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FDA approves swine flu vaccine

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posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 01:39 PM
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The Food and Drug Administration approved the new swine flu vaccine Tuesday, a long-anticipated step as the government works to get vaccinations underway next month.

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius announced the vaccine's approval to Congress — and says she hopes to get the first limited supplies distributed early in October.


From this article: FDA approves swine flu vaccine

I must admit, this makes me a bit less critical of the vaccine. I believe the FDA is a credible agency (however I may be wrong). I just wonder if adequate testing has taken place. It seems they may have been rushed to get the vaccine out.

It was cleard by 4 companies

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has cleared vaccines from Sanofi-Aventis SA, CSL Ltd, Medimmune and Novartis AG to help prevent the H1N1 strain of influenza

U.S. clears H1N1 vaccine from four companies

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posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 01:41 PM
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They are not.

The FDA are the ones who approved the use of Floride in the water supply, the ones who want to implement Codex Alimentarus among other things.

Just another government agency playing it's part.

Here's an interesting website which gives some nice information about the FDA and fluoride.

This is the stuff they have approved for bottled water, yet is listed as a prescription drug, not a mineral.

Fluoride

Some of the findings include:


Fluoridation is not about "children's teeth". Rather, it is about industry ridding itself of crude hazardous waste products, silicofluorides, for a profit. Silicofluorides are 85 times more toxic than naturally-occurring calcium fluoride.

Fluoride is more toxic than lead and like lead in minute doses, accumulates in and can be damaging to brain/mind development of children, producing abnormal behavior in animals and reducing IQ in humans, especially in conjunction with deficiencies of key nutrients such as calcium, iodine and vitamins. It can also contribute to many disease processes. Because it is almost as toxic as arsenic, fluoride's ability to play havoc in the human body should surprise no one.

There is as much, or more, dental decay in fluoridated communities as there is in the non-fluoridated areas; however, the dental costs are higher in fluoridated communities due to dental fluorosis. Drinking fluoridated water may delay decay, but it does not prevent it.

Dental fluorosis is not simply a "cosmetic effect". Dental fluorosis is the first visible sign of fluoride poisoning. Today there is an increased prevalence of dental fluorosis, ranging from about 15% to 65% in fluoridated areas and 5% to 40% in non-fluoridated areas in North America.

Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) scientists, after studying all the evidence, concluded that the public water supply should not be used "as a vehicle for disseminating this toxic and prophylactically useless ... substance."

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) states that fluoride is not a mineral nutrient; it is a prescription drug. Every prescription drug has side-effects, including fluoride. Fluoride has never received FDA approval and does not meet the legal requirements of safety and effectiveness necessary for such approval. Once this drug is put in the water there is no control over individual dosage.

The American Dental Association supplement schedule shows that fluoride prescription drugs should not be given to infants under 6 months of age. One cup of water per day for children age 6 months to 3 years matches the supplement controlled dose. Therefore, in fluoridated areas, most children under 3 are getting an overdose of this drug via their drinking water, yet the ADA continues to recommend fluoridation.
The widespread and uncontrolled use of fluoride in our water, dental products, and foods and beverages (grown and processed in fluoridated communities), is causing pervasive over-exposure to fluoride in the U.S. population. Most developed countries have rejected, stopped, or banned fluoridation because there is no margin of safety.

Fluoride is not just "one of forty chemicals used to treat water". It is the only chemical added to public drinking water to treat individuals, rather than the water. It is mass medication. This website explains why a good number of leading scientists, doctors, and some dentists are avidly opposed to putting fluoride in our water supply. It also shows that this controversy has existed in the scientific field from the onset.


~Keeper

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posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 01:49 PM
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No offense, but the FDA is JOKE! They have been found to be quite corrupt, particularly in regards to food products being allowed to falsely advertise that they have 0 Trans Fat, when it fact they have 0.5.

They have also been proven to be in bed with evil companies such as Monsanto.

I would highly recommend that you check out this documentary. I was in attendance at its premier two months ago.






posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 01:51 PM
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I think the FDA approving the h1n1 vaccine was a foregone conclusion among ATS members a few months ago. Seems they were correct.



posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 01:55 PM
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I stand corrected. I really haven't done much research into the FDA. I guess we will have to wait and see whether or not this vaccine has adverse effects.

-E-



posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 01:59 PM
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I don't trust any product which is released to the public through companies whose own employees won't take.

If the people who manufactured the Vaccine refuse to take it, what does that tell you? There is obviously something very wrong with it.

I could be wrong, which is why we have a waiting game now.

~Keeper



posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 01:59 PM
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I used to trust them too until I looked into what they have done.

I would have been completely shocked if this vaccine would have been stopped by the FDA to be honest. There is a plan behind this virus. I believe it to be engineered for a purpose.

It will be interesting to see what happens the coming month.


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posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 02:02 PM
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What does this even matter?

If the vaccine does end up hurting or killing people the vaccine makers and the FDA have no liability whatsoever. If you are injured from this vaccine you have no recourse.

For example,...I want to sell you a car from my lot. The government has ruled that if my cars aren't safe I am immune from liability. I promise you the cars are safe, though. Even AAA has certified that my cars are safe. You decide to buy one, you drive it off the lot, the brakes fail and you hit a tree, injuring yourself. What good is the AAA rating in the end? You are powerless to get compensation from me or take me to court and I can sell as many unsafe cars as I want.

Don't fall for this FDA approval because it doesn't mean anything.

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posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 02:12 PM
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Yes and that really the biggest WTF for the whole thing. Why do they have to be shielded from liability for a safe product in this case, with no recourse whatsoever?

Based upon my information so far, that's really the nail in the coffin for me to ever consider allowing the vaccine to contact me. It smells foul no matter what the real intentions are. They've made them irrelevant.



posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 02:25 PM
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FDA has its problems, it will never really stand up against big corporations and inner political games are not helping of course. But if it did not approve this vaccine , it could never reach US (and a lot of others) market. Now this approval is based on research (or actually several of those) done by manufacturer on efficiency of this vaccine vs its side effects. So you can sue the manufacturer if there is a damage, a lot of firms were succesfully sued, even big ones. Some crashed as a result. So it is not 100 percent corruption proof,by far. But it is not useless and i certainly do not see it as harmful.
By the way, i do not plan to use this vaccine. Just like any other flu vaccine. Never took one and never will unless forced by workplace because i do not consider flu a serious enough threat. Nor do i convince anyone to take it, naturally. Simply there is no need to make one situation into totally different one. I do not know how about US, but here almost all newborn get several vaccines. If someone wanted to introduce some toxin in general population, this would be much more efficient.



posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 02:29 PM
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The FDA did what they were told to do.

The approval would have come either way. If they had balked - and they won't because the political appointees who make up their leadership are all corporate shills - DHS would have gotten authorization to use it as an unapproved medical treatment.

The FDA approves "unapproved" stuff for the industry all the time. They just use the excuse that some agency or other has declared an emergency or critical situation.

Example: www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by EnlightenUp
reply to post by METACOMET
 


Yes and that really the biggest WTF for the whole thing. Why do they have to be shielded from liability for a safe product in this case, with no recourse whatsoever?

Based upon my information so far, that's really the nail in the coffin for me to ever consider allowing the vaccine to contact me. It smells foul no matter what the real intentions are. They've made them irrelevant.


its very simple actually.

big pharm like any other corp wants to avoid expensive lawsuits. a large class action lawsuit can put a giant corporation out of business.

so why should pharm agree to speed up testing and distribution of a vaccine ? they put themselves at severe risk of legal action.

vaccines take years to test and work out issues. a control group can show no adverse reactions but this has to be repeated hundreds of times. sample size means its easy to miss 1 in 100,000 people having a bad reaction.

and that 1 in 100,000 is likely to sue because in this country its always someone else fault. forget an underlying condition or just plain bad genetics. if 1 person out of a million gets a nose bleed it leads to a million dollar settlement.

so why should the pharms make a vaccine when it will get them sued ? the govt had to step in and offer legal immunity so the pharms would bother to make the vaccine.

its not some great conspiracy theory that proves nefarious pharm plot. its simply an incentive to get pharm to make the vaccine under quicker than normal conditions.

oh and fyi to those that say the vaccine is dangerous...in the usa there isnt any squalene or other adjuvants in there. so stop with the fear mongering.

not that it will, 500 more posts will appear claiming squalene will kill us desspite the fact that it wont even be in US vaccines



posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 02:40 PM
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To update:

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has cleared vaccines from Sanofi-Aventis SA, CSL Ltd, Medimmune and Novartis AG to help prevent the H1N1 strain of influenza

U.S. clears H1N1 vaccine from four companies

I will update the Op also

-E-



posted on Sep, 15 2009 @ 03:15 PM
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I understand why big pharma has immunity, thank you for explaining. However, the explanation does not negate the fact that if you are hurt from the vaccine you cannot hold them responsible.


its simply an incentive to get pharm to make the vaccine under quicker than normal conditions.

Exactly. Mess up a little in the name of expediency, and we will look the other way.

Squalene is not approved for use in the united states. However, your statement about squalene not being present in vaccines in the US is not true.
www.anthrax.mil...
community.seattletimes.nwsource.com...
GlaxoSmithKline says there is squalene in their avian flu vaccine which is in the US stockpile.
208.69.231.70...
But hey, why stop at squalene? What about all the other good stuff?
Live Virus, Embryos, alpha-tocopherol, aluminum, AS03, Daronrix, disodium phosphate, formaldehyde,magnesium chloride, octoxynol 10, polysorbate 80, potassium chloride, potassium dihydrogen phosphate, sodium chloride, sodium deoxycholate, thiomersal



posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 08:04 PM
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As a reader of ATS, an evaluation of the swine flu was made that shook me to the core.

In short...the G-20 meeting is to be used for a transfer of weaponized swine flu/vaccine........!!

First.... google g-20 security..... a de facto martial law.
This led me to ask why Pittsburgh......why not Las Vegas....?? At least the G-20 could drop a few billion $ on the casino's there.....LOL

Second......google G-20 summit ...up come UPMC
www.upmc.com ...

"An integrated global health enterprise"

UPMC IS the HQ for the media at this meeting.....

Third....see Medical Milestones.....home of Jonas Salk, organ transplants, and psychiatry, and swine flu researcher Don Burke
Fourth ....timing......at the very beginning of Flu season..

Question....is UPMC Media Center the transfer point into or out of
for weaponized swine flu vaccine through diplomatic pouches for a worldwide pandemic, or a 911 type biowarfare attack on the USA.

Keep in mind that a 1% reduction in the US population, (which 4% of the world utilizes 25% of the world's oil) could reduce the world oil consumption by 10%!!! This would setback the alt-energy field, and free up oil for the BRIC counties.

Also, if developed in a deep abandoned Pittsburgh coal mine, could be easily contained with a few explosives.

Also, a major supplier of the swine flu vaccine to the US, Novartis, is HQ in the same city as the BIS (Bank of International Settlements... www.bis.org... )

Thoughts....we have motive, resources, and timing....

Please seriously consider this posting as we only have a week or so left to handle this....
.
First public posting of this on ATS....
eBolivar




posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 08:47 PM
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The goverment has ordered 190 million swine flu vaccine doses. There are 350 million people in the USA. By doing simple math it is obvious that this will not be mandatory for all the population.

All these swine flu threads are ridiculous.



posted on Sep, 17 2009 @ 09:22 PM
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. . . and says she hopes to get the first limited supplies distributed early in October.


October 2009 seems to be a very busy month.

Stay safe, people!



posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 09:46 AM
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The globalist elite now want to condition American citizens further an d further into receiving the swine flu jab.

I'm not taking it!



posted on Sep, 18 2009 @ 12:07 PM
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Since I cant yet create my own thread, i figured I should just tack this link on here.

The Therapeutic Goods Administration in Australia has stated that the swine flu vaccine that has been ordered is not yet deemed safe for children, and they will continue to test it for the next two months or so.

The Australian


SWINE flu is killing children at twice the rate of seasonal flu, but under-10s will have to wait at least two months for the vaccine that is soon to be offered to every Australian adult in the nation's biggest immunisation scheme.

Health Minister Nicola Roxon yesterday announced that the first swine flu jabs would be given to adults from September 30. Health workers, indigenous people, pregnant women and people with underlying medical conditions such as asthma, cancer, HIV, heart disease, diabetes, chronic kidney failure and obesity would be given priority.

The medical watchdog, the Therapeutic Goods Administration, has ruled that a single dose of the CSL vaccine for the H1N1 virus is safe and effective in preventing swine flu infections among adults.

But a vaccine for children will not be available until at least November. Clinical trials are now being carried out on 400 children nationally.


edited for typo


[edit on 18-9-2009 by beta.services]



posted on Sep, 20 2009 @ 08:42 AM
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They could approve it all they want! its us to the ppl that should not go and get it no matter t what cost!



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