Originally posted by jimmyx


when my wife retired, we had the "choice" of three health care companies, they were all with 10 to 15 dollars a month of each other for our premium payments. this is not competition. this is called a monopoly.
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THAT'S MY POINT, JIMMY.

You had the choice of three. In a country that has over 1,300 companies.

But because of the laws in place, you can't have access to them.

Thank you for proving my point.

Originally posted by jimmyx

Originally posted by jibeho
Tort reform passed in Texas in 2003 and insurance premiums went down by 30%. My uncle, a retired surgeon in Dallas, was paying 100k+ in premiums before he retired in 1990. Hell, he was named in lawsuits from patients that he never saw just because he was a department officer. He bore the full burden of his own legal fees for no reason.

Tort reform also passed in California and they realized a 40% drop in premiums.

Tort reform is especially beneficial to obstetricians who face monumental premiums due to the actions of trial lawyers like John Edwards. Tort reform will result in more doctors wanting to enter such risky practices. We need the doctors in fields where trial lawyers have chased them away.

i live in california and the 40% drop in premiums were not passed on to the consumer. please show the 40% drop to patients healthcare insurance.

question for you... if a doctors mistake put your healthy child in a coma or caused life-long medical care...would you simply accept his apology, while you go bankrupt paying for your childs care, or would you want to make sure the doctor pays for your childs medical care?

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I am by no means opposed to holding doctors accountable. However, the level of accountability has to be reasonable. Juries awarding $100 million cash verdicts is excessive. They can simply award medical care for life and send all of the bills to a trustee. This cottage industry in the US has become nothing but a free for all for ambulance chasers.

Originally posted by mikerussellus

Originally posted by jimmyx


when my wife retired, we had the "choice" of three health care companies, they were all with 10 to 15 dollars a month of each other for our premium payments. this is not competition. this is called a monopoly.
[edit on 16-9-2009 by jimmyx]

[edit on 16-9-2009 by jimmyx]

THAT'S MY POINT, JIMMY.

You had the choice of three. In a country that has over 1,300 companies.

But because of the laws in place, you can't have access to them.

Thank you for proving my point.

wow...hey mikerussellus, as soon as i finished posting my last post, my IE went crazy and opened up 53 home screens, i had to power down manually, wait 30 seconds and turn the power back on, had to do a quick clear and clean before i got back on!!....maybe chevron came in and saw something they didn't like

When I read an article about this and watched the video clip of Carter opening his big yap, I just wanted to scream. I can't understand why Carter simply can't go away, stop opening his mouth, and leave us in peace. This man is the classic crap stirrer, this racist charge is just another way for progressives to control the country. I don't dislike Obama because he's half black...I can't stand him because he's a liar, keeps company with former domestic terrorists, oh ya and he brings in crazies like Van Jones and gives morons like this cushy czar positions. I could make a bigger list but you all get my drift, lol. Never in my life have I witnessed a President who is more arrogant, deceptive, and antagonistic against those who don't agree with him. It's sad, but I have found that the only thing he has said that I agree with was his comment about Kanye West being a "jack ass". Common Mr. President...you're not our savior...just a temporary occupant in the Whitehouse...and Mr. Carter...please just go away...you damage your image more each time you talk...I understand they are making real progress on those dementia drugs for the senile...please look into that will ya?

Originally posted by mikerussellus
It is a noble ideal to make sure that everyone is happy and safe and healthy and secure.

I'm glad you see it this way. And I agree with you.

But once we open the door to mandating insurance for all, what's next? Mandating houses for all? Mandating cars for all? Mandating food for all?

What you just accomplished is an act of demagoguery known as "reductio ad absurdum". You could have added "mansions for all" to further this technique.

There is a big difference (and you must know it in your heart) between a nanny state and a state that tries to prevent starvation of people, or their death due to insufficient preventive care. I see taking care of that the mark of humans as distinct from animals. Sometimes we fail to maintain that mark.

One would have to be utterly ignorant to believe that SOME of what we see and hear isn't racially motivated. There is and has been all along a chorus of racial vitriol from a very vocal group.

However, I'm absolutely certain that all this crap originates with a confederacy of right-wing groups. They have had a very long run controlling government through their allies mostly, although not exclusively, within the GOP. This process started as early as 1981 but truly took hold from 1995 until the 2006 mid-terms. Upon the election of a Democrat as President AND a solidly Democratically controlled House and Senate they were, for the first time in a LONG time, largely disconnected from their powerbase. They have openly said that they will do whatever it takes to 'take down Obama and the Democrats' and have proven as much.

So yea, there is most definitely an element of racism in all this. But the vast majority of the attacks and their motivation are puely political warfare. It's being waged by a desperate right-wing amalgamation of groups and people trying to re-establish their control over the country and its economy. Not becuase they believe they can do a better job for the American people but simply becuase they want to be the ones looting and pilaging. They couldn't give a rat's badonka about our lot.