I Believe that if we do not exercise our freedom through the next series of elections we are going to be in a situation where physical or dis-obedient methods (law breaking) will become our only methods of maintaining freedoms

I am disturbed by much of what i read lately, from invasions of our privacy, street cams, computer prying, permanent database, destruction of many aspects of our constitution from The right to bear arms, freedom of speech, protection from search and seizure just to get started and most of all a constant invasion of our beliefs and thoughts and the manner as individuals we choose to live, think and pray.

I say in every election we start a movement to vote independent. We throw out both the Republicans and the Democrats at every level from local to state to federal

I don't want to see a revolution, I don't want to see America torn apart

It's not about who's the best candidate, It's not about experience

It's about freedom, it's about electing US the American people back into office without the system being destroyed, legally, as a UNITED STATES of AMERICA we USE the powers granted to us by the Law NOW before it is too late and dismiss both parties

I suggest we start a real conversation here about how to go about the process...

My initial at a glance thoughts

1: we vote ONLY Libertarian, Green or Constitutional or Independent parties as a method of removal of this infestation of bought and sold candidates

2: We examine any and all candidates and if they take CORPORATE or FOREIGN money for campaigns they get taken off our roster

3: They MUST support a removal of the lobbyist or some such system for controlling the capacity to BUY office and law

4: The must pledge to completely restore the constitution

It would be better to elect a person who runs a supermarket in NY than a Bloomberg

It would be better to elect as Governor a Man who has no political ties at all than what we mostly have now. It would be better to elect a complete AMERICAN that has never run for office than any bought in Senator with an agenda any day of the week... or anyone connected to political families or the Legal system or bureaucrat

5: They candidate must support our platform of Complete Transparency and disclosure with full knowledge failure to keep that promise will be called on for IMPEACHMENT

There need not be any terrible scenario as a people, We must end both parties reign, We have all the power, we still do. This needs to become a National discussion, this needs to be the real peaceful and legal Revolution

THE GREAT VOTE OUT

We end them, we knock them, Congress, Senate, State Govt Local Govt we knock them all out of office anyone with any affiliation to them we send packing over the next 4 years.

It's time to stop being Democrats and Republicans and time to be Americans

We can not be divided by pathetic issues by them anymore

Vote them all out

Share your ideas...

An impossible task but one that I support.

I think that the root of the problem with our current political system is money and greed. There should be strict rules in place to ensure that government employees can not make more than 2-3x the salary of the average American. How exactly are they supposed to represent the people if they can't relate to the people? If they view us as cattle, they will treat us as such.

Rules need to be in place that would monitor their assets to ensure that they aren't taking any form of gift from lobbyists. If they take so much as a free lunch, they should be thrown out of office. If a company gets caught bribing an elected official, they should face extremely stiff penalties.

There is no easy way to root out the corruption. If we ever want it to stop, something radical will have to be done. If we try to make subtle changes, they will simply respond with subtle changes to how they maintain their corruption.

They actually THINK we are too stupid to simply, legally and effectively dismiss them.

I don't think we are, We all talk about the horrible revolution, "over my dead body" "if they do this we will"

But the real Revolution is absolutely in our hands a simple and well spoken capacity to fire them all i 4 years none of them would be left in any office in the land... a REAL revolution a legal Revolution a true American Conspiracy to overthrow the conspirators

I think it's time we actually used the one power they simply can not take from us.

The solution is no corporate involvement in government PERIOD. Most of these guys are bought and paid for, it's frikin disgusting and no one seems to give a crap -they are more worried about what Kanye said.. Once that cancer is cutout then move to make any form of corruption in government a TREASONOUS act punishable by death. fixed.

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As much as I support the idea of promoting alteratives the cycle of "party dominance" is inevitable so the argument is a moot. Even if you were some how able to gain support for a third party, inevitably that party would become major and ofcourse there would be others railing against that party implementing it into another "two party system". The issue isnt the fact we have "two major parties", the issue is letting folks know there are always other choices. Somthing people readily forget.

SG

[edit on 15-9-2009 by Southern Guardian]

I have to say; it makes me wonder why people are not more into this particular thread.

Talk of prepping for violent revolution

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Legitimate discussion on actually using our still existing legal vote to open up several other parties and oust the traitors legally and with out conflict with our g-d and State given rights in a way no harm could possibly come

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Somewhere there is a major statement by results of my last 2 Threads in regards to the climate of the American people

S & F for you! I think this is a great idea, and the other ideas posted here as well. We need to get away from the "two-party" system that we have now. We also need to remove the ability for government officials to fill the office for years on end. This only gives them an opportunity to establish their corruption. I also believe that there should be a way to "fire" a public official, with a petition to vote said official out. The petition would have to have so many LEGIT signatures, and should be verified. Then the vote could be scheduled. This would be a great way to get politicians to start working for the people, rather than for themselves.

But before a "vote out" can be done, we need to convince the public that voting for the third party is not "throwing away your vote". Every time I vote third party, my friends, relatives, even my wife tell me that it's pointless, let's just get this guy out of office, or lets keep this gut from getting into office.

Something has got to be done. Violent revolution will not work without the needless slaughter of innocent people via a marshal law system. Large gatherings will sooner or later turn violent, the the military will be brought in.

I HATE that.... "your just wasting your vote"

How many of us actually have a belief system of how we see this world that is either Republican or Democrat.... are we really this non complex?

I can't believe that, not for a second...

It's utter apathy,

The problem is Not voting with your heart, the desire to be on a "winning team" and to conform your beliefs to the herd...

If people vited with HEART for real, the conservative party, the socialist party, the Green party and the Libertarian parties would ALL get 10x as many votes the senate and congress would be diverse and need to really discuss and debate our real issues and desires

The real copout is voteing not for what a person believes but rather voting by popularity of opinion....

You CAN never win, by voting along 2 party lines, you will never be represented by your real beliefs about how the system should work, it's compromise of spirit and intellect