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Topic started on 15-9-2009 @ 01:39 PM by MysterE
The Food and Drug Administration approved the new swine flu vaccine Tuesday, a long-anticipated step as the government works to get vaccinations underway next month.

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius announced the vaccine's approval to Congress — and says she hopes to get the first limited supplies distributed early in October.


From this article:
FDA approves swine flu vaccine

I must admit, this makes me a bit less critical of the vaccine. I believe the FDA is a credible agency (however I may be wrong). I just wonder if adequate testing has taken place. It seems they may have been rushed to get the vaccine out.

It was cleard by 4 companies
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has cleared vaccines from Sanofi-Aventis SA, CSL Ltd, Medimmune and Novartis AG to help prevent the H1N1 strain of influenza

U.S. clears H1N1 vaccine from four companies

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reply posted on 15-9-2009 @ 01:41 PM by tothetenthpower
They are not.

The FDA are the ones who approved the use of Floride in the water supply, the ones who want to implement Codex Alimentarus among other things.

Just another government agency playing it's part.

Here's an interesting website which gives some nice information about the FDA and fluoride.

This is the stuff they have approved for bottled water, yet is listed as a prescription drug, not a mineral.

Fluoride

Some of the findings include:

Fluoridation is not about "children's teeth". Rather, it is about industry ridding itself of crude hazardous waste products, silicofluorides, for a profit. Silicofluorides are 85 times more toxic than naturally-occurring calcium fluoride.

Fluoride is more toxic than lead and like lead in minute doses, accumulates in and can be damaging to brain/mind development of children, producing abnormal behavior in animals and reducing IQ in humans, especially in conjunction with deficiencies of key nutrients such as calcium, iodine and vitamins. It can also contribute to many disease processes. Because it is almost as toxic as arsenic, fluoride's ability to play havoc in the human body should surprise no one.

There is as much, or more, dental decay in fluoridated communities as there is in the non-fluoridated areas; however, the dental costs are higher in fluoridated communities due to dental fluorosis. Drinking fluoridated water may delay decay, but it does not prevent it.

Dental fluorosis is not simply a "cosmetic effect". Dental fluorosis is the first visible sign of fluoride poisoning. Today there is an increased prevalence of dental fluorosis, ranging from about 15% to 65% in fluoridated areas and 5% to 40% in non-fluoridated areas in North America.

Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) scientists, after studying all the evidence, concluded that the public water supply should not be used "as a vehicle for disseminating this toxic and prophylactically useless ... substance."

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) states that fluoride is not a mineral nutrient; it is a prescription drug. Every prescription drug has side-effects, including fluoride. Fluoride has never received FDA approval and does not meet the legal requirements of safety and effectiveness necessary for such approval. Once this drug is put in the water there is no control over individual dosage.

The American Dental Association supplement schedule shows that fluoride prescription drugs should not be given to infants under 6 months of age. One cup of water per day for children age 6 months to 3 years matches the supplement controlled dose. Therefore, in fluoridated areas, most children under 3 are getting an overdose of this drug via their drinking water, yet the ADA continues to recommend fluoridation.
The widespread and uncontrolled use of fluoride in our water, dental products, and foods and beverages (grown and processed in fluoridated communities), is causing pervasive over-exposure to fluoride in the U.S. population. Most developed countries have rejected, stopped, or banned fluoridation because there is no margin of safety.

Fluoride is not just "one of forty chemicals used to treat water". It is the only chemical added to public drinking water to treat individuals, rather than the water. It is mass medication. This website explains why a good number of leading scientists, doctors, and some dentists are avidly opposed to putting fluoride in our water supply. It also shows that this controversy has existed in the scientific field from the onset.


~Keeper

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reply posted on 15-9-2009 @ 01:49 PM by OnTheFelt
reply to post by MysterE



No offense, but the FDA is JOKE! They have been found to be quite corrupt, particularly in regards to food products being allowed to falsely advertise that they have 0 Trans Fat, when it fact they have 0.5.

They have also been proven to be in bed with evil companies such as Monsanto.

I would highly recommend that you check out this documentary. I was in attendance at its premier two months ago.







reply posted on 15-9-2009 @ 01:59 PM by tothetenthpower
reply to post by MysterE



I don't trust any product which is released to the public through companies whose own employees won't take.

If the people who manufactured the Vaccine refuse to take it, what does that tell you? There is obviously something very wrong with it.

I could be wrong, which is why we have a waiting game now.

~Keeper


reply posted on 15-9-2009 @ 01:59 PM by Copernicus
reply to post by MysterE



I used to trust them too until I looked into what they have done.

I would have been completely shocked if this vaccine would have been stopped by the FDA to be honest. There is a plan behind this virus. I believe it to be engineered for a purpose.

It will be interesting to see what happens the coming month.


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reply posted on 15-9-2009 @ 02:12 PM by EnlightenUp
reply to post by METACOMET



Yes and that really the biggest WTF for the whole thing. Why do they have to be shielded from liability for a safe product in this case, with no recourse whatsoever?

Based upon my information so far, that's really the nail in the coffin for me to ever consider allowing the vaccine to contact me. It smells foul no matter what the real intentions are. They've made them irrelevant.


reply posted on 15-9-2009 @ 02:33 PM by admriker444
Originally posted by EnlightenUp
reply to
post by METACOMET



Yes and that really the biggest WTF for the whole thing. Why do they have to be shielded from liability for a safe product in this case, with no recourse whatsoever?

Based upon my information so far, that's really the nail in the coffin for me to ever consider allowing the vaccine to contact me. It smells foul no matter what the real intentions are. They've made them irrelevant.


its very simple actually.

big pharm like any other corp wants to avoid expensive lawsuits. a large class action lawsuit can put a giant corporation out of business.

so why should pharm agree to speed up testing and distribution of a vaccine ? they put themselves at severe risk of legal action.

vaccines take years to test and work out issues. a control group can show no adverse reactions but this has to be repeated hundreds of times. sample size means its easy to miss 1 in 100,000 people having a bad reaction.

and that 1 in 100,000 is likely to sue because in this country its always someone else fault. forget an underlying condition or just plain bad genetics. if 1 person out of a million gets a nose bleed it leads to a million dollar settlement.

so why should the pharms make a vaccine when it will get them sued ? the govt had to step in and offer legal immunity so the pharms would bother to make the vaccine.

its not some great conspiracy theory that proves nefarious pharm plot. its simply an incentive to get pharm to make the vaccine under quicker than normal conditions.

oh and fyi to those that say the vaccine is dangerous...in the usa there isnt any squalene or other adjuvants in there. so stop with the fear mongering.

not that it will, 500 more posts will appear claiming squalene will kill us desspite the fact that it wont even be in US vaccines



reply posted on 15-9-2009 @ 03:15 PM by METACOMET
reply to post by admriker444


I understand why big pharma has immunity, thank you for explaining. However, the explanation does not negate the fact that if you are hurt from the vaccine you cannot hold them responsible.

its simply an incentive to get pharm to make the vaccine under quicker than normal conditions.

Exactly. Mess up a little in the name of expediency, and we will look the other way.

Squalene is not approved for use in the united states. However, your statement about squalene not being present in vaccines in the US is not true.
www.anthrax.mil...
community.seattletimes.nwsource.com...
GlaxoSmithKline says there is squalene in their avian flu vaccine which is in the US stockpile.
208.69.231.70...
But hey, why stop at squalene? What about all the other good stuff?
Live Virus, Embryos, alpha-tocopherol, aluminum, AS03, Daronrix, disodium phosphate, formaldehyde,magnesium chloride, octoxynol 10, polysorbate 80, potassium chloride, potassium dihydrogen phosphate, sodium chloride, sodium deoxycholate, thiomersal


reply posted on 17-9-2009 @ 08:04 PM by eBolivar
As a reader of ATS, an evaluation of the swine flu was made that shook me to the core.

In short...the G-20 meeting is to be used for a transfer of weaponized swine flu/vaccine........!!

First.... google g-20 security..... a de facto martial law.
This led me to ask why Pittsburgh......why not Las Vegas....?? At least the G-20 could drop a few billion $ on the casino's there.....LOL

Second......google G-20 summit ...up come UPMC
www.upmc.com ...

"An integrated global health enterprise"

UPMC IS the HQ for the media at this meeting.....

Third....see Medical Milestones.....home of Jonas Salk, organ transplants, and psychiatry, and swine flu researcher Don Burke
Fourth ....timing......at the very beginning of Flu season..

Question....is UPMC Media Center the transfer point into or out of
for weaponized swine flu vaccine through diplomatic pouches for a worldwide pandemic, or a 911 type biowarfare attack on the USA.

Keep in mind that a 1% reduction in the US population, (which 4% of the world utilizes 25% of the world's oil) could reduce the world oil consumption by 10%!!! This would setback the alt-energy field, and free up oil for the BRIC counties.

Also, if developed in a deep abandoned Pittsburgh coal mine, could be easily contained with a few explosives.

Also, a major supplier of the swine flu vaccine to the US, Novartis, is HQ in the same city as the BIS (Bank of International Settlements...
www.bis.org... )

Thoughts....we have motive, resources, and timing....

Please seriously consider this posting as we only have a week or so left to handle this....
.
First public posting of this on ATS....
eBolivar




reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 12:07 PM by beta.services
Since I cant yet create my own thread, i figured I should just tack this link on here.

The Therapeutic Goods Administration in Australia has stated that the swine flu vaccine that has been ordered is not yet deemed safe for children, and they will continue to test it for the next two months or so.

The Australian

SWINE flu is killing children at twice the rate of seasonal flu, but under-10s will have to wait at least two months for the vaccine that is soon to be offered to every Australian adult in the nation's biggest immunisation scheme.

Health Minister Nicola Roxon yesterday announced that the first swine flu jabs would be given to adults from September 30. Health workers, indigenous people, pregnant women and people with underlying medical conditions such as asthma, cancer, HIV, heart disease, diabetes, chronic kidney failure and obesity would be given priority.

The medical watchdog, the Therapeutic Goods Administration, has ruled that a single dose of the CSL vaccine for the H1N1 virus is safe and effective in preventing swine flu infections among adults.

But a vaccine for children will not be available until at least November. Clinical trials are now being carried out on 400 children nationally.


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