Originally posted by nunya 13
reply to post by silent thunder
LOL...sounds a lot like how men generally are. I don't mean that in a negative way at all. But have you ever noticed that a lot of men think they
are the cream of the crop to the point of approaching beautiful women in a bar/club even though they are less than attractive?
Like I said, I don't mean this negatively, in fact, I envy how most men are very confident in themselves compared to most women who have a low self
esteem and are insecure in their looks.
I think it's part of the effects of testosterone though. Maybe it's a side effect of the synthetic hormones in our food and birth control.
These are all just assumptions on my part, btw.
edit to add:
Found this from
Despite testosterone's explosive reputation, there's no solid evidence that it causes aggression or violence. On the contrary, heightened
testosterone is often associated with self-confidence and social success. Testosterone levels typically increase to ready us for a challenge, whether
it's a football game or a chess match. Testosterone also rises after a victory, causing an increase in confidence that often leads to even more
victories, the so-called winner effect. Who would want less of a hormone like that?
So I wonder if an over abundance in men and an imbalance in women can contribute to inflated egos.
[edit on 24-9-2009 by nunya 13]
Women do this very conduct themselves. They just do it in a woman type way. They also learn this pattern of conduct at younger ages than do
I remember overhearing a conversation between two young females about men. They were about 18 or 19 years old.
One female told the other that when she met a new guy she looked right into his eyes to see if he could make eye contact....then she looked to see
what kind of car he drove.
It told me alot about her ego and value system at that young age.
What it told me was that she was looking into "His" potential to see if he was worth her time to tap into it and corral it to and for her
What never came up in the conversation was what she was offering for this potential. What skills, talents, and or items of real intrinsic value she
had to offer in the marketplace for a male defaulting all this of his potential over to her??
Women do this often...they just do it in a more subtle manner..but it is often lying and deceiving themselves..and also the males in this. I say this
because of the implicitness of it..not its explicitness.
The only difference is that as women get older they often get much more skilled at the presentation/method.
Most males do not get courses in this type of thinking. They should. Many of them desperately need the knowledge.
It would prevent alot of them from making dumb mistakes.
As to men or males trying out. I don't agree with a lot of this stuff. Ever noticed male guppies or mollies in a tank coming up to the females and
wagging their tails to get female attention. Sort of like "trying out " for a baseball team. I call this "Try outs." They come up and wag their
tails to get attention. The female mollies or guppies are wondering when someone is going to put food in the tank. Not very bright of many of the
Somehow a lot of males and females think this is the only game in town. It is not. It is also very pubescent at any age.
A lot of women are overly obsessed with appearance because they believe it raises their value in the marketplace..especially against the
Males are stupid enough to think that beauty is a measure of real value. It is not. It is often very overpriced and high maintenance compared to the
risks one will have to take to maintain such thinking and values on the part of the female...or the female and children both.
Many women and females tend to think that beauty values are transferable into all kinds of goods and services at no risk or hardship to them with no
consideration for the male who must risk to get or maintain them. Not a smart trade off on the part of the male. He will never experience Peace in his
life...for all this...only Piece. Piece is a poor substitute for Peace as many thinking males have come to realize.
There are a lot of females/women out here who like to think they are sitting on the only one in town. A whole genre of institutions/propaganda are out
here catering to this philosophy/religion.
It is very easy to think one is mature when ones expectations and beliefs ..especially in difficult times and situations are the primary
responsibility of someone else. This is false maturity.
When you find males like this..look closely at who or what is the primary influence in their lives when they were being raised. With most of them it
was either a woman or a television/movie set...or both. And possibly peer group raised on more of the same. I find many of these males to be feminine.
They can dress like males, talk like what many think are males but when the going gets rough..they are like women...looking for someone else to get
going for them and the kids.
The problem here nunya 13 is that there is a pseudo system here in play which has been institutionalized to the point where both sexes think this is
the only game in town and both don't realize it is an ersatz system. It is the appearance of value but offers no value...male or female. When the
good times are over there is nothing but dirt and baggage remaining. They are busy consuming each other. Not complimenting each other.
Im going to have to say yes here. My cousin who is 15 always has extensions in her hair. She took them out last night and cried for two
hours because her natural hair is short and feels like nobody will like her unless she has long hair.
Its sad to these girls think they have to be some crazy image they made up in there mind to be liked. But its the real deal, and alot of teens are
dealing with it. Hopefully things change.
LOL LOL LOL. I went through a number of posts here on ATS/BTS where a number of women got irate at me for stating that women/females were just as
physical if not more so than most men could even conceive.
Your sister here is illustrating the point quite well. Women/females understand colours, cut, shape, presentation...etc etc etc..far more clearly
directly and indirectly as compare to the male and male psyche. They learn this at much younger ages as well. Women understand their physicalness in
the marketplace of beauty values and thinking in competition against other women as a tool to raise their value/competition potential.
In physicalness women/females also understand RISK from a much different perspective than does the average male as well as how to get RISK to work
for them to their ease and betterment...with them limiting their RISK as a byproduct of this understanding. Sometimes this is also called STATUS.
GEtting a male to take RISKS for them is sometimes called STATUS.
Loss of beauty potential is loss of status, loss of competition potential,loss of place in the primordal pecking order.