OP forgot "stupid", "apathetic", "fat", "mcdonalds-eating, walmart-shopping while hating on the Chinese hypocritical racist gumless redneck buffoons who are a bunch of chattle."

[edit on 15-9-2009 by Archon_Adept]

Originally posted by PrisonerOfSociety

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
OK Mr. Smarty pants,

What do you suggest?

The answer is very simple; get rid of centralised government. Why should ~600 people in congress rule over 600 million people. They are corrupt to the core, fat cats.

Empower each state with their own governance, budgets and fiscal policy.

Each state would then evolve as a self-fulfilling microcosm and other states will follow any other states who do better in a comparative league table, promoting healthy competition and continual growth benefiting local citizens.

Some bastard in Washington has no right to tell a farmer how to milk his cows in Arkansas, for example.

In summary: GET RID OF CENTRALISED G'MENT

The US Constitution already describes limited government where the States make most of the rules. The Feds are just to take care of the international treaties, military, post office and inter-state business transactions. Feds are the 'Conductor' of the States, setting fair rules. The Feds instead took all of the power, screw the States. We just got to get rid of the Feds and all laws enacted since FDR or convert them from government control to privately controlled. The government is not suppose to run business, but purchase from business that compete for the government work.

Nice thread man,

I almost posted a 15 page response on here which I'm sure you wouldn't have liked. Then I read your post.... lol

But you are right - absolutely.

It is ever more evident every time I come back to the states on leave from either a deployment or another country. Especially and I say - ESPECIALLY - the ones who live in and around major cities. All I can say is ......wow......

There needs to be a mass wake up or a culling. One of the two and soon.

Star and flag for you, friend.

Originally posted by PrisonerOfSociety

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
OK Mr. Smarty pants,

What do you suggest?

The answer is very simple; get rid of centralised government. Why should ~600 people in congress rule over 600 million people. They are corrupt to the core, fat cats.

Empower each state with their own governance, budgets and fiscal policy.

Works for me.

So Cal would turn into an Amsterdam of the West and rake in billions.

Back during the Viet Nam war protests, the simpering wimps and spineless ball-less males showed what this nation was coming to. They blubbered and cried to the draft boards about how they couldn't possibly go to war, because they were all about touchy-feelings of warm fuzzies, flowers, making love, and doing pot, hash, LSD, while guzzling gallons of Ripple or Boone's farm wine!

They just couldn't cut off their beautiful long long hair, and become Baby-Killers!

Those that did join, or were drafted, increasingly found that the nation was ungrateful, cynical, hateful and did not support their efforts.

Many young men saw their buddies slaughtered, and suffered Post Traumatic Stress, only to be thrown to the gutter once they came home to protesters who greeted them home like returning lepers. Today, we have men who are in a situation that is more awful than their earlier comrades in arms. The enemy today, is unseen, hidden, and uses ambush techniques and I.E.D.'s to kill from a distance. It is very hard to kill an enemy who blends into the civilian populace.

Today, we have the Hollywood P.C. set of Metro-sexual buffoons , who think they have a political agenda, and a right to speak their foul liberalism views protesting the current battles against an insidious enemy that is out to kill them. More flowers, apologizing, with hugs and kisses for a enemy that's slithering in under our borders. However, when someone is shot, they crap and piss themselves in fear, and scream bloody hell for help.

I know for a fact, you could slap the face of three quarters of the young men and women today, and they wouldn't lift a finger to defend themselves. Their friends would all stand around with their cells taking pictures, while cowering in fear, and crying in each others arms...nothing else.

It is these morons, who think that, taking away the 2nd Amendment would make everything alright, and no one would hurt anybody again! Many of the sports jocks from high school who think they are " bonafide" males, will roust around another school mate, but, wouldn't run to aide a female being raped in an alley!

It takes wherewithal and initiative to out fox the P.C. media of today. If you sit on your ass gobbling down the mindless manna of misinformation and outright mindless ignorance being spewed by corporate owned media, then you'll become another one of the many millions of dumbbells who suck their thumbs pacifying themselves, while watching an endless cavalcade of stupidity on the tube. Don't be one of them. Fight back. Educate yourself with facts and history, and then you'll be armed against an insurgency of the booboise.

I am accused of being a old curmudgeon and ornery fart, who doesn't tolerate much. Well, they'd be right! Until I see positive changes that are for the better, I will only be more nasty with my opines. The enemies who hate us, count on Americans being a bunch of weak willed, spineless, and yes...ball-less twits who won't ordinarily stand up for themselves. Since they elect politicians who say they are like them, the cesspool of useless decision makers just deepens. The enemy wrings his hands in glee...

Stupid politically correct slogans, and suave imagery don't fool me for one minute. I can usually read a mans character quickly. Women are a little more difficult. So far, most of the misrepresenting representatives that have managed to lie their way into political office haven't amounted to a pile of dung. The voters have proven themselves to be clueless dolts in general, and easily sold a "Pig in Poke" with or without lip stick!

I will fight to the bitter end, and then they can lay my battered and bullet ridden corpse in the ground ass end up, and the world can kiss it for eternity.

I wish the world were a different place too, but it isn't, so face reality and deal with it. Pretty pleases and butterfly kisses won't make it go away!

Be a warrior, not a wuss! Make the enemy afraid, very afraid!

AWESOME THREAD!!! (S&F)

Ive been saying this a lot more lately,

Deny ignorance, ASK questions!!!

I am an American/san marino citizen, i traveled to europe, and well when i went, their view of Americans are what you just described.

The people really need to wake up and break away from this live in fear, head in sand mentality.

I Read your opening and the first two paragraphs....then yawned.

I expect you will be first on the front lines to face the ignorant, lazy, gutless, coward Americans that live in fear if it comes down to a fight?

Only the most powerful nation the world has ever known, with the most advanced and powerful military machine ever known.....nothing to be afraid of....if you are a Klingon.......Mr. Spock.

BTW: I liked Spock's character. He was less caustic and less bitter than you portray yourself to be.

Sorry if you feel I am attacking you....I'm really not.....I just think you could post a better thread without insulting a whole nation and promulgating hate and discontent

IMHO of course. Take it for what it's worth I guess. No harm intended here.

Have a nice day.

[edit on 15/9/09 by John Matrix]

Dont forget materialistic and greedy,
and we obviously dont know what a budget is!

Or the meaning of living within our means or,...
saving for the inevitable rainy day.

Or, how to drive without endangering ourselves and others.
Or.....

it seems americans even hate americans.
puts a perspective on which side is winning.

watch glenn beck ???

a) do the breakdancing move "the flare" on a giant sheet of sandpaper
b) practice repeatedly inserting a catheter into myself
c) tie myself down while neighborhood children repeatedly hit me with mallets in my funny bones
d) all of the above

or ...

e) watch glenn beck

my choice?
d

Originally posted by reasonable

Originally posted by Sky watcher
We are a giant awakening from its slumber, Be patient.

I hate to burst your bubble, but physiologically this simply is not possible. The general population is HIGHLY medicated. The tap water contains a vicious cocktail of chemicals and pharmaceuticals, don't even get me started on the food supply. Everyone there is subjected to this cocktail to a point they physiologically can not be anything other than a tired, fat, depressed sheep. So if you think these people are going to wake up and do anything you will be waiting a loooooong time.

OH! this post deserves a topic of its own,

Thank you, is this what is wrong with our leaders too?

I have worried about this for a long time.

Originally posted by groingrinder
Come here monkey!!

We need to clean house in Washington and in each State. We need to toss every Democrat and Republican who holds political office.

Yuppers, now how you gonna reach the die hard democrats and republicans,?