PM by JayinAR
reply to post by McGinty


If they employ wormholes then the idea of calculating a time from whence they came goes out the window.
As their travel becomes instantaneous.... Unless they are traveling through a network of connected wormholes (See the movie Contact).

But even still, at that point, you can't calculate the amount of time needed to travel from point to point, as the bridges are literally instantaneous. At least insofar as I understand it.

Easier to just stick with SOL travel.


reply posted on 17-9-2009 @ 09:05 PM by JayinAR
reply to post by ArMaP


In regards to the Operator asking if "they" were human:

I would imagine that the question was being asked because the caller wasn't specifing what it was that was bothering him. The logical question when someone says "my god are they ugly" would be "what are they?"
Is it a 20' long snake? A lion? An invisible thing that this crazy caller is imagining?

So, the question is "Are you being assaulted by someone?"

Or in more specific terms: "Are "they" Humans?" "Are "they" harming you?"


reply posted on 17-9-2009 @ 09:16 PM by JayinAR
reply to post by Hack28


Why would they abduct people?
I don't know, but I look at it in the same way that I look at how we treat Native Amazonian tribes.

We have non-intervention policies. We study them. We try to do so without their awareness.

We intervene if they are sick.

Now sure, they aren't curing everyone of every illness. But perhaps they perform their medical "experiments" on people who are carrying something that can harm the whole.

We do the same thing even today.
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