Democrats vs. Republicans When will it end?, page 1
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reply posted on 15-9-2009 @ 11:18 PM by jam321
reply to post by PowerSlave



How long will it be before someone comes along who gains an audience from both sides by taking policy that works or has worked from both existing parties and building something new on that, something the people can be a part of collectively on a united front.


Maybe this what we are being set up for. To allow a third party to win that would unite majority of Americans and will convince us that globalization is the only salvation.

Maybe all this bickering between left and right is just another gimmick to frustrate people into going with that third option.

There has to be a reason why left and right seldom compromise and are slowly but truly turning up the hatred for each other.



reply posted on 15-9-2009 @ 11:21 PM by rogerstigers
reply to post by jam321



Yikes. Scary thought because it would work. Bring in someone who claims no affiliation.. He's the hero able to do anything because he's not on either side.

Yes, that is probably the only way that this would end, but still a risky move...*shrug*


reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 12:06 AM by Southern Guardian
reply to post by PowerSlave



When will it end? Is this a rhetorical question? Why do you think it will end?

This isnt only about party lines as so many blame people for. Sure I agree there is bias and a lack of knowledge over the choices out there during election period but ultimately people have strong opinions and like wise they are going to conflict with others. These differences are ideological, and while these daily arguments may get out of hand sometimes people have differences, and likewise its their right and their choice.

So long as we celebrate the diversity in beliefs and opinions in this country there will always be differences. What, you want everybody to drop their opinions and follow Ron Paul? or libertarianism because the other two parties and political leaders are too dominating? isnt that exactly what you would oppose? Everybody following the ideology of one member that claims the other ideologies are "fighting too much"? Sure, I tend to bait on people regarding party lines and ideology, but I certainly wouldnt advocate that "everybody follow one belief" because certainly we dont want a clone society.

Day in and day out we get the same people interrupting discussion of matters we all hold important to yet again dump down our throats another "right-left dem-repub" conspiracy meanwhile advocating everybody to follow their Ron Pauls or to magically stop fighting and agree on one thing.... like sheep. Makes sense.

Yes this is the United states, but it would not be the United states without our differences along with our nationalism.

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reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 01:23 AM by mental modulator
Do you want to understand it or are you just bashing it???

For one I am taking sides because I regard blatant hypocrisy like I do black widows.

I will not sit around and watch a bunch of people throw the same turds they crapped in the last decade...

This anti Obama sentiment may be well founded, but the delivery system being used to meet a political objective is disgusting and psychotic.

The end game will be GOP back in the seat doing the same ol same ol GOP style, the "constitution" will be forgotten and it will back to play time with the Snufflupagus.
This same vitriol will be turned around to defend the same stuff these "patriots" are "fighting" against now.

Half of the nation being lead by one news outlet - they go to war, they subvert the constitution, increase the government!

BUT now,,,, now they are HEALED!

and Bobby Jindal will save us!!!

I have many bones to pick with Obama, he has not kept to some of his rhetoric and supports some of this crap below -

However this putrid conservative brainwashing is more disgusting for me - Patriot act, IRAQ, 9/11, $6.50 gas, KATRINA, JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, $2.2 trillion missing the day before 9/11, XE. Haliburton, Gitmo, FISA, three tier justice system, WMD, THE ECONOMY DIEING...

Obama would have to be more insidious than Satan's diarrhea to out shine this great failure pile of history.


All thanks to you "PATRIOTS" who threw your everything behind GEORGE II







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reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 01:54 AM by Slash
reply to post by mental modulator



Yeah I guess, kinda like Yin and Yang.
I'm just tired of all the labeling and fighting.


reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 10:47 AM by jam321
reply to post by Southern Guardian



What on earth are you talking about? You really think everybody is going to agree on one third party? Let me guess, you want them to vote for your third party right? Yes wait to go to united the nation, by promoting your ideological biasness while blaming others.


Dang SG, go take you a smoke break and relax. I responded to a quote by the op and included the word "maybe" throughout my post.

I have no third party or ideological biasness . It was simply a thought about how maybe we were being set up.


reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 01:06 PM by PowerSlave
reply to post by Southern Guardian





So long as we celebrate the diversity in beliefs and opinions in this country there will always be differences.


I don't see a "celebration" of anything. Certainly not diversity, that in itself is being used to divide.



What, you want everybody to drop their opinions and follow Ron Paul? or libertarianism because the other two parties and political leaders are too dominating?


I never mentioned Ron Paul, besides he is still a republican is he not?
I do think additional options of a third or fourth party is a good start. However, additional parties would certainly need "face" time to gain acceptance and credibility.

So long as the MSM pushes only the dem or rep parties, any third option will have a very tough time.

I don't and never would suggest that everyone should or would follow one single party, that would be virtually impossible. But I think it is very possible to add other options.

I only wanted to start a discussion on the potential political future of the US. It is difficult convince oneself that things are improving and that the 2 current parties are getting along just fine. I see quite the opposite, and I also see the solutions coming from the coutries people and not its current leaders.




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